1st Gen V.S. 2nd Gen

In need of opinions...
Refurb (from Apple) 1st Gen iPod Touch 8GB - $190.64
New 2nd Gen iPod Touch 8GB - $243.89
From what Ive seen, the differences are: Volume Buttons, Speaker, New Design, Genius
Do you think those differences are worth $50 more?? I know its early and no one has one...but Im just lookin for some thoughts.

I'd go for the new Gen2, but that is me. The one thing that has always drove me nuts with the current version is no speaker. There are times when I'd like to just check out a video or review something in the news where there is audio and I either have to go get earphones or plug it into a speaker system. That alone would be worth the difference.
I am honestly considering selling my current 32gb and buying one of the newer 32gb even if it cost me a little more. The sleek look is nice, but not worth the upgrade. I am still pondering my options, but would sure love to have that speaker! Wish I could hear one. I also really like the volume buttons along the side.
Everyone has different needs and wants so you'll have to decide based on that. If the speaker and volume controls aren't that worthy to you, then keep the refurb Gen1 and save your money.

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