2.16 or 2.33 17" MBP? A friend wants to know...

I recently bought the 2.33 17" Core 2 Duo MBP. A friend wants to buy one, but sees that the 2.16 Core Duo immediately earlier model is way cheaper - like $800 or more cheaper after all the dust settles, including bundle bargains with Parallels Desktop.
We know the newer model has:
* A newer processor version with a slightly higher speed
* An extra GB of RAM (worth maybe $150?)
* 40GB extra standard HD
She is wondering if the newer model has anything else valuable going for it that would make her go for the higher priced model.
I really couldn't say either way...
Any recommendations?
Thanks!
doug

The difference between the 2.16Ghz 15" and the 17" also includes the 2.33Ghz 15" & 17" having 256MB Graphics over 128Mb in the 2.16Ghz machine.
The 17" also has 8x Dual Layer DVD over 6x and a larger screen.
Having had the 15" 2.33 the speed of the machine was stunning, but there was the grainy display issue which rendered the unit virtually useless to me, so I returned it and upgraded to the 17" machine.
Much better screen, and not that much bigger than the 15".
So, if your friend is planning on doing any video intensive stuff, they may want to consider the extra VRAM in the 2.33Ghz machines, keep in mind graphics can't be upgraded easily at a later date. The extra 1Gb RAM may only be worth $150, but if you add that to the faster CPU and extra VRAM, the 15" 2.33 may be worth considering.

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panic(cpu 0 caller 0x001A4A55): Unresolved kernel trap (CPU 0, Type 14=page fault), registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x0000002b, CR3: 0x00e0b000, CR4: 0x000006e0
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0x14023a68 : 0x1a4a55 (0x3d24b8 0x0 0xe 0x3d1cdc)
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0x14023c48 : 0x3c1e04 (0x38d79c0 0x27dba00 0x0 0x3c205f)
0x14023c68 : 0x3c27fa (0x27dba00 0x0 0x0 0x0)
0x14023ca8 : 0x3c2867 (0x27dba00 0x38d71c0 0x2630b40 0x1628d8)
0x14023ce8 : 0x38759c (0x27d4340 0x0 0x14023d28 0x3c1f72)
0x14023d08 : 0x38adbb (0x27bd800 0x38d7180 0x0 0x27bd800)
0x14023d28 : 0x3b23a8 (0x27bd800 0x38d7180 0x14023d58 0x3bef49)
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0x14023df8 : 0x124b17 (0x3904e00 0x0 0x18 0x14023edc)
0x14023f08 : 0x195a42 (0x14023f44 0x0 0x0 0x0)
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Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.1: Wed May 23 16:33:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.22.5~1/RELEASE_I386
Tue Jul 10 21:58:37 2007
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001A4A55): Unresolved kernel trap (CPU 1, Type 14=page fault), registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x00000001, CR3: 0x00e0b000, CR4: 0x000006e0
EAX: 0x348c924b, EBX: 0x00000018, ECX: 0x00000001, EDX: 0x028ae100
CR2: 0x00000001, EBP: 0x13dd3c48, ESI: 0x00000003, EDI: 0x02b54ec4
EFL: 0x00010202, EIP: 0x028ae143, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00000010
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0x13dd3a18 : 0x128d08 (0x3cc0a4 0x13dd3a3c 0x131de5 0x0)
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0x13dd3c68 : 0x3c27fa (0x278fe00 0x0 0x0 0x0)
0x13dd3ca8 : 0x3c2867 (0x278fe00 0x3525ac0 0x36a40c0 0x1628d8)
0x13dd3ce8 : 0x38759c (0x279cfc0 0x0 0x13dd3d28 0x3c1f72)
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0x13dd3d78 : 0x188511 (0x278e600 0x34c97b4 0x34c97c8 0x11cc32)
0x13dd3db8 : 0x12b4c3 (0x36cbdb4 0x34c9798 0x0 0x0)
0x13dd3df8 : 0x124b17 (0x36cbd00 0x0 0x18 0x13dd3edc)
0x13dd3f08 : 0x195a42 (0x13dd3f44 0x0 0x0 0x0)
0x13dd3fc8 : 0x19b32e (0x2f82f80 0x0 0x19e0b5 0x2f82f80) No mapping exists for frame pointer
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Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.1: Wed May 23 16:33:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.22.5~1/RELEASE_I386

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We need to look at Thread 0 of the crash report.
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Not knowing all the details, the entire scenario raises some potential concerns and consideration.
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"For school, we are issued a Macbook and we will have to return it at the end of the year." What does that entail? Do you wipe the hard drive and then give it back to the school? Over the course of a semester or year, I would expect that you will be placing some rather confidential info on the system. I would not want to just hand this back to anyone without wiping the drive - the right way.
Also, then you get to your second year. What happens then - they give you a new one that also has to be turned back in? So what happens to all the files that you may want to keep throughout your education? Guessing maybe a backup would be a good idea - perhaps Time Machine.
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Hope this helps or at least gives you more to think about. Good luck in school.

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