2.6@3.4(northy) on a 865PE Neo2-v

Is running pretty good , i like this mobo very overclockable here is the cpuz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=95996
CAS on ram are (on mobo) 2.5-3-3-6 not like the cpuz have reported

Nope.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=528&kind=1

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Using 3 Memory modules on 865PE Neo2-V

Hi ! I wonder if it´s possible to install three 512MB DDR 400 sticks on a 865PE Neo2-V motherboard (As it has only 3 slots) Will it work as DDR, even if one channel has 1GB and the other 512MB ???
BTW, I´ve always used two 512 MB sticks on one channel (same color slots) Should I see any performance increase if I switch one stick to the other channel ? (one green and one purple)
Thanks for your help !!!

Quote from: Maesus on 23-February-06, 06:28:03
If you want dual channel performance, make sure you plug the DIMM at slot 1 and slot 3; or slot 2 and slot 4. If you have 3 DIMMs and plug them all, you will not have dual-channel performance but you have 512MB more RAM, which will definitely help to reduce the amount of transfer of virtual memory in your HDD and thus improve the overall performance.
So I understand that 1,5 GB of RAM on Single Channel will perform better than 1 GB on Dual Channel ?

New 865PE Neo2-P freezes

Hi all, thanks for any help in advance.
I'm putting together a new P4 system built around the 865PE Neo2-P motherboard.
Processor: P4 (prescott) 3.0 GHZ
Memory: 2x 256MB Corsair Value Select PC3200 (if you need the model #, ask)
Motherboard BIOS version: 3.A0
Hard Drive: WD 7200 RPM, 80 GB
Video card: old, generic PCI video card.
OS windows XP, no updates (no chance--see below)
The computer locks up predictably at several points.
When I do the INF update from the CD-ROM (it worked once or twice).
When I do the INF update through MSI's Live Update 3
Attempting to download WinXP features to enable Windows Update to do its job
It will occasionally lock up when working with start menu options.
It also locked several times while booting from the WinXP CD prior to installing XP.
Doing the INF update off the CD always brings up the System Properties window and if the system is going to lock, it seems to be locking while trying to bring up the window. I don't know if the Live Update 3 is doing the same thing or not. I never get far enough. The net card and AC 97 drivers installed fine. But then, they don't seem to make the system Properties Window come up either.
Windows Update: The computer downloads the Windows Update program itself just fine, but when I try to get the actual updates, it wants to get additional components. Once I click the button to tell it to go ahead, the computer locks.
Troubleshooting
Memory Swap:
I pulled memory from a functioning computer and replaced the Corsair chips. No change.
I reduced memory to one memory SIMM in one bank (bank 0) That got me thoughrough the INF update from the CD but ran aground on Windows Updste and Live Update 3.
BIOS: Is the current version according to MSI's website and Live Update 3.
Disabled L1, L2 caches on the Processor: slowed the computer to a crawl, but it had the same problem when it came to Live Update 3.
Processor Swap: I don't have another P4 to swap. Both my other machines are Athlons.

Sharp,
If I read my power supply right, it's rated for 15A on the +12V rail. Is 16A rock-bottom or recommended?
I have a working machine with a 400W power supply (17A on the +12V rail) and I connected the 400 to the computer. I'm still getting the same problems.
I downloaded memtest and put it on a floppy. It's been running for a solid hour now with no complaints.
When I was trying to get ahold of memtest, I surfed out to the memtest.org and tried to download without the benefit of your forum link. The machine froze after clicking on one of memtest's download links. I'm pretty sure it was the "precompiled package for floppy" link. It downloaded fine off your forum link however.
Any other ideas before I RMA this puppy?

865PE NEO2-FI2R + games = not good

I have a big problem with my new computer.
The system is working like a charm in Windows applications and when I'm working with video editing, however I cannot play any games because of the major stutter I get in all games. I cannot seem to find a fix for this problem :(
I have tried with BIOS 1.3 trough 1.5b2 and it only gets worse for every new BIOS I use, now I'm back at 1.3.
My system is:
865PE NEO2-FIS2R currently BIOS 1.3 and latest drivers
2 x 512Mb DDR-400 Apacer
1 x 80Gb S-ATA as system disk
2 x 160Gb S-ATA at RAID-0
ATI Radeon 9700 PRO with Catalyst 3.7
DirectX 9.0b
IDE Busmaster disabled in BIOS (enabled before, this was bad I heard?)
No overclocking (even tried overclock)
MAT at slow (tried every setting)
D.O.T at disabled (tried every setting)
PCI Latency at 32 (tried 64)
AGP aper. size at 128Mb (tried every setting)
using the built in audio chip (tried disabled)
Windows XP Pro SP1 with every update available.
FSAA off (tried every setting)
Aniso. filtering at 2x (tried every setting)
every other setting at "performance"
AGP 8x (tried 4x)
Fastwrites on (tried off)
My guess now is that when I had IDE Busmaster enabled and installed the Intel INF pack it installed a busmaster driver which was bad for the system. Could this be the case. I did a fresh install on the system two days ago but I didn't try any games until everything was installed, I didn't expect this to happen :(
The system isn't overheated because I'm using many big fans right now to make sure it isn't overheated.
I'm lost here, what do I do ? :/

It's really amazing how many quality component systems utilizing the 875/865 chipset(all mobo manufacturers-not MSI specific)have been brought down by an inadequate PSU. This is one component that can no longer be taken for granted. I'm no IRQ expert but it's funny how some systems work better with the onboard sound and others with a seperate soundcard. Also I have seen more USB problems with this chipset than any other. I jumped on this 875 chipset as soon as it came out(couldn't wait any longer to upgrade my old PIII - which I'm in the process of rejuvenating for my son)but I will certainly wait out all the bugs on the upcoming PCI Express platform.

865PE Neo2-PFISR failure

Hello,
This is my first post here so I would write down my system configuration at first:
my MSI mobo: 865PE Neo2-PFISR (with BIOS update to V3.A since 21/01/2005)
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 HT 2.8E SL79K
RAM: 2GB Kingston 400MHz DDR (4 x KVR400X64C3A/512)
Graphics Card (GPU): Club ATI 9600XT 256MB AGP 8x
2 SATA HDDs: 320GB + 160GB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm
3 IDEs: SONY DVD-ROM 16x, PLEXTOR CD-RW 52x, NEC DVD-RW DL 16x
Sound Card: TASCAM US-122 (External USB)
Power Supply (PSU): Seasonic S12+ 550W 80plus (+3,3V@24A, +5V@30A, +12V@18A, [email protected], +5Vsb@3A) http://www.seasonicusa.com/s12plus.htm
Monitor: EIZO L550 17" LCD with DVI cable connected
O/S: Dual boot on Kubuntu 7.10 and Windows XP (separately in each HDD)
using BIOS IDE setup: Native Mode configuration with S-ATA only, both P-ATA keep Enabled and no RAID which is the only configuration that my Linux installs or starts and USB Legacy Disable for starting a Windows XP installation otherwise it crashes after a CD-ROM boot in the first blue LOAD screen of the bootable Windows XP.
so I would like to discuss the failure problem that I have:
Sometimes I push the pc's power button to power on and the system gives power to the peripherals (CDs, HDDs, FANs, etc) but the screen does not open at all and the front HDD's orange led stays always ON still. The "D-Bracket 2" shows at once started 2 green leds (2nd and 3nd) and two yellow (?!?!?!) or 2 red (2nd and 3rd) and two yellow (?!?!?!). I'm surprised about the yellow!!! I tried out several setups after failure like: barebone, just the CPU installed with no memory, GPU or HDDs etc, another different type of PSU or unplugging any cable (from the USBs' or the D-Bracket's to the Power/HDD/Reset Leds and the FANs') but nothing changed at all. Finally if I "Clear CMOS" using the Jumper JBAT1 as the manual's information, everything goes well and the pc starts excellent again but then, in a random time after a power on or a restart it does the same failure. I do this post because this was happening really rarely in the past but now this is happening usually (once in a week I can say) with no hardware change since a while. Thank you in advance for your time and I will be thankful for any help.
I'm sorry for my bad English.
Greetings from Greece
Christos Kyrkilis

Quote from: Del UK on 07-February-08, 04:31:04
You have HSF that has retention socket with back plate
Have you done a strip and reassemble of this as yet..........
Could you please rephrase what you've posted cause my bad English couldn't help me understand what you mean. Sorry

865PE Neo2 -FIS2R Problems

I purchased a brand new MSI 865PE Neo2-FISR along with a P4 2.4C(OEM), a Thermaltake Spark 5c cooler and a Corsair XMS Twinpack(TWINX512-3200C2PT) of DDR400 memory.
The install went fine, the system booted and ran very well right out of the box. I installed the Live Update program from MSI and it updated itself. I then used that utility to generate a BIOS flash/recovery disk to update the bios from 1.10 to 1.30. The update worked fine and I rebooted the machine into Windows XP with no problems.
I then decided to do some tweaking in the new 1.3 BIOS. After several unsuccessful memory/Dynamic Overclocking settings the system refused to boot. I tried the Clear CMOS jumper to reset the defaults but it still would not boot. I checked the D-Bracket, 3 red 1 green(lower right) which indicates that the video card is not initializing. I attempted reseating the video card (a PNY Geforce4 TI4200) with no luck, I then replaced that card with a GeForce4 MX440 SE with no luck. I tried four other video cards, 2 AGP and 2 PCI, with no success.
At this point I pulled the board out of the system and let it sit with the battery out of the board hoping that the BIOS would reset to default values. I reinstalled the board with all the hardware and again the same D-Bracket error with no video generated. I tried different arrangements of memory using the new Corsairs and various other DDR333 & DDR266 again no luck.
What is going on with this thing? How could an errant timing change completely lock out the VGA card? And why can I not clear the settings to allow the card to initialize?
This thing is getting RMA'd soon if I can't find an answer.
Anyone have any ideas or similiar troubles? X(

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Originally posted by gary172
Another thing I don\'t understand about all the isses with BIOS 1.3, performance, RAM and timings etc, is - How can the 865PE Neo2 - FIS2R pretty much come out at the top of the heap in Tom\'s Hardware Test:
\"The board therefore achieves the best performance in the whole test field.\"
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030707/i875p-46.html
with MAT and DOT enabled, without any apparent negative reports of stability.
Is it that he used a Beta Bios: V1.3B3 (06/12/2003)
Or was his MSI board a \'pre-press release\' mobo similar to the ASUS board and the production versions we are buying are missing certain components?
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030603/865_PAT-06.html
Or did he have \'hand picked\' memory from Corsair \"2 x 256 MB, Corsair PC3200 TwinX\" and didn\'t report it?
There are a lot of reviews lately that have it as one of the fastest MB's around at the moment, here are a handful I found:
http://www.mbreview.com/neo2pe-10.php
http://www.thejemreport.com/reviews/865peneo2.htm
http://www.hardwarezone.com/article...&aid=795&page=1
http://www.hexus.net/review.php?review=564&page=1
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview....eid=1402&page=1
http://www.techview.nl/reviews/2959

865PE Neo2 FIS2R

Hello all. I've searched the forums and read alot of posts about my problem, but seem to be missing the information I am looking for. Let me tell you what is going on. I have the MSI 865PE Neo2 FIS2R mobo ver 1, P4 3.0 800FSB, 1 gig corsair twinx XMS 3200 CL2. My problem is when I try to use this RAM my system will not start. No Post, nothing and the D-bracket shows me memory error code. If I use a strip of crucial from my other PC everything works fine (the crucial is 333mhz at 512mb, cl3). I checked out the RAM compatability report on the MSI site and it was pretty confusing to me. I guess my question is, is my RAM compatible or is there a work around to using the XMS modules?
Other components are as follows:
ATI Radeon 9800XT (256)
48xCD-RW
80gig WD drive (PATA)
431w Enermax PSU
Thanks in advance for your help.

Hi Dink,
great to see someone who has the same config as I have.
My System:
865PE NEO2 FIS2R (Bios 1.8)
CORSAIR TWINX1024-3200C2PRO
ATI Radeon 9800XT
My system is running very stable with Ram-Settings at 2-3-3-6-8 in Turbo/Sergeant. Pls set your timings to these values. This should work.
Now a question to you. I have problems with the ATI 9800XT cards.
1) Do you also see stuttering or lags when running 3DMark2001SE? With ATI 9800XT Reference Cards I experience these lags also in the overlay mode and in Games when turning very fast (egoshooters). You can see what I mean when you install this little tool which changes the background of your WinXP desktop to a psychedelic wormhole: http://www.geisswerks.com/drempels/index.html
After you start this funny tool. Watch out for your desktop. If it isn't runnin 100% smooth you have the same problems as I have. The only 9800XT card which isn't causing this stuttering is the ASUS 9800XT. Could you pls. tell me if you also see these lags? You can increase the stuttering by copying some files from Dir1 to Dir2.
These lags have no impact of benchmark results!
2) Pls could you tell me what's the IRQ of your card? 16? Is it shared with the USB Controller?
3) Who is the manufacturer of your card? Ati itself or Hercules, HIS or Saphire??
If you cannot see this stuttering I would bet you have a ASUS.
Greets Digit
from Germany

865PE Neo2 -FIS2R POST problem

I'm having a problem with my newly built system and hoped that someone here might be able to help.
I am using the 865PE Neo2 -FIS2R motherboard with a 3.0Ghz P4 800Mhz FSB and a single 512MB Value Select Corsair RAM (DDR 3200, 200/400Mhz). The installed Video Card is a Leadtek Geforce3 Ti. There are no other expansion cards installed. There is no HDD.
When I power on my PC, I hear 2 short beeps, a pause, and then 8 short beeps. I'm also not getting any video. I looked up the beep codes on the AMI Bios web page. 2 beeps for video card issues and 8 beeps for memory issues.
I think the d-bracket is a great touch, so I check out its LED indicators. It shows the pattern denoting a memory issue. The only other RAM module I have laying around is a single generic PC 2100 266Mhz module. So, I pop it in. When I power on the system I get the same beep codes and LED configuration on the d-bracket.
Are the MSI Neo2 boards extremley picky about RAM? Should I be using two modules as per the RAM population table in the manual? Is there a recommended brand/model of RAM? Is there anything else I should be looking at as the cause?
I plan on picking up some different RAM modules over my lunch break today but before I did I wanted to check with those who know before I blow money on them.
Thanks for any help/advince.

KevinS,
Sad to say but there are some Corsair RAMs are known for instability problems with MSI mobos, especially the Low Latency RAM with the NEOs and NEO2s. That's why MSI has to test the RAMs to make sure that there is a list of confirmed and compatible RAMs for the mobo.
Pheng,
This AVATAR is better than the last one, at least it's not the 3X rated type... but I'll put an NC-16 PG for it hehehe... . Another thing is that I did not say that I hate the previous AVATAR at all... lol... Just feel that it is unsuitable for a tech forum where people from all over the world in all age and genders will be visting and viewing the threads. I hope you understand the suitation here .

[865PE/G Neo2 Series] DDR Memory with 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum

SYSTEM SPEC: 400w PSU, Pentium 4 3.2ghz 800mhz FSB (HT), Matrox Parhelia 128 8x AGP card, MSI Neo2 PFS Platinum motherboard.
Hi there. Im looking for some serious help with my computer. I have a MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum mobo and have been using 512mb DDR RAM with it- the ram is PC2700 (333mhz), non-ECC, ubuffered, non-parity, 184 pin. Now, I have just purchased a new DIMM. This one is
1gb PC3200 (400mhz), non-ECC, Unbuffered, non-parity, HIGH DENSITY- DUAL IN LINE, 128 x 64, 184 pin
It doesnt work and my system refuses to boot up. I checked out the specs of the 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum, and it says in the table that you can only use 400mhz DDR RAM with an 800mhz FSB processor (which I have). It says it supports 400mhz RAM, "DUAL CHANNEL", non-ECC, unbuffered memory, but no mention of "HIGH DENSITY" or "DUAL IN LINE". Is there a difference between "DUAL CHANNEL" and "DUAL IN-LINE". Also, does anyone know what the difference is between 128 x 4 and 128 x 64, they are both 1gb? SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!! I have seen some RAM from the same dealer which is not "HIGH DENSITY" and has the 128 x 4 configuration, and is still a 1gb module. Is that safe to buy? What RAM do I need (in detail) for my motherboard. Thanks!

Always useful with a complete systemspec.including PSU and biosversion, so please make one.
Can´t see anything wrong with the basic RAM specification - it also matches the MoBo basic specifications:
- Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 2.5V DDR SDRAM.
- Supports up to 4GB memory size without ECC.
- Supports Dual channel DDR266/333/400/433/466/500/533 MHz and up.
Have you tried removing the old RAM and booting only with the new 1GB stick alone ?
Using mixed RAM, sometimes works in "Single mode" (see mobo manual), but is not recommended.
Running Dual-channel ( 2x512 or 1024x2 ) is preferable and gives best performance, but then you need two identical sticks.
You may also need to increase RAM voltage some in bios (example 2.7v) to achieve best stability.
If you have some RAM compability issues with 1GB sticks - 2x512 RAM stick would be safer and give better performance, unless your aiming for more then 2GB in total.
You can also read about the RAM testreport here;
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6728v2.0/memory.pdf
About "Dual In line Memory Module" - I think it´s the long version for older DIMM description.
Just like "Double Data Rate" is the long version for DDR RAM.
DDR means Double Data Rate RAM (in opposition to the SDRAM or Single Data Rate). DDR RAM bends the transfer rate for clock cycle. It can go quicker because it executes 2 instructions for cycle of clock of the RAM instead of an only instruction like it is the case of the SDR.

[865PE NEO2 PFISR] Won't boot with added memory

Recently I upgraded a few items on my PC which has been running fine for 18 months or so. I changed out the video card and bought double the memory of the same brand and type it had in it. I went from 1gig (2 sticks) and added two more sticks. But now it won't boot. The power is on but no output whatsoever.
I RMA'd the memory thinking that might be the problem but it's the same with the new set. I tried all sorts of memory/slot combos. Basically, the new memory works fine if you swap it out in bank A with the old stuff. That's how it's running right now, so I know all of the sticks are good. I can take a third and put it in either slot bank B and it'll boot, but obviously not run properly. But any combination of these four sticks and the system won't boot!
Please help!
I'm running this system:
Win XP (SP1 I believe)
865PE NEO2 PFISR
P4/3.0CGHz, 800M 478P/512K HT
DDR Corsair 512MB X4 (400)
Dual 80gb samsung HDs running SATA
Sapphire X800GTO 256M video card
Antec Sonata case
TruePower 380Watt ATX12V

What brand, model, and speed are the RAM sticks. Did you check your Test Report booklet which came with the mobo. If you can't find it, you can go to the MSI website and look for your MOBO and get the test report that way. Some brands/models will that have been tested are shown in the report to be okay in all 4 slots, some only test okay in 2 or 3. Check this report and if it is one of the brands/model/speed tested you will see how it fared. It may well be you the MOBO doesn't like your RAM in 3 or 4 slots.
Maybe I missed it, but did you try each slot with only one stick at a time? You may also have a bad RAM slot.

865PE Neo2(6728) D-Bracket hangs at Memory Detection Test

This is terribly annoying... I just bought the mother board... Its a 865PE Neo2(6728)800mhzFSB the processor is P4 2.4ghz 800mhz, 512k l2-Cache. I dont know who made it like i know nothing about northwood or whatever, it says Intel on the box... I have 512MB of "Legacy Electronics" PC3200 64x64 DDR... I also just bought a NVdia G4 Ti-4200 64mb DDR 4x AGP made by Pixelview. I have a 160GB WD 8mb Cache 7200 HD... Ok the problem is when i go to boot up the computer, the VIDEO doesnt come on, and when i installed the "D-Bracket" the lights hang at 3 light, top right green all other red... Says in the manual that problem is memory detection test, testing onboard memory size, will hang if damaged or not installed properly. Ok. I have no idea how that wo;uld happen so, just to check i took out RAM, no dice, i changed video cards to MX440 G4, no dice, i tried disconnection the PCI slot which has the 160GB hard drive connected(why it needs this i dont know, according to WD WinXP needs...) none of this changes anything.. How do i check the onboard memory or could it be anything else? Ok thats all i have thanks for the help!!

Did you tried to boot up the system without the D-Bracket?
Yes it still does nothing, no video... Thats why i put in the D-Bracket. It doesnt sound like its going through the POST either.. I dont know if computers do that anymore thou;gh haha..
If you did, did you change to another piece of RAM to test?
I have no more DDR to put in, only SDRam and im sure that wont work.. I tried moving to different slots, 1 3 and 4 thinking maybe it was backwords i dunno... Didnt do anything, and you USED to be able to take the ram out and still boot into bios etc...
Did you change any settings in your BIOS?
I havent even gotten video, nada... Black screen.
What is the wattage of the PSU you are using now?
Where do i find the wattage? The watts on the case is uh... 350 or 400 one of the two... The case says USB Deluxe P4 Case... And the watts on the Power supply is 115 if thats what you were wondering... Hope that answer the question

865PE Neo2-FIS2R and Geil memory problem

With 512MB (2x256) of Corsair XMS 3700, the system is perfectly stable (runs 24/7 crunching for UD, also have done Prime95 torture test).
With 1-GB (2x512) of Geil PC4000 Ultra Platinum, the system is very unstable. It usually won't even boot fully into Windows without a BSOD (which vary) or if it does get into Windows it crashed soon thereafter.
If I put the Corsair memory back in (like I have them right now, to be able to use the system to post this message), the system is back to 100% stable, so it seems to be entirely a memory-related problem.
MSI 865PE Neo2-FIS2R (MS-6728)
Intel P4 2.4C 800FSB (HT enabled) @ 3.19-GHz
AVC Sunflower 2 HSF
420-W PS
Windows XP Pro SP1a
BIOS settings:
Dynamic OC Disabled
Performance mode Slow
DRAM Freq 266
CPU Bus 266
DDR Clock 354
AGP/PCI 67/34
CPU vCore 1.6000
DDR volts 2.70
AGP volts 1.50
SPD Disabled
3-4-4-8, 4 burst
Have run MemTest standard test on the Geil modules individually and as a pair, and have tried different slots. Testing thus far shows no errors when each module is installed separately, but when used in a pair there are sometimes errors shown.
Have tried the modules in slots 1,3 and slots 2,4 with no difference.
Have tried setting DDR voltage from 2.70 up to 2.85v for the Geil (approved up to 2.9v) with no apparent change in stability.
Have tried changing Spread Spectrum setting between enabled and disabled. Disabled seems to be better, but problem remains.
Have tried using SPD disabled with settings listed above, and SPD enabled (which sets timings at 2.5-4-4-8,8).
Edit: I'd asked for advice, but then realized that the very limited timeframe in which I could return the Geil would expire if I waited beyond business hours today. So I've RMA'd the Geil and have ordered a 1-GB Corsair TwinX XMS 3700 pack instead.

I've had similar problems to you but with Corsair TwinX LL's and if you read back a month in this forum you will see others have also with various memories on the 865 FISR.
The fix I found was Kingston memory but others have had problems with Kingston. There was a thread running a week or two ago attempting to document successful memory mobo combinations.
Bottom line, stick with what works on your mobo until MSI fix the incompatability/instability issues.

865PE NEO2 FSIR fails memory tests

This is the second MB that I've had this problem with, so something is causing them to fail. Here's the story:
New install, 865PE Neo2 FSIR + P4 2.6GHz 800MHz FSB, 2 x Crucial PC3200 256MB DDR, everything seems ok, XP installs with no problems.
About a month down the road I'm plagued by sudden reboots, Microsoft Error Reporting says RAM, says to DL and run it's DOS memory check utility. I get the utility, create bootable CD and run the utility, computer fails all RAM checks. I pull each RAM stick in turn and re-run the check with each stick separately, still fails all tests. Shortly after this, the board refuses to POST. Ship the board back to New Egg for replacement.
Installed replacement MB with 4 x 256MB Crucial PC3200, Microsoft DOS memory check program passes, no problems. About 2 weeks later I run into minor instability so I run the same memory check again, the board fails all tests????? I pull all Crucial memory sticks and put in a test stick of Corsair XMS 3200; same result, failure of all memory tests.
At this point, WinXP still runs, but this is the same pattern that the other board showed, right until it quit altogether.
It occurs to me that I DID flash BIOS to 1.9 between the time I first tested the RAM and got a pass and the time I tested and got a failure, could this be a coincidence? I can't remember if I updated the BIOS on the first board or not, so this may mean nothing.
System Specs:
MSI 865PE NEO2 FSIR
P4 2.6GHz, 800MHz FSB (all defaults, no overclock, Vantec HS)
Crucial CT3264Z40B.8T PC3200, CL3 256MB (2 Modules)
Crucial CT3264Z40B.8T2 PC 3200, CL3 256MB (2 Modules)
(Tested with same results with single Corsair CMX512-3200C2PT 512MB)
Antex True Power 430W PS
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro
All PCI slots open
Seagate 120GB System drive, 7,200RPM primary master
IBM 30GB drive, 7,200RPM primary slave
LiteOn DVD ROM secondary master
Sony CDRW secondary slave
2 x IBM 30GB drives on Promise PATA.
I know I'm probably gonna have to RMA this board, but I'd really like to know what is causing this so I can avoid it next time.
If anyone has any ideas I'd sure appreciate it.
Scott

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Originally posted by jwspicer
As they say - been there, done that. Always flash using DOS, and always keep backup, so I went back to the original BIOS for the board. No luck. Apparently once the screwup is done - it stays that way.
--BUT--
Suspect it is the reallocation for the P4 EE that is the issue. Reason is that Memtest86 has been running on that box for 9 hours now with NO error. However, it also shows only 104K of reserved memory. My other 865 board with onboard RAID (an ASUS P4P800 Deluxe) shows 687K reserved. So either the ASUS is wasting a lot of space, or the MIS is no longer correctly indicating the amount of memory reserved by the BIOS (including the Promise BIOS) at startup. Then Microsoft's utility is not correctly scanning. But Memtest, which probes for the "correct" setting, is. (The Memtest86 version is 3.0, and the test was done with the Promise enabled and drives attached (so the BIOS loads) and all the other setup was as it would be normally (standard IBOS options, etc.)
So who's right? And if MS' tool has the problem, does that indicate Windows XP reads memory the same way? Hmmm...
Hmm, I haven't tried reverting BIOS, but I'm typing this on the affected machine (which Memtest 86 says is fine) with only the two RAM chips it likes and so far no problems; I've run PCMark4 and 3DMark4 benchmarks all night and no problems, it was still happily churning away on 3DMark this morning. I guess either one of the Crucial sticks it doesn't like is bad or Crucial changed something in a revision to the chips it doesn't like.
Just a FYI, the Crucial sticks it DOESN'T like are CT3264Z40B.8T2
The sticks it DOES like (at slow or fast performance, forget about turbo or ultra turbo) are CT3264Z40B.8T
Both pairs are PC3200, CL3, 256MB DIMM's, single sided.
I think you're right about Microsoft's RAM tester being buggy, I can't believe ANYTHING could run if the RAM was actually giving the errors it shows, EVERY test shows things like "expected result 11111111 actual result ff1e0001" The Microsoft tester does run fine on the other 5 computers here; a mix of laptops and desktops; none using this board. It also ran on this board when it was installed, I guess the BIOS upgrade must be the cause.
Scott

865PE NEO2 FIS2R memory problem

I have this 865PE NEO2 FIS2R with a 3ghz northwood (512K cache, 800 fsb).
initially I bought a 1GB Geil PC3500 DDR dual channel kit. installed those into slot 1 and 3, installed windows...during install I would get blue screens. recently I bought a new PC-3700 DDR dual channel kit (industry standard generic stuff). I bought those cause the place I got it from claimed it works on the i875 NEO FIS2R. I figured if it works on the 875P, it should work on the 865PE. with the new memory I get blue screens a tad more often.
I tried both geil sticks again this time as single channel in slots 1 and 2 (Ch. A). I still got blue screens. I did the same with the new PC-3700 RAM, blue screens with that too.
I took those sticks out, and tried 1 Geil PC-3500 stick in slot 1, no blue screens.
Whats the deal here? shouldn't dual channel memory work as dual channel in a dual channel board? WHy can't I use 2 sticks of the same RAM in this board!
is it just incompatiable with geil dual channel? If so what about the PC-3700 RAM I tried as dual. I am thinking about trying a set of OCZ dual channel RAM, but I feel I already got $400 worth of RAM I can't use, I don't really want to waste another $200 if this is just a crappy board.
I'm thinking of just getting the new Asus with the SiS 655TX chipset, supposed to be faster anyway. 2 sticks of RAM would most likely work in that board.
I really don't want to spend anymore money on this though...I spent enough.
the specs:
P4 3ghz northwood
865PE NEO2 FIS2R (with updated 2.3 bios)
Chieftech 650 watt Power supply 36A, 36A, & 32A
BFG geforce FX 5900 Ultra 256MB (also tried an old geforce 2 mx 32MB)
memory tried: 1GB geil PC-3500 dual channel kit & 1GB generic dual channel kit
3com Network interface card
WD 120GB SE hard drive
Plextor 8X DVD-RW drive
Lite on 16X DVDROM drive

This problem is not yet solved....
I tried increasing the ram voltage to 2.8v, it ran fine for about 3 days...then boom..restart
I am seeing other people are having the same problem with these 865/875 boards.
after raising the ram voltage didn't work I tried unplugging all of my extra hard drives 1 by 1 with the memory set to 2.7v.
I am at the point where I have only my boot drive connected with the two DVD drives.
But I am still thinking its my power supply...that power supply caculator page says I need a 519 watt PS?? I have a true550 which is only 530 watt max.
If I do need to add 20% to the power calculated, I would need a 622 watt PS???
I am running speedfan now....how low is the voltages ok to drop to?
the +12 dropped to 11.19, max is 11.80
the rest of the voltages are staying more or less constant .
Oh yea, on occasion the nb fan stops, I get a warning in corecenter saying 0 RPMs.
Also I can't set the fans to high speed, 6000RPM for the nb, and 5000RPM for the CPU.
If I set corecenter to user, and move the slide up to 8, the max is only 3375RPM for the CPU and 3750RPM for the NB fan.
Also every once in awhile the power LED on my case will go out while the system is running.
But thats been doing that for awhile now!
I'm thinking I will connect up my other hard drives again and run this speed fan program again.
update:
I reconnected my drives, ran speed fan, noticed it stops responding after 10 min...I get an error saying smbus cannot be scanned...or something like that.
Also I've got errors when downloading saying I have no ports available. it sounds like the bus is shutting down??
This is not the only MSI 865PE NEO2 FIS2R I have ran into problems with
it looks like I will be getting a new board next week....either an Asus or Abit.

865PE Neo2-FIS2R, memory question!

Hi!
I´m thinking of buying memory for the 865PE Neo2-FIS2R mother board and have a few doubts that are on my mind.
1. If I want to use DualMode memory, should I use 256+256 or 512+512.
Lets assume that I buy 2x 256MB and uses them as DualMode.
Can I later put another 2 x 256MB into the computer and use them all as DualMode, (256+256+256+256) or is only possible to use 2 of each size.
Maybee I should buy 1x of 512MB and use it as SingeMode and later complement with another 512 and use them as DualMode.
hmmmmm.......any point of views?
The memory I´m talking about is:
Corsair CMX256A-3500C2 256Mb DDR PC3500 CAS2 434MHz
Corsair CMX512-3500C2 512Mb DDR PC3500 CAS2 434MHz
I assume that they are the same as MSI has in its
"DDR400 Memory Modules Qualified Vender List " and should work just fine with the motherboard.
Regards
WiGGoW

I would not go with that brand of ram. There are alot of issues being talked about involving that ram in this forum. I recommend Kingston and so does MSI. Keep in mind to obtain Ultr-Turbo in Bios you need to buy a latency of 2 or you will get an error message and your bios will reset to slow.

2.6@3.4(northy) on a 865PE Neo2-v

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