2 business areas for same accouting doument

Hi,
We have released the Accounting document and we have seen that 2 business area assigned for same accounting document.
Customer line item has one business area
Remaining GL account has one business area.
One thing I need to understand that how customer line item has different business area from the remaining line items.
How business area will determine for the customer line item.
Thanks,
Venkata harish.

harish venkat,
Your business area may come from manual input or substitution rule. You have to check your business area purpose. If you are looking for a balance sheet report this isn't the best solution because you won't close your balance.
regards

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