2 Form scenarios in HCM Processes and Forms

Hi,
My requirement is to have 2 forms in a single process. The first part has a form and an approval,after certain approval stage the form should be a different one. I found out that 2 form scenario can be used in a single HCM Process, But I am not sure how? Please share how to do it.
Thanks,
Sri

Hi Ramesh,
Hope this is not too late to help.
Do_operation will be called whenever there is roundtrip, by triggering event USER_EVENT_CHECK using form scripting.
example,
To trigger roundtrip for a drop down list, under exit* event add this
xfa.record.CONTROL_PARAM.ISR_EVENT.value = "USER_EVENT_CHECK";
ContainerFoundation_JS.SendMessageToContainer(event.target, "submit", "", "", "", "");
regards,
Xiang Li

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