2 hour AVCHD on DVD

I have a 2 hour performance shot AVCHD and I am trying to put it on a DVD. I am converting to mgeg2 dvd and using draft quality but it still comes out 4410 meg... too big.
What should I do next to widdle down the size.
Thanks!

What is the Bit-Rate of that "draft quality" MPEG-2 Export?
For down-rezzing HD to SD, Jeff Bellune's TUTORIAL might help get the highest quality, and also give you tips on fitting that MPEG-2 onto a DVD-5. Two hours should fit fine, with good quality.
Good luck,
Hunt

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AVCHD to DVD revisited

I am shooting 1080i 29.97 AVCHD footage using the Sony NX5U. I have followed the advice in this video for converting the footage to MPEG-2 for DVD authoring, but I'm not happy with the results:
http://bellunevideo.com/tutvideo.php?tutid=10
Has anyone come up with a different way of going from AVCHD to DVD that works beter than this?
(I'm not criticizing Jeff Bellune's video. I appreciate that he took the time to make the tutorial, and this may in fact be the best that can be done)
J. D.

"Also, I'm curious - how were you viewing the MPEG2 DVD results when you decided the quality wasn't good enough?"
Funny you should ask this. I was planning on waiting until tomorrow to respond to most of these suggestions because I am starting to wonder if it's my television that is the problem. I am authoring a DVD with the Mpeg2 DVD file in Encore CS5, then burning the DVD and viewing it on a Viewsonic 20" widescreen TV from an upconverting DVD player with an HDMI cable (I've tried two different models of player). I've already discovered that unless the sharpening on this TV is set to absolute minimum, the sharpening artifacts are very noticeable. Even after this adjustment, I still see a thin halo around people with light-colored clothing against a dark background. Also, the video is of a children's dance recital (yeah, I get the big time gigs, don't I), so there are a lot of artifacts when there is a lot of motion. I've tried playing the footage straight from the camera to the TV via HDMI, and I don't see any of these problems.
I'm going to take my DVD home tonight and watch on a different widescreen TV. I'll let you all know tomorrow if I see the same issues or not.
"If you want to try Pr again, make sure Use Maximum Render Quality is checked in the Export Settings dialog."
Interetsingly, the Premiere manual reads "Maximum Render Quality often makes highly compressed image formats, or those containing compression artifacts, look worse because of sharpening." I've been using MRQ, but since AVCHD is a highly compressed format, maybe this shouldn't be used? I tried converting a bit without MRQ checked, and it didn't seem to make much of a difference.
J. D.

5 hours on one DVD

For what it is worth (Maybe I should have started a new post).
I had a client that just wanted the five hours of mini DV just to have as a record of the their wedding. Not interested in editing. So after captureing in PP2 I then went into Encore 2.o and put them on the timeline and just burned the DVD. No graphics, chapters or anything. When put into a set top dvd player one had "pretend" there were chapters and click on the remote "Chapter" button.
I let Encore fit the five hours on the DVD.
What surprised me was that not only did I get five hours on a single layer DVD-R, but that the quality was very good on my 35inch tv in the family room.
5 hours and good quality.
Now I my next test is to do a very simple title and five chapters labled only as to "tape one of five" and so on.
Yours,
Tom

5 hours.
This = 300 Minutes, = 18,000 seconds.
Available space on a DVD5 - 4,700,000,000*8 = 37,600,000,000 /1,000,000 = 37,600 Megabits of total space available.
Lose 4% overhead = 36,000 approx.
Audio.
Assuming Dolby Digital at 0.192 Mbits/second.
= 3,456 Megabits.
Subtract this from the total gives us a remainder of 32,544 Megabits.
32554 / 18,000 = 1.805 Megabits of actual Video Bitrate.
It is going to look appalling.
You must override to a CBR encode, and hope like heck the built-in transcoder will even allow such a painfully low bitrate to encode.
Quality is going to be worse than a cross of telephone camera footage encoded to Flash & uploaded to YouTube.
It will make that look like high quality.
Why bother?
You're throwing out so much quality it will be completely unwatchable.

2 hours of video footage vs. 1 hour with Encore DVD 2.0

I am capturing video footage (from 8mm tape and VHS) via Adobe Premiere Pro then importing the avi file into Encore DVD. I transcode the avi with the Automatic setting in Encore and then build my DVD. My question is this: Is it better to build DVD's with one hour of footage as opposed to two hours? Is the quality of the video compromised when building a DVD with two hours of footage?
Thanks so much,
Angela

Inside the computer ALL source is digital... The key here is the subject matter
If you have a subject with little or no movement (a group sitting at a table having a talk) you could problem get 2-3 hours on a DVD and not notice any quality loss
If you are recording a soccer match with lots of action, fitting more than one hour on a DVD is very likely going to result in "motion artifacts" due to the compression
As I said before... there are many variables that control quality
The best way for you to find out with your source material... test

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Just wondering if anyone has for download or can share some templates or settings that I can use to create a One Stop Encode that will suit both AVCHD HD DVD Disc and be good as a Computer MP4 File for PC and Android Mobile Playback and maybe even good enough for Full Bluray Mastering.
Currently I am using mostly HDV 50i Material with a bit of 1080 30p and Mobile phone type MP4 files thrown in.
I typically Encode to for DVD SD and HD BD. However I would like to be able to take advantage of putting some of the short HD Video to AVCHD DVD-R Discs.
I understand that the maximum bit rate is gonna be 18mbs? for AVCHD on DVD but am unsure what Profile settings I need to be compliant and as I say if create a good one MP4 that will be good for all formats
whether it be AVCHD DVD, Blu-ray Disc and good for YouTube uploading with possibility of compatibility with some of the Android Mobile Phones and Tablets.
Thanks in Advance
Phil

shooternz wrote:
Here is the solution: Slow down. Give your project some love. Smell the roses.
Agreed about the roses but alas my next project always calls. Actually, I think what happens is I give each project SO much love that when it comes to exporting, I've run out of time.
shooternz wrote:
Then it would not be a default...it would be an option and you already have that option.
Semantics aside, I would love to be able to have it at least default to whatever option was last chosen. Or, perhaps I shouldn't use the word default again...I'd love it to simply remember my preferred setting. That's all.

Pre12 – unable to burn AVCHD to DVD media

I'm using Pre 12 with Windows 8, editing AVCHD video, and want to burn AVCHD to DVD disk media (to play on a Blu-ray player). However, whenever I try Pre12 shows “media not present” as status, despite having a blank DVD in the drive. But, simply changing from AVCHD to DVD works fine.
Some background: I’ve been a Premiere Elements user since V1 and after purchasing a HD camera several years ago I’ve burned many short HD videos on DVD media s using Pre 10 and 11 AVCHD format option. However, that was before converting to a new computer and installing Pre12.
My new computer is a Dell XPS 8700, Win dows 8 64 bit, with an internal Blu-ray Combo Drive (Reads BD and Writes to DVD/CD). The drive shows in Windows Devices as “HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD CH20N”. It claims to read and write DVD media in either the plus or minus types. I’ve been using TDK single side DVD + media. I've reported the problem to Dell Technical Support without success.
So, I don’t know if the problem is with my hardware, media, or a bug in Pre12, and would greatly appreciate advice.
Thanks in advance

1. Yes, HD or SD video will burn (in DVD format) to DVD media on either internal or external optical drive. The reinstall of Pre 12.0 solved that problem.
2. There was no change to results when attempting to burn AVCHD to DVD media. The internal optical drive continues to show "media not present", while the external drive shows "ready"
3. There was no change to results when burning to Blu-ray which continutes to operate correctly - the external drive shows "ready" (and burns are still successful). Note that the internal drive can only write DVD media so isn't shown by Pre 12 for this task.
Below is revised table of results:
Source Video
SD
SD
SD
HD
HD
HD
Task:
Burn DVD
Burn AVCHD (to DVD media)
Burn Blu-ray (to Blu-ray Media)
Burn DVD
Burn AVCHD (to DVD media)
Burn Blu-ray (to Blu-ray Media)
Status/Result
Optical Drive E:
Internal DVD Writer
Ready
Media not present
Burner loacation N/A
Ready
Media not present
Burner loacation N/A
Optical Drive F:
External USB 3 Blu-ray Writer
Ready
Ready
Incompatible disc (with DVD media), Ready with Blu-ray media)
Ready
Ready
Ready
So, ok to uninstall and reinstall Windows driver for internal burner?
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AVCHD to DVD

I have hours of footage to edit in .MTS format (1440x1080, 1.3333 PAR, 29.97 fps), and I figure since I will be burning the end resut to a DVD anyway, it would make sense to decompress all my raw footage into something a little less taxing on my hardware before I start editing it. My head is spinning after reading through the forums on editing AVCHD files and I'm overwhelmed by all of the video encoding options available. I'm thinking Adobe Media Encoder should do the trick (I'm running CS4 on a mac), but which format should I choose?
My inital thought was MPEG-2 DVD (duh), but that separates the audio out and I don't want to deal with linking the audio back up every time I need a segment from that clip. Plus I can't believe that is the same quality of a DVD - it seems so bad compared to the 1080 footage!
I also thought Quicktime (NTSC DV Widescreen) would be a good option, but it seems like even lower quality than the MPEG2 for 6 times the file size.
If anyone knows of a good resource to learn about the myriad of video file formats, I would love to try and understand the differences.

iDVD does not author Blu Ray discs...besides the S300 apparently does not play back BD-R discs. See the threads below:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1073231&tstart=0
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Layer break solution for a single 2 hour continuous timeline (DVD-9 DL) in GEAR?

Having a single 2 hour continuous timeline in Encore project. When the project is exported there isn't any non-seamless cells in the layer break window that GEAR is providing. According to DVD specification the layer break should be set to a non-seamless cell. So, how to properly set the layer break when there is no legal layer break cells in the layer break window?
The only solution I know is using PGCEDit to change one cell's type to non-seamless and use this as the layer break cell. In PGCEDit you double click the VTST and see all the cells. Pick one cell (that exists in the layer break window calculated in GEAR LB spreadsheet) and de-tick the "seamless joint" checkbox of the cell you want to use as the LB cell, then choose OK to exit the VTST panel. Save your DVD (remember to have at the Options -> Output -> leave 32k of space, selected when saving). Now you have a dvd standard non-seamless cell for the layer break.
Couple of questions rise:
Is this 100% legal and risk free to change the cell type like this or is there something more to it? Do you also have to uncheck from the cell's "Flag type panel" in PGCEdit the "seamless angle change" and the rest of the flags in order for this to work the way fully intended?
Has anybody done this in a situation like this for a commercial title?
Is there any other way to achieve a legal LB for a one long continuous timeline without non-seamless cells existing?
PS. I have also a one cell just outside the layer break window that GEAR is providing me, alraedy marked as a non-seamless cell. I can't use this cell in GEAR though as a layer break cell as this cell is outside the layer break window. Any ideas why Encore has outputted this cell as non-seamless? maybe it comes from the Automatic layer break setting in the Encore's BUILD panel when you output a folder? Even though when you export as a Folder, it shouldn't set actual layer break to it, but maybe it still sets the intended LB cell's type to non-seamless? Is there any way to get GEAR to respect the layer break that Encore has automatically set if you export your project as image from Encore (and I guess when the project is build as an image, the layer break actually should be set there, right?).

Try to convert the audio to AC3 file, that should be a quick fix.
Do you have motion menus or any other elements? 2.96 and 928 should bring you in fine (take a look here http://dvdstepbystep.com/faqs_2.php - which way are the numbers - the larger or smaller when using Get Info?)

How to fit 4 1/2 hours onto a DVD

OK i dont get it. Because It says that a standard DVD fits 4.7 GBs on a DVD. So when I finished my project with FCP. I exported using QT conversion. I exported my file as an MP4 using H.264. and got my 4 1/2 hour project down to 2.4 GBs. But when I tried to import it to DVDSP it said incompatible format...
What is the best way to fit my 4 1/2 hour video onto a DVDSP project without losing a lot of quality...

I just dont understand that if I can get the files to under 3 GBs why they wont fit on a single layer DVD
I think you may be missing the basic element here. The DVD-Video specification was established so that DVD-Video discs would be properly recognized and play in DVD players from any manufacturer. But in order for that to happen, the files on the DVD MUST comply with the DVD-Video specification. That spec requires specially formatted, MPEG-2 video and multiplexed with either AIFF (PCM) or AC3 (Dolby Digital) audio in the form of VOB files.
It wouldn't matter if your file had the size of only 2mb. If it isn't in the right format, it won't work. Essentially, it isn't the size that matters in this case; it the file format you provide to DVD-SP.
When you exported your movie using QuickTime Conversion, it doesn't matter what the resulting file size is ... because you chose MPEG-4 (h.264) and that doesn't meet the DVD-Video specification, nor does it meet the requirements of DVD-SP for encoding.
That's what Compressor is for. You simply export from FCP "Using Compressor" and choose the appropriate DVD preset. In your case, you'd have to modify a preset to meet the bit rate requirements for a program the length of yours ... or use a dual layer disc as has already been suggested.
You can also export a reference or self-contained movie form FCP and use the resulting file in Compressor or import it directly into DVD-SP and let it do the encoding. However, using Compressor will allow you much more control.
-DH
ps: a single layer DVD disc (DVD-5) only has about 4.3gb of usable space even though the discs are rated at 4.7gb.

AVCHD to DVD: How to export using FCE

I've been using AVCHD for two years now. But when I burn it using the DV format the video thus not look the same from the AVCHD. What would be the best setting to use... Thanks in advance.

Funny thing happened I edited some HDef footage about 1.5 hours worth. I exported it as a QT file into my movies folder. Proceeded to open iDVD and the QT file was not available to import. Noticed QT file was 35gb. Is that why iDVD would not import? I cut a small piece about 1 min and exported it as a QT file and iDVD accepted it.
Is there a work around in FCx that would enable me to export a smaller file to work in iDVD?
I am so sorry for the explanation..I'm a Mac Newbe. Trial and error is taking sooooo much time....

AVCHD to DVD: Export Options?

Hi
I'm currently editing a school show in FCE, shot on a multi-cam, AVCHD camcorder set-up. I'm editing the files in native format because a few copies on Blu-Ray will be needed. My problem is this; what export settings do I need to apply to the finished edit to optimise it for DVD burning, as 95% of required copies are on this format? I've tried the standard Export/Quicktime Movie option, and whereas I can burn lovely, pristine Blu-Ray copies from this file, (using Toast 10 Titanium), when I try to burn the file as a DVD, (using Toast's DVD burn option), the disc when viewed is of a pretty low quality and horribly interlaced on anything that moves even slightly. I'v tried customising the settings in Toast, specifically selecting "progressive" in the "Field Dominance" option, but the burn still looks crap!
I'm wondering whether my problem starts within Final Cut Express somewhere. If so, what is the optimum export setting with a view to creating decent-looking DVDs?
Thanks

The mismatch is probably the root cause of the problem. You are in a PAL country; if you shot 1080i50 then you should be using a matching Easy Setup in FCE, not 1080i60. I don't know how this would affect bluray, but it would cause issues for standard def.
Try this -
Make a backup copy of your FCE project file. +(Very important. Don't skip this. Always make a backup before experimenting.)+
Then, control-click your sequence in the FCE Browser. In the window that opens, click Settings. In the next window click Load Sequence Preset. Select AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1920x1080i50. This will change your sequence to 1080i50.
Then export to QT Movie; import into iDVD or Toast and burn a DVD. You may want to try this with a short video segment first just to see what the results may be.

Workflow - AVCHD to DVD but without optimised footage?

I am an enthusiast and I have a few Panasonic prosumer camcorders with which I shoot basic AVCHD and ultimately I burn DVDs - which people tell me look just fine.
When importing I have “Leave files in place” checked and I create Proxy files ONLY as obviously these work best for multicam editing. I used to create optimised files too (someone told me I should) but they don’t seem to do anything for me - am I wrong?
After editing, I click on Share to create a 'Master File' from which I go on to author the DVD iso. I leave the 'Media' on 'Proxy’ (is there any reason to ever change that?) and all by itself I get a file with the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 1920 x 1080
Codecs: Apple ProRes 422, Linear PCM, Timecode
Color profile: HD (1-1-1)
I’m very happy with that but my question is: should I be creating optimised files too? If so, WHERE in my workflow would they come into play?
Many thanks in advance!

Sounds right to me.
AVCHD should work fine in up to date date Macs.
Using Proxy (without switching) in the Timeline will give you a sub-standard DVD as that will be the size of the export.
Roughly 30% of original.
Al

Fitting four hours onto a DVD?

Hello all.
Is there any way using Compressor to fit four hours of video onto a DVD?
When i try to compress, it gives me a maximum amount of something lie 174 minutes at a CBR of 2.
Any advice?
Thanks.

I created a custom compression setting that allowed me to get 4 hours onto a single DVD5 (the 4.7gig single layer DVDs). However, the footage looked absolutely terrible.
It is much better to go with the 150 Min compression and put it on a Dual Layer DVD (DVD9: 8.5gigs of space).
Hope that helps!
~Luke

Opinion sought on burning AVCHD to DVD

I just completed my first 95 minute FCE movie in AVCHD only to be unpleasantly surprised to find that iDVD either does not support it, or does a very poor job on the material. So I read, for I have not tried it. For many reasons, I would like to commit my movie to DVDs.
Most posts I read recommend I buy Roxio and convert my movie to Blu-Ray. I don't mind buying Roxio, but I have no wish to buy a Blu-Ray player and then suggest to family and friends that they do the same in order to watch my masterpieces. Especially since I hear everywhere, some comments dating back to 2008, that Blu-Ray is dying. Certainly my local store, which used to have floor to ceiling Blu Ray equipment, has nary a Blu Ray in sight.
One post led me to Daniusoft, and they claim that a few easy steps will turn my AVCHD into a DVD I can be proud of. Have any of our experts had experience with these good people, or can you recommend some-one reliable who has similar software?
I would appreciate a life line. Thanks.

>As to your first paragraph, is that something that Daniusoft or Roxio can do for me?
Not sure what you're asking. I'm not at all familiar with Daniusoft, but Roxio's Toast application is great utility for burning all types of discs; Blu-ray, DVD, CD ... and even for creating disc images.
If you're referring to my comment about some DVD players having the ability to upscale, that isn't done with software, it's a task of the DVD player.
>I notice that the DVDs I receive from NetFlix have no Blu-Ray or similar appellation on them, nor do I have anything special in the way of a DVD player, but the pictures are as sharp as a celluloid collar.
Commercial releases are produced using top-of-the-line equipment with great lighting. Good lighting and a good lens are the keys to getting the best quality image. If you start with an excellent image you're going to end up with a better than what consumer/prosumer or even typical broadcast gear can achieve. Plus, when they encode and compress for DVD, they utilize very high end hardware encoders that do a much better job of compression than is available to the casual user. And those discs are duplicated (stamped) instead of replicated (burned).
-DH

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