2 logic questions

hi all.
1-in the technoir (pretty sure) preset in ultrabeat, the right side of the keyboard is a deep synth base. I was trying to find as close as possible a preset in one of the true synths, like sculpture or ES1/2 etc.
Does anyone know of a preset in any of the other logic synths that can be substituted for the ultrabeat one, as it is more limited (only maybe 24 notes across) than a preset would be in one of the regular synths?
2-I loaded a General Midi song from the web, and logic mapped all of the instruments correctly in EXS24 by itself. I have been using logic a long time - 12 years, and I had always had to keep a GM outboard module to hear Gen Midi songs, manually selecting each instrument in most cases. Logic appears to be able to do so on its own - is this something new for Logic 8? It certainly wasn't there in version 7. If so, it is quite an awesome feature, as I can now get rid of my JV-1010, for which playing GM songs was its only purpose...

Does anyone know of a preset in any of the other logic synths that can be
substituted for the ultrabeat one, as it is more limited (only maybe 24 notes
across) than a preset would be in one of the regular synths?
Dunno about that particular sound but none of the other synths have the exact synthesiser engine that Ultrabeat has, so although you copy recreate it by copying the synthesis parameters, without looking at the particular patch I can't say how accurate you could be.
You could always use a second instance of Ultrabeat and change the tuning of that voice to give you higher or lower notes.
is this something new for Logic 8? It certainly wasn't there in version 7.
Yes, Logic 8 changes the way midifiles are imported, and it's documented in the manual.

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A few simple Logic questions...please help.

I have a few probably simple Logic questions, that are nonetheless frustrating me, wondering if someone could help me out.
1. I run Logic 8, all of the sounds that came with logic seem to work except organ sounds. I can't trigger any organ sounds (MIDI) on Logic, they won't play. I have a Yamaha Motif as my midi controller.
Any idea why?
2. I've starting running into a situation where I will record a MIDI track, the notes are recorded but they won't playback. The only track effected is the one that was just recorded. All other midi tracks playback.
I have to cut the track, usually go out of Logic and back in, re record for it to playback properly. Any idea why this may be happening?
3. How important is it to update to Logic 9. Are there any disadvantages down the road if I don't upgrade. If I purchase the $200 upgrade, do I get a package of discs and material, or it just a web download.
Any help is appreciated!
Colin

seeren wrote:
Data Stream Studio wrote:
3) You get a full set of disks and manuals.
They're including manuals now?
I think his referring to the booklets ...on how to install etc
It would be great to see printed manuals though ...I love books especially Logic/Audio related !!
A

A few protools to logic questions.

Hello.
long time protools user and returning logic user (version 3.x was the last interaction)
am really enjoying the sequencing aspects to logic but am becoming increasingly frustrated by what seems to be a few really simple features but constantly used features of protools.
hopefully someone might be able to point me in the right direction.
they all have to do with audio editing.
1) selection snapping to timeline. i have found the marquee tool, but how do then snap the playhead to where i want to place the copied selection?
2) duplicating a region on the time line creates a second instance of the region, however its the same instance.. thus any editing will occur to all regions. is there was a way to default this to automatically create new regions (as in protools, well in protools it creates a new region once edited).
3) another question on snapping.. in the main timeline you can select snap to bar.. but is there way to snap to smaller transients than a whole bar? i know you can set that in piano roll.. but what about for either the sample editor or the main timeline?
these are all key features which are used constantly in protools.. and before i get a barrage of responses, i know logic isnt protools.. but some of these features i have mentioned are present across most if not all audio editing applications (cubase, live and even fruity loops)
i would really like to cross back to logic, but i need to be able to perform the same basic tasks..
help me obiwan..
tom

Not sure about question 1, mainly because I have always just manually moved regions where I wanted them. But because of the answer to question #3, it's never been an issue for me.
If you click and hold on the "Snap" menu (upper right hand corner of the Arrange page), you'll see a drop down list of options, which include, bar, beat, division, ticks, frames, etc... this helps limit where the region will land while dragging. I personally leave it set to "smart", which, depending on zoom level, allows me to place regions exactly where I want, very quickly.
My "nudge" key commands also help in certain circumstances.
As far as duplicating a region, yes, you are merely copying the region, but it's still referencing the same audio file, so any edits done on one will affect all copies.
After option/dragging a region, if you want to edit it, and ONLY that particular copy, simply go under the audio menu, and select "Convert Regions to New Audio Files". This can be assigned a key command, so it can be a pretty instantaneous thing. Now it's a separate audio file, and any edits done to it won't happen on the original.
Hope some of that helps...

Model Object / Business Logic question

Hello,
Question about how to architect the model objects and services in our system. We are defining our own Model Object / Transfer Objects without the use of an ORM tool (long story). Some of these model objects have to maintain Association objects such as:
public class Teacher {
     private List<StudentAssociation> kids;
public class StudentAssociation {
     private Teacher teacher;
     private Student student;
     private Date fromDate;
     private Date toDate;
     // Getters / Setters ....
}My question is, where should the logic be to add, remove student associations? Originally we had it defined in the Teacher model object with:
public void addStudentAssociation(Student student, Date fromDate, Date toDate);
public void removeStudentAssociation(Student student, Date fromDate, Date toDate);But I am hesitant to put such logic in the Model Object. I always thought those should be pretty empty of any sort of business logic. Instead I want to have a TeacherService that does that and instead just a getter/setter on the Teacher object for the Association List. However, in doing that, I find I have to create a new List of Associations then call the setAssociations method on the Teacher object, which seems kind of strange.
Is it bad to put the add/remove method in the model object itself? The remove logic has a bit of business logic in it, so it seems weird being there.

Not sure I can be of much help, but here's my two cents worth:
You have a teacher object and student object. A teacher doesnt really have an association with a student. I think you need another object such as a class object. I class has a teacher and the students (an association can be a business association, social association, etc). That same teacher may be assigned to other classes (provided they dont occur at the same time since the teacher cant be in the two classes at the same time. Likewise, for a student. Complicating things is the fact that a teacher of one class may be a student in another class. Also, a class may exist that has students but no assigned teacher yet (your original idea wouldn't be able to handle this since you will need a teacher before you add students). Another case, you have a class without students. Still another case, you have people (either future students, or teaching staff that haven't been assigned as teachers yet), but no classes yet., I think it would be best to figure out a database schema first (you can use Oracle Lite, MySql, etc).
here is an example:
Assuming you are putting this in a database I would create tables and fields something like this:
Person ((a person is either a student or teacher, or just someone that is no longer a student or teacher but may be one day))
personId not null
firstname not null
middleName nullable
lastname not null
ssn not null
Class ( a class is where a teacher teaches students))
classId not null
nameOfCourse not null
building nullable (may not be assigned yet)
room nullable (may not be assigned yet)
startDate ((when the class starts)) nullable
endDate ((when the class ends)) nullable
teacherId ((this is the parentId from the person table)) nullable
Students
personId ((this is the personId from the person table))
classId
associations:
a class has 0 or 1 teacher,
0 or many students
a teacherId must exist in the person table as a personId
a studentId must exist in the person table as a personId
(if you delete a personId in the person table, it cascades deletes any teacherId or studentId of the same value)
your class has a collection of students. therefore:
private List<Student> students
Your class will also have something like
addStudent(Student student) (throw exception if student already exists) (note you dont pass in the start and
end date since its the class's responsibility for start and end date, not student)
isStudent(Student student) (return true if student is already in class, false if not)
deleteStudent(Student student) ((returns true if student found and deleted, false if student not found to delete)
Your business logic can check things such as if the start date occurs before the end date (an error), you have a class with no teacher or no students, etc. The first case you can do in the database with constraints if you want, but the second you cant since you want to store info for a class even if a teacher isn't assigned to it yet.
One way to do this is to have a validate() function in your class object. The validate() function checks such things as a class with no teacher and returns a collection of warnings if it finds anything wrong. All the above is just something off the top of my head. So there may be some issues with my approach that you will have to work out.
Good Luck!

Logical question, it's not enought to know LabVIEW, it's necessary intelligence...

Suppose that you have a while loop that generate random numbers between 0 and 9. Have you INTELLIGENT way to build an array in which you save data, but with FIFO LOGICAL: first in, first out. For example you generate this sequence:
1 3 9 2 8 4 8 2 9 1 2 0 1 2 3 2 0
SUPPOSE that array, that save data, is of 5 elements:
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2 0 0 0 0
3 2 0 0 0
1 2 3 2 0
0 1 2 3 2
2 0 1 2 3
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Michelle,
I'm am simply trying to offer some advice. I, as most people here have a limited amount of time to volunteer here to help people. In almost everythread you have startedyou ask people to post their code solving the problem you are asking about. I have yet to see a single piece of code, or even a screen shot of any code that you have written. It is clear that English is not your primary language and it may be difficult to clearly express what you are trying to ask. Regardless, samples of what you have tried will go a long way to show that you are indeed putting effort into these problems and not simply asking for someone to do the work for you. Your original question in this post is not very clear about what you are even trying to accomplish. Therefore it is very difficult to even begin to offer any suggestions. All I am trying to say is that you will get more help when you show that you are trying different things and need some assistance with a particular issue. If you are posting this as a thought problem and challenge to see what types of solutions are possible than say that. I got the impression that you are trying to implement this problem and seeking someone to post the solution for you. If this is incorrect then I apologize.
Mark
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Some Basic Logic Questions

I used to use Cakewalk Sonar and I knew it really well. I just got my mac pro and logic 7.2 and I'm having trouble making sense of everything, including the manuals. Can anyone suggest some tips for me on the following simple items. I really thought they would be much more intuitive.
1. Recording Audio with my Motu 896HD.
2. Recording Midi with my M-Audio key Station
3. Can I bus to a master fader? I don't see one in the mix board.
4. I really need a good compressor. Can I rely on the Logic one or should I upgrade?
5. rewiring Reason
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I just spent 3 hours tooling around and I'm a bit burnt out. I'm sure I'll get the hang of it but it's just overwhelming. I can't get used to the terms and the screens, etc.
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Yes Logic is extremely overwhelming at first, it was for me anyway. I have had it for a little over a year now and there is still a lot that I don't know, but I think I can answer the majority of your questions.
I am not familiar with the MOTU 896HD, but I use a MOTU Traveler, so hopefully it is somewhat similar. It should be for the most part plug and play, so Logic should recognize it. When it comes to recording audio, open the mixer, and click tracks to view the audio channels. I've never used Sonar, but I'm guessing most things in this area are similar. First where a channel says something like "Input 1" you can click there and change the input source (this is the input on your MOTU), and then of course you engage for recording which I'm sure you know of this function.
Recording midi with your m-audio is extremely self explanatory also, go to your mixer and select instruments, then load some type of soft synth in as an insert, then go to your arrange window (the main window that comes up as standard) and click the tiny little engage button next to that particular channel. If your m-audio is connected, it should automatically work just like that.
Yes everything is in a master fader, if you click Outputs in the mixer, it should show your outputs, if nothing is there, then there is no output in the arrange, not to worry, click the Global button in the mixer window and then click to view the outputs, and there you go! There should be a fader for Outputs1-2, if you double click this, it will add it to your arrange window so you can automate and do stuff like that if you would like to.
A lot of people rag on the Logic Compressor, but it does the job for me. If you search around these forums, there is a post about the Logic Compressor and EQs comparing them to other 3rd party productions.
As for rewiring Reason, I have no experience with this whatsoever.
Yes you can build custom drum loops, you can insert Ultrabeat into an instrument channel and use that. It is a extremely simplistic program if you need it to be, but it also allows you to change many parameters of the samples. It comes with tons of preset drum kits and banks, and of course you can use your own.
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It's very hot here in Rome, too hot to write very long answers.......
But you could find something very helpful here:
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Indeed, one has to save as a MIDI file and then it can be opened in any DAW, but you will lose Logic-specific references.
I have a question for both of you however. I notice that both of you have Logic 2.0/2.5. I have suffered a catastrophic power surge on my Power Mac, which wiped out my HD in the process. I am now in the process of trying to find a copy of Logic 2.0 so I can re-install on a replacement Mac, as I've lost my original floppies a long time ago. My question is this: if you guys maybe have upgraded to a newer DAW, would you consider letting me have or selling me Logic 2.0? You would really be helping me out.
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I am trying to create the following logic in my form however cannot get it to work, help!
I have two fields: LocNumber and LocAddress.   If LocNumber=NY001, I want LocAddress to populate with "Times Square", if LocNumber=NY003, LocAddress should populate with "Wall Street Plaza", if LocNumber=NY005, LocAddress should populate with "Third Avenue", and so on and so on. My javascript below results in the field populating with Times Square only.
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LOGIC QUESTION - Posting to an alternate account based on parent value

Hi
I need to calculate the value of an aggregate account and then if the value of that aggregate account is negative, post all of its base level accounts (whose values might be DR and CR values) to an alternate account stored as a property in the account dimension.
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*MEMBERSET(%AccountsList%,"Descendants([Account].[PKBS110022],999,LEAVES)")
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I tried removing the line
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A logical question about why we update firmware

just being real here
we all like the latest and greatest products, especially mobiles, and we all know they have their share of isues. but yet still we buy even though the device we owned previously worked fine or almost something like 90%.
the question is why do we buy these devices, then depend on firmware updates that sometimes improves speed, or maybe add a couple apps, but doesn't solve the bugs. why do we even bother to update. do we have to. if our phone is working ok, why go through the update process, lose all our installed apps, and then start encountering problems we never had before.
it is just a strange price we pay for technology. remember before firmware updates were available, our phones worked great. no worrying about wi-fi connection problems, or camera bugs, or widgets not loading, or phone constantly crashing and rebooting on its own. why can't we get a phone that works 100%, especially when we shell out up to $600us or sometimes more.
when i new update is released i am hesitant to go through it, but in the end still do. sad but true. so the question is, WHY?
Message Edited by coopere on 06-Jul-2009 05:13 PM
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Good question ;-)
That question is more philosophical than mobile-related I think. That´s how people work and that´s how our market system works. People always want to have the newest gadgets, the latest technologies etc. Sometimes they´re better, sometimes not, but whether a product succeeds in the marketplace is not always about quality.
Demand creates offerings. If there wasn´t any demand for newer mobiles, there wouldn´t be any.
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I currently run Logic Studio on my dual G4, which is finally starting to die on me. I am going to be getting one of the quad Mac Pros soon, and I wanted to make sure that my current Logic Studio will install on it. In other words, does the move to 10.5 and the intel mac mean I need a different version of the Studio disks, or will my current ones install and run without a problem?

Your Logic Studio disks (ie Logic Pro 8) will install fine on your new Mac Pro.
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Hi all:
anyone understand how this logical works?I had to use vector to store objects from data files andi make it works and sort perfect. but i do not understand why you have adding to element 0 for number 90
then adding to elelemnt 0 for number 8
assing to ellent 1 for 25 and so on. Where do u get that?
i do not understand this logicial. this is demo output that i am supposed to follow. all i have left is add the code for adding to element number etc
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Trying to add 25
adding to element 1
Vector size =3
Trying to add 10
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i don't know what you're trying to say us. as i can
see the loop simply traverses the vector, outputting
all its values and the momentary index.yeah, i am trying to figure out why it is adding to element 0
ans 2nd number still adding to elemment 0
adding to elment 1
and number 27 is adding to element 3, i do dnot think i tis fixed that way. there must be some alogirthim in this.
where do they come from, and how do i implmnet that into the code that's my problem
do u mean by momentary index refers to adding element 0 1 etc? what is that
thanks
willy

Duet With Logic Question

I noticed watching the online video demo of the Duet that they say to turn Software Monitoring OFF in Logic.
Does this mean Duet users are unable to record guitar direct with an amp simulator plug in?
Confused....
thanks
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When I open a garageband project in Logic 8, most of the audio tracks won't have sound, and when I create new audio tracks in those same projects, they also often don't have sound.
It seems random which tracks don't work and which do. And doubling tracks that are functioning right usually doesn't work.
All other kind of tracks (software inst., ext. midi, etc.) work.
Any idea what's wrong?
I looked through the discussions and couldn't find an answer- sorry if it's been asked.
Thanks in advance for any help...
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Make sure the correct output is assigned to the audio tracks.
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