2 Partitions needed in Tiger: Mac and Windows

I just bought my nephew a verbatim 320G external hard drive for the iBook G3 laptop that I gave him (the internal drive is way too small). He has Mac programs that we bought for him and he needed a bigger hard drive to install them on.
Now he tells me that he'd like to also use part of the Verbatim hard drive to back up his Windows laptop that's using Vista.
How can I partition this Verbatim drive to have a Mac partition AND a Windows Vista Partition both on the same hard drive in Tiger? Can it be done, and how?

Yes it can, In Disk Utility just Partition it then make one Mac OS Extended, the other MS-DOS.
One option is MacDrive for you PCs... allows them to Read/Write HFS+...
http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive/
More options...
NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver...
http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
MacFUSE: Full Read-Write NTFS for Mac OS X, Among Others...
http://www.osnews.com/story/16930

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The TC drive cannot be partitioned without removing it.. did you do that?
If you partition it you must use a Mac disk utility and use the HFS+ ie standard Mac format. And GUID partition table not windows type.
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This whole prbolem came about when my computer started having issues, I want to back it up and whether I can continue to use my laptop or not I will still be owning an apple in the future. I went to buy a hard for back up and got told that it is not as easy as one would think to transfer files from mac OS to windows OS and vice versa. I have a mac, my boyfriend has a windows computer; we share files. Mostly I just copy his files, but once in a while I give him files too. I have read up and talked to people and only found one solution so far to format the external drive to fat 32 or exfat. I think only mac has the exfat option, but works well between both OSs, correct me if I am wrong.
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