2 Pg PDF: Facing Pages?

I have a 2 page PDF, two letter size pages. By default,
Acrobat only wants to show pages 2-3 as facing pages. How do I make
pages 1-2 facing? Cheers!

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How do I display PDF in 'book' or 'facing pages' mode?

I don't mean VIEW> PAGE DISPLAY > TWO-UP.
I've created a PDF document designed to be a book. I need the first page (the cover) to come up by itself, or with a blank on the left. Then all subsequent pages to display side by side, odd numbers on the right.
When I open the document in Acrobat Reader Pro it displays it just fine, automatically. But with Adobe Reader it displays page one first, on the left side, and page two on the right ... making the whole document out of sync. There is no blank on the left, nor does it display page one all by itself (as does 'Preview' in Mac).
The document is going out to a dozen people who are helping with the edit. It is imperative that they view it properly. They will all have different Readers. I'd like to recommend they all get Adobe Reader for now (as it is free and comes for both Windows and Mac). But I have to be able to tell them how to set the preferences to get a (BOOK MODE or FACING PAGES).
Any help would be most appreciated, thank you,
Ben

see http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b5979c/0
or you could insert a blank back cover and blank inside front cover page prior to the cover and page 1 respectively.

Possible to view PDFs in Preview app as facing pages?

Is there a way to view a PDF with facing pages in the Preview app? Like if you had a book open?
(Other than slideshow?)
Regards,
Karen

Thanks,
Tried that, no luck. Are there any other settings I can try?
BTW, I can display the same PDF with facing page in DevonThink and Journler with no problems.
Karen

Exporting to a PDF with facing pages

Please help, I have encounter a problem with InDesign CS4, which I didn't have with CS3 version.
When I export an InDesign document with facing pages into a PDF, it turns it into a PDF document with consecutive pages (spreads are broken into individual pages). I want to keep the facing pages format in PDF as well.
My document is an online newsletter, which can be printed on an office printer. Pages are letter size for convenience
Now, I tried to check "Spreads" in the export to PDF dialogue box and what happened is that Acrobat resized spreads containing 2 facing letter-size pages onto a single letter size page. The cover appears and prints fine, but all the spreads are downsized.
What am I doing wrong????

Thank you very much, I went into Acorbat's file-properties and set it up there and it worked!
but for some reason I never had to change settings in Acrobat with InDesign CS3 documents

How do I save my InDesign project as a .pdf so that it shows up on the reader as FACING PAGES?

How do I save my InDesign project as a .pdf so that it shows up on the acrobate reader as FACING PAGES?

It's on the export options for PDF (Interactive), but not for PDF (Print).

Cross-references go to facing page when PDF'd

Is there a workaround for this? Mac, CS5.5. (I also have CS6 but still can't get the file to open!!)
I have a large book file, with facing pages. Cross-references throughout, exporting to PDF via PDF (Print) to get separate pages rather than spreads.
The resulting bookmarks are all correct, but the cross-references go to what would be the right hand page instead of the noted page. So, if the cross-reference is supposed to go to left page 84, it actually goes to right page 85. That works fine if the PDF is viewed in 2-up view, or exported as full spreads, but not in single page view.
Is there a solution? Or is it fixed in CS6?

Yes. There are five in one book. All the page links lead to pages in documents within the book.
The Contents page is in one InDesign document. It has links in it to pages within the other four InDesign documents.
Currently, clicking on the links in the exported PDF of the book takes you to page 1 - except for links to pages within the same InDesign document, and one link on the Contents page which leads to the correct page (that link is set up in the same way as the others).
EDIT: BTW - I will be leaving work in about 30 minutes, so I won't be able to try out any fixes until tomorrow, about 10am (London, UK).
UPDATE: When I checked the broken hyperlinks in Acrobat Professional, all of the page links that led to the cover were set to go to page 0. But in the InDesign document, they're all set to go to the correct page.
Message was edited by: richard_cosgrove

Question regarding bleeding and facing pages.

Hello,
i'm in trouble with my first InDesign document which is a 96 pages Magazine. It will be printed on A3 sheets stapled in the middle. My printing guy said that it's ok as A4 pages with 3mm bleed.
So now when i'm trying to export as a printed pdf (i check mark that i want to use the documents bleeding settings) it exports with sections from left and right depending on the pages (the left page exports with ?? i guess 3 mm ?? bleed from the right page and so on). If i override the bleeding settings and i set it to 0mm it all ok but i fear that some pictures or text might get cut off since i have all planned with the bleed markers in indesign.
And i can't uncheck the facing pages since i have some graphics (charts and so on) that spread from one page to another (on same spread).
My question is ... is there anything i can do and still use bleeds or (ignore "inside bleeds" or something) or is it ok to use the export as spreadsheet instead of individual pages since he wanted A4 pages?
Any help for a newbie would be appreciated. Thank you.

You should ask the printers to use PUR (polyurethane reactive) Bind when making a perfect bound book - that's a much stronger glue than EVA. It won't even break apart or fall apart going from freezing cold (out in the car over night) to being warmed up, which happens with EVA binding. But the PUR bind seems to be a lot more popular and stronger.
Failing that, getting the book threadsewn also helps to keep pages together. If you have a large print run and need these to last, then I suggest perfect binding them with a threadsewn finish.
I've definitely seen and done 96pp saddle stitched (well personally I have imposed, printed and delivered these). You might have to sacrafice a drop in weight on the body text. It can get ugly, but it's definitely doable.
My suggestion here would be to ask the printers for a similiar 96pp saddle stitch sample that they've done before, to make sure you're happy with it.
In fact, you can ask them to send you out a dummy (a blank version of the book trimmed and folded) to make sure you're happy with it.
It really is disppointing to get a printed job back from the printers and you discover you are not happy with the binding method.

Can I have both facing and non-facing pages in a document?

I am trying to assemble a booklet with 11x17 spreads - some of these will be two facing 8.5x11 pages, but others will be a single 11x17 image, and would be better to treat them as a one page spread. We will be producing a hardcopy and an electronic version. The hastily sketched image below shows what I'm looking for. In the PDF version, the pages would be oriented as shown. In the booklet, the large images would be rotated to fit into the 8.5x11 booklet and viewed centerfold style.
Is this a thing I can accomplish in one InDesign document, or will I need to produce separate versions for the digital & print editions?
Thanks!!

For the print version I would set up as an ordinary 8.5 x 11 facing pages file, and rotate the spread view for the pages that you need to see as 11 x 17 verticals, but you're going to need a second PDF for the electronic version if you want to export spreads. I'd give exporting as PDF (Interactive) a try -- spreads is the default, and rotate the occasional page in Acrobat before distribution. That will give you spreads for everything, though, so if you want to have individual 8.5 x 11 pages, you'll need to export multiple PDFs, specifying ranges, with spreads selected or deselected, then combine them all into a single PDF in Acrobat for distribution.

Print job best setup - inside edge bleed from facing pages?

I'm putting together a 32pp A4 report with InDesign CS3 that will be printed from PDF in China. I'm UK-based and I will be passing the file to the printers electronically. I speak no Chinese, yet my client has an office in China and one of their staff (non-graphics expert) will be the middle man.
At the moment I'm setting up my document with facing pages and 5mm bleed. I recall from a recent UK print job using the same document setup that when I output to PDF with Use Document Bleed Settings ticked, the print bureau complained that images which filled one side of A4 and bled off outside/top/bottom of the page did not bleed off the inside. I asked them how to give them what they needed and they said the facing spreads needed to be 'separated into single pages' before I made the PDF - this would enable bleed on all 4 sides. I didn't know how to do that and maintain facing pages to allow me to design on a spread-by-spread basis, so I asked them. They couldn't tell me, so I left it as it was. In the end they had to trim the pages slightly more on the inside to get rid of any white paper.
I'm very keen to avoid any problems at all with this print job, so I want to get the setup and process right in my head from the start.
So my question: how can I set this document up to minimise problems for the printer? I don't mind if that involves another process before exporting, I just don't know what that might be.
Many thanks.

The way you have it setup is the correct way for Perfect Binding.
The image that appears on the right hand page in the picture posted, that area actually goes into the spine area - look at any book that has a spine and see how deep the pages go into the spine.
You will also notice that the image on the right hand page does not go past the crop mark - so in reality it's actually cropped off the page altogether, so there's no need to worry about it.
What you have is perfect - for perfect binding (or saddle stitching)
Don't worry about the script posted earlier - that is for a different type of binding.
Sidenote
When you make a PDF for printing make sure you offset your Crop Marks further than your bleed
Bellow I've used points and pica (but you can use 5mm bleed and offset by 6mm)
Reason:
Crop marks
are needed to trim the page to size when printed. As printers can't
print right to edge of a sheet, and that it's near impossible to trim a
sheet of paper right to the edge of a colour - the colour needs to
extend past the crop line, this is called
bleed.
When you bleed the document, i.e., extend any item that is tucked right
against the foredge (the edges opposite the spine), then you need to
extend this object off the page into a "bleed" area.
This allows for human error when trimming the paper, as each sheet is
not trimmed individually (that would take forever!) they are stacked on
top of each other and trimmed in stacks. It would be impossible to stack
all the sheets exactly even, and there is movement on the press, so
compensating for the movement and the fact they can never be stacked
exactly even - for this reason you need objects to extend past the edge
of the page.
The crop marks
tell the guillotine operator where to trim the sheet. Once they have
the measurements in their guillotine machine it's a simple matter of
rinse and repeat with as many stacks of paper there are.
And printers can sometimes fold and trim a print job folding machine,
and since it's a machine and you have to account for mechanical errors
and human error, you need bleed too.
Bleed is important - If you don't add bleed then the object stops at the
foredge of the paper. And if the blade trims/crops close to the object
but misses by a sliver - then you have a sliver of white on the printed
piece, which is highly undesirable.
So you need crop marks
so the printers know where exactly to cut the paper, and to cut into
the bleed so that you don't have slivers of white.
And yes you need crop marks even if you don't have bleed, if you
don't have any bleed it's likely that the edges of the paper are just
white, so there are no markings where to cut to give the correct size
that you want. So crop marks need to be included no matter what.
And the placement of crop marks is important. As I said earlier, crop marks are
for letting the guillotine operator know where to trim the page so that
it cuts into the bleed area. The bleed area to allow for mechanical,
physical and human error. And seen as the bleed can sometimes be
included in a final printed piece it is not desirable to have anything
other than bleed objects in the bleed area.
For this reason you offset your crop marks to be outside the bleed area. As I'm in
Europe I work mainly in millimeters, so I would set my Bleed Area to be 5
mm and I would set my crop marks to Offset by 6mm.
This ensures that the crop marks do not encroach the bleed area. If your crop marks do
encroach the bleed area you run the risk of the crop
marks appearing on a final printed
piece.
So in Summary
Make sure you have bleed where necessary on your document.
Add the desired amount of bleed - in my case 5mm.
Offset the crop marks
so they don't encroach the bleed area - in my case 6mm.

How can I set mirror margins (or "facing pages") in 5.0?

I recently updated by Mac System to Maverick just so I could update to the new version of Pages. In so doing, I gave up my old MS word program (because it was outdated for this system). But Pages did most of those things I needed.
HOWEVER
Now, I am trying to format a .pdf file to publish a book and I CANNOT see how to set "mirror margins" or "facing pages" in order to properly format my book. What happened to this feature (and what the **** was Pages thinking when they dropped this feature, if they did?).
I saw another post that suggested trashing Pages 5.0 and getting the old version out of a folder and using it (not sure I can now that I'm running Maverick).
Do I need to go buy a new version of MS Word so that I can format books now?
Help!
(And I need it right NOW).
Thanks,
Lareena

Both Pages '09 and Pages '08 work with Mavericks.
http://www.freeforum101.com/iworktipsntrick/viewforum.php?f=22&sid=3527487677f0c 6fa05b6297cd00f8eb9&mforum=iworktipsntrick
Peter

How do I set inner bleeds for facing pages in Illustrator

I am designing the layout for a 8.5" x 8.5" children's book to be uploaded to an online publisher, and they require a .25" bleed around all the outside edges, except for a no ink area of .125" on the bind side. The document must be set up for single pages rather than spread. The document must be saved as postscript so I can create the pdf using Distiller (per the printer). How do I accomodate a different set of bleeds for facing (even/odd) pages within one Illustrator document?
Here are the guidlines I was given (this is the only image):
[IMG]http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1604/xulontrimguide.jpg[/IMG]
Is this even possible? Or will I need to use InDesign? The document is already setup in Illustrator with an individual artboard for each page, and I'd rather not go through the hassle of transferring it all to InDesign. If I must, though, what is the best option for setting it up as an InDesign document, and how can I adjust these bleeds accordingly while retaining a singlepage pdf for saving as postscript?

Illustrator doesn't have a consept of facing pages, so you'll need InDesign to do that.

Printing Facing Pages

I can create pdfs with facing pages and local printer can print them out fine. What i want to be able to do is have my facing page exported in indiesign
pages look like this on screen with spreads which is what I want.
1
2-3
4-5
6
But i would also like to print this out on my office printers so that it looks correct and I can fold it. So when printing it would look ike this on each printed page
6-1
2-3
4-5
Does this make sense? this this possible printing through adobe pdf or indesign without re-laying the page out in landscape format? I know my local printer somehow does it from the pdf.
Thanks for your help.

You don't mention version, and it is slightly different between versions, but staring in CS you might have the InBooklet SE plugin, definitely have it in CS2, or have Print Booklet in CS3 or CS4, all of which will be under the File menu. THese are imposition tools for printing directly from ID, but if you need PDF, for example to print two sides on a non-duplexing printer, you can print to the Adobe PDF virtual printer that is installed with Acrobat (full versions, not reader).
Peter

Facing pages options missing in new Pages

Am I missing something or is the facing pages options not available in new Pages app?

Fitzherbert if you are working on a book (which most people using the Facing Pages feature are) then you probably want to use iBooks Author.
you can download it for free here http://www.apple.com/ibooks-author/
It is a great app and you can export your book as a PDF if you don't want to publish it on iBooks.
Hope this helps.

Exported PDF Missing pages - why?

Hi ...
I'm new to Indesign and finding my way round.
I have an Indesign document with 3 pages/spreads all sharing a common Master page, with no facing pages.
I export to PDF, and the Export dialog offers the option of exporting pages 1-3 (so I know it sees all 3 pages), which I select, but the exported PDF only has pages 1 and 2.
How can I fix this?
Thanks
Richard

I'm exporting to PDF Print - here are the key settings - let me know if there are key settings in other tabs in the Export dialog:
Thanks
Richard

Non facing pages with two masters

My pre-press contact has advised me to create documents without facing pages checked. I'm not 100% sure why since I'll be exporting to .pdf anyway, allowing them to impose the pages. She just said that facing pages "nearly always cause problems."
However, I am creating a large conference program book with a left and right master. I know how to set up two separate masters. What concerns me is the inevitable changes--pages inserted, pages deleted. With facing pages In Design 'figures it out.' As long as you don't have uneven columns or pull quotes in the margins, it's not too much trouble to insert a single page within the book during the design process.
I've played around with the no facing pages, two masters, and as best as I can see, adding a page is as bad as I feared: I would have to manually reset every single page after that one to the proper master. I HAVE to be missing something as that would get old really fast in a 100+ page program that will probably morph multiple times.
On a related note, certain pages or sections of pages, will have unique footers, aligned either left or right. (ie Welcome from the President; Sunday--Session 1, etc.) I will obviously strive to do these last for the reasons mentioned above. But, again, is there am InDesign trick that I'm missing? This can't be uncommon.
Straight-up design I can handle, but dealing with large, complex documents is something I don't have much experience with.
Thanks for your advice.

Take a different printer. She is telling you complete nonsense. Maybe that SHE has problems, but it is not caused by InDesign, it is caused by HER.
If you have a double sided printed publication you have to set it up as facing pages and you have to export as single pages.
In combination with the document setup to facing/non-facing pages you will have an influence on many things in your document:
Paragraph alignment toward or away from spine (as it often used for page numbers).
Anchored objects with toward and from spine settings.
Keep options.
If a printer is not able to handle facing pages look for a different printer.

2 Pg PDF: Facing Pages?

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