2 system drives?

Hi.
I have my old 5400 rpm HDD in an obtibay, and a SSD in the main bay.
Since my SSD failed recently, I've installed OSX on the HDD.
When I get my new SSD, is it possible to keep the system on the HDD, as a "just in case"?
When I reinstall the SSD, I would like to move my user folder to the HDD - is this possible, if the system already exists on the HDD?
If not, I can easily reformat my HDD, but the other solution would be easier!
Thanks,
Magnus

Sure. In fact, if I were you, I would use Carbon Copy Cloner to make sure that both drives are running identical file systems. Or you could choose to only clone your user folder. You would simply have a clone of your drives so that if one failed again, you could always boot from the other and have all of your information intact.
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