2 WRT54G's - which one to be main router, which one to be repeater?

I currently use a WRT54G v.3 router with one computer connected via wire and other devices accessing wifi. Wifi signal is weak in various parts of the house and doesn't extend to the backyard. I have another WRT54G router (ver 6) that I want to use as a repeater.
Based on research I've done, it sounds like the v.3 router is better suited to accommodate DD-WRT firmware, whereas if I try to do this with the ver 6 router, it is more sensitive and likely to be bricked.
Should I do the following:
- replace the v.3 main router with the ver 6 router as the one connected to the DSL and to the wired computer
- change the firmware on the v.3 router to DD-WRT and utilize this one as the bridge?
Is this the proper approach? I strongly prefer not to purchase a dedicated repeater if I can use the 2nd router to do the job. Thanks in advance.

Yes, you can try that if you don't wish to purchase an additional equipment like a Range Expander or an Access Point...

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When I connect my apple tv to my access point upstair and connect my ipad to the same access point i cant see my apple tv when i open up the airplay menu on my ipad. but i can see the apple tv in the living room downstair which connect to the main router

when I connect my apple tv to my access point upstair and connect my ipad to the same access point i cant see my apple tv when i open up the airplay menu on my ipad. but i can see the apple tv in the living room downstair which connect to the main router.
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IPhoto has one (random) main photo for everything on top repeatedly with other appropriate photos behind it. How do I get off that one random photo so the real photos appear on top as it should be?

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Is there a way to turn the wireless capabilities off on an AirPort Express? I have an AirPort Extreme as my main router and use the express to just extend it. I only really want to you use the express for hard ethernet connections

Is there a way to turn the wireless capabilities off on an AirPort Express? I have an AirPort Extreme as my main router and use the express to just extend it. I only really want to you use the express for hard ethernet connections. For whatever reason when I have my express extend my wifi at home the download speed from just the express is absolutely terrible, drops to about 1.5 mb compared to when it's on the extremes part of the network the speed goes up to 50-75mb. These terrible download speed really only affects the iPhones as my MacBook Pro usually gets the good speed no matter where it is. I don't believe there is anything wrong with my phone because if I am in the part of the house that uses just the extreme the download speeds on the iphone goes up to 50-75mb. As a note I have an AirPort Extreme on the top floor of my house (second floor) that's where my modem is located. On the first floor that's where one airport express is located. I also have another airport express in the basement that is accessed by my landlord. Any thoughts on how to fix this would be helpful.

Is there a way to turn the wireless capabilities off on an AirPort Express? I have an AirPort Extreme as my main router and use the express to just extend it. I only really want to you use the express for hard ethernet connections.
It appears that your networking goals with the AirPort Express is to use it as a wireless Ethernet bridge instead of using it to extend the wireless range of your AirPort Extreme. The latter requires that the Express Wi-Fi radios be enabled.
If you intended to use the Express as a wireless bridge, you just need to reconfigure it to "Join a wireless" network instead of "Extend a wireless network."
For whatever reason when I have my express extend my wifi at home the download speed from just the express is absolutely terrible, drops to about 1.5 mb compared to when it's on the extremes part of the network the speed goes up to 50-75mb.
In an extended network, the placement of the extending base station is critical as it can only extend the wireless network at the bandwidth at which it receives it.
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Connecting 2nd router, separate from main router

Hello.. I've been searching the forums for a bit and can't seem to find an answer to this, so I figured I'd start up a thread.. I have A WRT54G connected as the main wireless router in my house. Today I purchased the WRT600N with hopes of connecting it to the same internet connection as the WRT54G but as a completely separate router.. I've spent all day trying to configure it and get a connection with a different IP as the the first router but have yet to accomplish this.. I get to the point where I have a connection to the second router and it has its own IP and everything, but the internet doesn't work.. I was hoping someone could either help me with this or point me in the right direction to find a way of accomplishing this. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. Forgot one thing, not sure if it matters though.. The computer that is connected to the first router is a PC running XP Pro and the computer I'm trying to set up on the second router is a Macbook..
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What do you mean with "completely separate router"? You cannot completely separate two routers if one hosts the internet connection. The internet connection of the second must run through the first. The LAN of the second can always access the LAN of the first. That's pretty much inevitable with these cheap routers.
Thus, to complete separate two routers/subnets you actually need three routers, one that hosts the internet connection and two connect to the first. Each of those two additional router LANs are then separated as long as the access to the first main router is well secured.
Unless you have very serious reasons to run two subnets I would always recommend a single LAN setup like this.
Other then that I have described possible two router setups here.
If you want to chain the two routers then you have to set them up like this:
1. router
WAN - setup for your internet connection, e.g. PPPoE or DHCP.
LAN IP 192.168.1.1
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
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DHCP server address pool default 192.168.1.100-149
Check the Status tab of the 1. router to make sure that it has a working internet connection. Write down the DNS server addresses you find on the Status page.
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WAN IP 192.168.1.2
WAN subnet 255.255.255.0
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WRT54G, Firmware Version: 8.00.2, Stops routing after a day, Requires Power Cycle to Work Properly

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http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/cs-006205.htm

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I have kind of successfully connected my Wag320n to my main router an Optus Sagem router, they are connected using powerline ethernet adaptors with wireless available on both although I can't access the Wag320n menu wirelessly.
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Recently I changed to Fibre Broadband in Singapore. Because the connection for Fibre was located near the front door wifi was very very weak in my rooms. This is what I did.
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The speed that I was getting 30 Mbps. I should be receiving about 70 - 100 Mbps.
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Could not connect to Airport Extreme by Ethernet as my wife insisted she did not want wires dangling around the living room.
Ethernet should be properly installed in the walls.
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You may get improvement using AC wireless bridge equipment.. that actually will cost you more than doing it in ethernet.. with poorer results..
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It is actually a wireless bridge. Wireless to ethernet bridge is perhaps the best and clearest term.
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So I am looking to improve my wireless signal in my house as well as find a better solution for Time Machine rather than using a portable HDD which I plug in now and again to backup.
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If it can be used in addition to could I place it say half way between my router and further point I would be from my main router so it doubles (Triples rather!) up as a wi-fi range booster?
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I have used other MP3 players before though. In most respects I find the Ipod superior to the other MP3 players I have used. However, there is one setting, that I have made before on other MP3 players, for instance my old Creative Muvo 4GB (a few years old), which I cannot figure out how to set on my Ipod.
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Thank you for the reply, Chris.
I thought of that idea, a separate playlist for each song. That would be fine, if I was only playing one song. But I want to have the list of songs ready to play, so was going to put them in a playlist together. I need to be able to get to the next song quickly, without a lot of messing around with the Ipod.
Is it possible to put playlists within playlists? Then, perhaps I could make an individual playlist for each song, and make a playlist with all those one-song playlists together. If that is possible, it probably still would make it too complicated to go to the next song, probably having to use the menu button to go back to the higher playlist, etc. I want to keep playback simple.
I may try your idea of creating a blank "song" to put between tracks. (Is there also no way currently otherwise, to put a certain amount of empty space in between tracks?)
Thanks also for the feedback link. I will send this concern to Apple, and hope they add that capability soon.

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Can I use Time Capsule ONLY as a WiFi backup disk w/out having to configure it as my main router with my Internet modem?
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Disadvantages...none, except it requires a wired Ethernet connection to the AirPort Extreme.
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I am experiencing network failures with my Airport Extremes: the main router is a 2nd Gen, the extension a 5th Gen.
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I have admin access to the main router in our LAN, so how can i telnet or get access to other LAN members in LAN without using third party software?
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