20011 A default named pool object cannot be created for an existingshared pool

Further to my above message about "Cannot update eDirectory for this
pool", i tried under nssmu on OES/Linux instead of iManager and got the
above message.
I found this TID which seems to describe the same problem on NetWare:
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/se...i?10094555.htm
The prescribed steps didn't work to solve the problem on Linux. The
only objects i could find in NDS relating to the previous pools of the
same name were in the SLP DA's scope. Deleting them and trying the
remaining steps in the TID had no effect.
I'm about to restart the cluster in question and the SLP DA as well, but
i expect i am going to meet with the same lack of results.
Any ideas?
Paul

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    -----Original Message-----
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    [<a href="mailto:[email protected]]On">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Ananiev, Alex
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    ----Original Message Follows----
    David,
    First I will start by saying that this can be done by using named
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    BTW
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    Sean
    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected]
    [<a href=
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    Subject: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected]
    [<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Albert Dijk
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 1998 11:01 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject:
    Alex, David, Jez, Sean,...
    My question about both solutions (using Nameservice and agents) is:
    If I reach a remote service object using either a BindObject or an agent, do
    fail-over and load-balancing work the same way as they normally do when
    using a hard coded reference to the SO.
    Albert Dijk
    From: Sean Brown[SMTP:[email protected]]
    Reply To: [email protected]
    Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 6:55 AM
    To: Ananiev, Alex; [email protected]
    Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and
    interface
    Alexander,
    I can not comment on the speed difference because I never tested it.
    But, I
    will say that we looked at the agent solution at a client sight
    before. I
    will give the same warning I gave them. If you go the agent direction
    you
    are now using agents for a purpose that they were not intended. Even
    though
    it technically works, as soon as you start using a piece of
    functionality in
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    consideration in
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    [<a href="mailto:[email protected]]On">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Ananiev, Alex
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