2006 Core 2 Duo 15" (A1211) memory and wireless questions
Hi all,
I've got a MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 15", 2.16ghz (A1211 model)
A couple quick questions:
1) When I first bought the computer (late 2006) it had 802.11g compatibility but shortly after apple released a small upgrade that would take it to 802.11N. Never bothered installing it as until now I've only had a g router, but am now thinking of upgrading. I'm on OS X 10.6 now and I read at one site online that Leopard included the 802.11N upgrade? Can anyone confirm this? If not, would I still need to specifically download something to upgrade?
2) Currently I've only got 1GB RAM. Its performance is fine with OS X 10.6 and what I use the computer for. However OS X 10.7 is out now and I know that 2GB minimum is needed for that. However, I've also read that Apple really recommends 4GB ram. While I know that this computer can physically accept 4GB, I also believe I understand that due to chipset limitations only 3GB or a little bit over 3GB can be exposed to the OS. So, question is, is it worth the $100 or so to buy two 2GB modules and upgrade this to use 10.7, or is the performance going to be lousy in this configuration, and better to save the money to put towards a new Mac downt he road?
Thanks in advance for any help or insights.
Re: 1 See this link:http://store.apple.com/us/product/D4141ZM/A
Re: 2 Why not just one 2GB chip?
I have a MBP core duo and it works perfectly. I have installed the maximum RAM and a 500GB HDD. I did get a new one last year because the older one could not handle some video apps, otherwise it does everything else, but just a tad slower that the new one.
Personally if you have no pressing need, keep the MBP you have. I maintain that technological obsolescence is more of perception than reality.
Ciao
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iMac (24-inch, Early 2009)
iMac - model: iMac9,1
1 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores
8 GB RAM
Video Information:
ATI Radeon HD 4850 - VRAM: 512 MB
Audio Plug-ins:
BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9
AirPlay: Version: 1.9 - SDK 10.9
AppleAVBAudio: Version: 2.0.0 - SDK 10.9
iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9
System Software:
OS X 10.9.1 (13B42) - Uptime: 0 days 2:40:57
Disk Information:
WDC WD1001FALS-40K1B0 disk0 : (1 TB)
EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
XooS5 HD (disk0s2) /: 999.35 GB (189.85 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5670S
USB Information:
Apple Inc. Built-in iSight
Canon CanoScan
Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
FireWire Information:
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EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
disk1s2 (disk1s2) <not mounted>: 2 TB
Boot OS X (disk1s3) <not mounted>: 134.2 MB
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com.f-secure.kext.fsauth (1.0.0d1)
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[failed] com.apple.wdhelper.plist [REMARK: this abnormality appeared only after running CleanMyMac. It does not appear on my 2011 MacBook]
Problem System Launch Agents:
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[loaded] com.f-secure.fsmac.firewall.plist
[loaded] com.f-secure.fsmac.fsupdated_guts2.plist
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[loaded] com.f-secure.relauncher.plist
[loaded] com.f-secure.trasher.plist
User Launch Agents:
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Flash Player
Internet Plug-ins::
FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 11.9.900.170 - SDK 10.6
Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9
AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: Version: 11.0.04 - SDK 10.6
AdobePDFViewer: Version: 11.0.04 - SDK 10.6
DivXBrowserPlugin: Version: 2.1
Flash Player: Version: 11.9.900.170 - SDK 10.6
OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin: Version: 12.2.8
Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 6.1
QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0
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Mobile backups: OFF
Auto backup: YES
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Intended action plan
Migrate the above 2009 iMac to a 2014 Mac Mini Server operating on Mavericks to ensure that no data may be lost while downgrading to Montain Lion.
Provided the above downgrading operation is successful, assign this 2009 iMac to partial retirement e.g. Mail, Skype, iTunes and DVD player.
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