2008 Mac Pro PCIe SSD write speeds

I plan on getting a PCIe SSD like the OWC Mercury Accelsior_E2 and seen great read speeds but the write speeds were much slower so anyone have info on this ?

there is a thread on MacRumors testing three I think different  PCIe cards and it will vary with different makes of SSD. Also putting the system SSD in RAID and/or on PCIe card often does not work reliably or have that much benefit. For data it is great.
YMMV.
There are some benchmarks on SSD Review looking at numbers. Different uses benefit from random vs sustained. And sustained is not why you generally use an SSD to begin with.
0.1 nanosecond seeks, low latency highest I/O per sec, and having high reads are great for system use, audio.
That kind of setup is excellent for a photoshop scratch array volume, Aperture and Lightroom catalogues. Even iPhoto library.

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