2008 R2/ Win7 Offline Files Sync causing High Load on server

Hi Everyone,
I have recently been investigating extremely high CPU Usage from the System Process on my company's main File Cluster.
We managed to track SRV2.sys Threads causing high CPU load within the system process, but was having issues identifying why this was the case.
As per Microsoft's direction via support call, we have installed the latest SRV2.sys Hotfixes, but this does not appear to have allivated the issue we are experiencing. We have also added more CPU and Memory into both nodes, which has not helped either.
We have since managed to create a system dump and is being sent to MS Support for analysis.
I have noticed the following that appears to happen on our cluster:
Whenever our CAD/Design department run certain functions within their apps running on a windows 7 client (apps include MicroStation, Revit, AutoCAD etc) we see a massive spike and flatline of the system process.
We found several users with Windows 7 clients that have Configured Offline File to sync an entire Network Volume (some volumes are 2TB Plus, so would never fit on a users computer anyway, i was quite shocked when I found this). How we spotted this was through
Resource Monitor, the System Process was trolling through all the folders and files in a given volume (it was "reading every single folder). Now, while this was the system process, we could identify the user by using the Open Files view in Server Manager's
Share and Storage Management tool.
I have done a fair bit of research and found that a lot of CAD/Drawing applications in the market have issues with using SMB2 (srv2.sys). When reviewing the products that we use, I noticed that a lot of these products actually recommended disabling SMB2
and reverting to SMB1 on File Server and/or the clients.
I have gone down the path of disabling SMB2 on all Windows 7 clients that have these CAD Applications installed to assist with lowering the load (our other options are to potentially shift the CAD Volumes off our main file cluster to further isolation these
performance issues we have been experiencing.) We will be testing this again tomorrow to confirm that the issue is resolved when mass amounts of CAD users access data on these volumes via their CAD Application.
We only noticed the issue with Offline Files today with trying to sync an ENTIRE Volume. My questions are:
Should Offline File sync's really cause this much load on a File Server?
Would the the size of the volume the sync is trying to complete create this additional load within the system process?
What is the industry considered "Best Practice" regarding Offline Files setup for Volumes which could have up to 1000+ users attached? (My personal opinion is that Offline Files should only be sync of user "Personal/Home" Folders
as they users themselves have a 1 to 1 relationship with this data.)
Is there an easier way to identify what users have Offline Files enabled and "actually being used" (from my understanding, Sync Center and Offline Files are enabled by default, but you obviously have to add the folders/drives you wish to sync)?
If I disable the ability for Offline Files on the volumes, what will the user experience be when/if they try to sync their offline files config after this has been disabled on the volume?
Hoping for some guidance regarding this setup with Offline Files.
Thanks in Advance!
Simon

Hi Everyone,
Just thought I would give an update on this.
While we're still deploying http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2733363/en-us to
the remainder of our Windows 7 SP1 fleet, according to some Network Traces and XPerf that were sent to MS Support, it looks as though the issu with the Offline Files is now resolved.
However, we are still having some issues with High CPU with the System Process in particular. Upon review of the traces, they have found a lot of ABE related traffic, leading them to believe that the issue may also be caused by ABE Access on our File Cluster.
We already have the required hotfix for ABE on 2008 R2 installed (please see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2732618/en-us), although we have it set to a certain value that MS believe may be too high. Our current value is set to "5", as that is the lowest level of any type of permission is set (i.e. where the lowest level of inheritance
is broken).
I think I will mark this as resolved regarding the Offline Files issue (as it did resolve the problem with the Offline Files)...
Fingers crossed we can identify the rest of the high load within the System Process!!!

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  • FIles stuck in offline files

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    Hi,
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  • Word crashing whilst offline files enabled

    Hi all,
    Having a few issues with Microsoft Word crashing whilst using offline files through the Sync centre.
    We use folder redirection to a central server, and supplement this with offline file sync for when they are off-site.
    When 'Online' the documents can be opened and saved without issue, however as soon as the laptop is taken home, Word will open a document and then crash. The same goes for trying to save it. A new document will not crash until a save is attempted.
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    Hi,
    In regarding of the issue, I have some questions about the issue:
    Did the other programs crashed when you opened the other format of the offline files, such as Excel file, txt file?
    Did all the local Word 2010 files crash when saving?
    Let's do the test to narrow down the issue:
    Open a other format offline file (Excel or other) through Sync center, if it still makes the program crashed, please try to
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    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921541
    If the issue still exists, please try the following methods:
    Verify/install the latest updates
    Start Word in safe mode, the issue may be caused by some add-ins. (http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint-help/work-with-office-safe-modes-HP010354300.aspx)
    Repair Office 2010.
    Hope it's helpful.
    Thanks
    George Zhao
    Forum Support
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  • Win 7 Offline Files and Captivate

    We save files to "My Documents" so that we can use Windows Sync to enable offline files (portability and server backup). Adobe products don't like pointing to network locations for output (published files and such). If I publish to a sync'd folder, it looks like a network file and Adobe products seem to hesitate or complain about this. I can point published files to the hard drive (C: for instance) but I lose the functionality of offline files (sync, backup). I have "aliased" a drive (for instance the L: drive) which Captivate thinks is a local drive (and not a network drive) and that works pretty well. The "aliased" drive points to the sync'd drive (read: networked drive).
    Any suggestions for more suitable implementations are greatly appreciated. Thank you.
    Michael

    Hi,
    Do you configure “Always available offline” on the clients? If so, disable it to check if the issue still exists. The Offline Files feature must be enabled on the client computer for files and programs to be automatically cached. Additionally, the
    Optimized for performance option does not have any effect on client computers using Windows Vista or newer.
    For more detailed information, please refer to the articles below:
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    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/working-with-network-files-offline#1TC=windows-7
    Configure Offline Availability for a Shared Folder
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc755136.aspx
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    Mandy
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