2009 Mac Pro 8-core shut off randomly, won't restart. Swapped processor board and HDD's into my other tower. Started fine and worked for about 10 minutes, then same thing. Powered off by itself and won't restart.

Both towers are 2009 models, one is 8-core, the other 4. I figured the problem was with the power supply, so I just stuck the guts from the 8-core into the 4-core. It booted up with no issues at all, didn't require any updates or anything. Firefox even restored my tabs. But after about 5-10 minutes, the machine shut off at random and won't start back up. The DIAG LED lights up one LED yellow when pressed, labelled "5V STBY". Same LED on both boards.
Any ideas? I've got two really expensive paper weights at the moment, and my AppleCare plan expired 3 months ago.

Dust VAC for dust bunnies
real issue can be thermal paste or lack or needing redone
dust clings to any ram or electronics or inside psu and graphic cards
motherboards both support dual processor?
thermal sensor readings from Hardware Monitor would be nice
unplugged is not enough to reset the SMC, power on button also, and every cableetc disconnected
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