200mhz fsb support

Hiya, just a quick question.
Will the K7N2-L support the 200mhz FSB athlons when they get released later on this year?
I hope that it will, as i currently have the above mentioned board with an 1700+ cpu running at 11*166fsb.

Only the new (as yet unreleased i think) delta k7n2's official support it. However as so many people are easily reaching 200 fsb you should be able to overclock the motherboard to the chips stock speeds. Only problem with this is if msi do not realease a bios with fsbs greater than 200 youll only be able to overclock the new athlons by the multiplier alone.

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Having searched for this common problem I have purchased a new PSU (Antec True Power 2 550w) so I don't think it is this. The memory is meant to be compatible according to the crucial site too.
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Error code 0000000a, parameter1 ffe00124, parameter2 00000002, parameter3 00000001, parameter4 804db848.
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1. The case temp is very high, under idle CPU = 48C and case = 41C, under stress CPU = 58C and case = 51C. I have two 120mm case fans and the PSU has a 120mm fan too. My hard disks are 28C and 29C. When I had the ASRock board in the same case with the same fans etc it never went above 36C (which I thought was still quite high).
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I recently purchesed a MSI K7N2-L Delta motherboard, AMD Athlon 2800+ 333Mhz FSB Barton, 512MB Corsair Value Select PC3200 Ram, ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB, Iceberg Chipset kit, and a CoolerMaster Aero 7 Lite CPU Cooler. I was able to overclock the machine to the following without any problems:
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512 MB PC3200 Corsair Value Select RAM
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120 GB Maxtor 7200RPM w/ 8MB Cache
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Signed,
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Yepp, it does not have the 1/5 divider, similar to the KT3 Ultra-ARU. But the Ultra-ARU is often reportet to run at FSB166, but it is not official
CPU list:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=357
misc page:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=357
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i have recently bought an MSI K7N2G, which with the unlocked 1700TBred, on a multi of 9.5 sits at 200MHz CAS2 with my Corsair Twinx PC3200.
This is lovely - but i would love to push my memory even higher - in sync with the CPU.
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CL2 RAM at 200Mhz FSB
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1333FSB would be hardware overclocking for this chipset.
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If you need Penryn support I believe the VRMs must be modified but I would have no idea if P975X PUP would support that.
If you need newer CPU support best thing to do is upgrade your board and sell your old board+cpu as a kit of some kind.
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Taken from P5W DH Deluxe FAQ
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My motherboard has been listed on ASUS CPU support list as being able to support FSB1333 processors.
However, after checking Intel website, the north bridge chipset only suppose to support up to FSB1066.
Does this mean there is going to be some limitation to its FSB1333 support?
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Yes, as the FSB1333 support was implmented based on overclocking north bridge chipset from FSB1066 mode,
while chipset does not support asynchronous frequency adjustment between FSB and RAM,
the supported memory specification will differ as compare with its natively supported FSB settings, in order to keep the same FSB/RAM frequency ratio.
For P965 chipsets, under FSB1333 mode, memory can only operate under the following frequencies:
Originally DDR2-533 will become 533MHz*1333/1066 = 667MHz
Originally DDR2-667 will become 667MHz*1333/1066 = 833MHz
Originally DDR2-800 will become 800MHz*1333/1066 = 1000MHz
As for 975X chipsets:
Originally DDR2-533 will become 533MHz*1333/1066 = 667MHz
Originally DDR2-667 will become 667MHz*1333/1066 = 833MHz
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It is adviceable to adjust memory timing and its supply voltage manually if desired memory frequency cannot be achieved.

KT3V highest stable FSB

Please, share your experiences. Give the highest FSB you've achieved with this mainboard.

This board works with dividers to estimate the PCI clock. At 182/185MHz is still the 1/5 working, so the PCI clock is way to high. I do not know, if the board has an 1/6 divider for 200MHz FSB, but I doubt it, so a lot more than 175MHz is not possible.
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