2010 MBP battery life (and hot power pack)

Hi All.
2010 MBP here and I am finally getting around to troubleshooting very short - like 2 hour - battery life. The battery pack gets /very/ hot as well. I do let it run down to nothing once in awhile.
Supposedly (acconrding to experts on the list) the fact that the MBP gets /very/ hot to the touch on the bottom is not an issue based on the specs I posted (I forget the name of the software I used to generate these specs).
Can anyone help me with whether I should bring this in or if there is anything I can do to troubleshoot this further? I basically can't take if from my office to the living room without bringing the charger which is sort of annoying.
Can anyone offer this new mac user any help while I reasearch this further...?
- Jon

best bet is apple store. they will help you fix the problems you are having with your mac. It may also help if you don't run intens applications which use a lot of CPU and RAM. also running a lot of apps at once drains battery and strains the computer. Macs tend to get hot because of the aluminum, but it keeps the internal components cool. Battery life, I cannot help you there. Let me know if that was helpful

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