2133 MHz ram on 890FXA-GD70

This is my first build and I was wondering if it would be worth getting some DDR3 2133 for my 890FXA-GD70. According to the specs it supports up to 2 sticks at this speed correct? Is it reasonable to achieve 2133 MHz on air?
Thanks for you help, its much appreciated.

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Is it reasonable to achieve 2133 MHz on air?
I don't believe RAM heat is going to be much of an issue, but the limitation of the CPU you choose may be. The experienced AMD guys can probably advise on that. This should apply to both Intel & AMD though, but I have found getting RAM rated high like yours has benefits in the practical speeds. As an example, I can get 2000's running at 1600 on 1.55V's, CR 1T, 7 7 7 19 tRFC 50 with '0' problems. Again, it may be the CPU that limits what you can run stable, as well as to the RAM quality itself.

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Hello .. I'm planning to buy a new PC based on AMD Thuban platform & MSI 890FXA-GD70 Mobo.
but have a problem deciding what RAM i should buy, i already read memory test report from 890FXA-GD70 page and yet i'm still confused
First, i'm interested to buy Corsair Dominator 2x2GB CMP4GX3M2B1600C8, this RAM tested for AMD system but have a 1600MHz speed (which only supported by this MoBo at OC, i have read some topics that at BIOS this memory will downgrade to 1333.) is it will cause some stability issues so i have to choose a 1333MHz RAM instead?
Secondly, i'm confused about the max. memory supported by AMD (& this MoBo). if i'm using 2 slots (dual channel 2x2GB 1600 or 1333) RAM now, can i add a second dual channel RAM in the future, so i can have a 4x2GB RAM?
sorry for my bad English (I'm from Indonesia) and any help would be appreciated ..

thanks Svet.
okay, i'm gonna ask about this test report http://eu.msi.com/uploads/test_report/TR10_2025.pdf
there's a couple of memory modules listed under "DDR III DDR-1600 oc" that only checked for 2 DIMMs for this MoBo, not 4 DIMMs like 1333 list.
so considering what's written on that sticky thread, is it safe to run 4 DIMMs of DDR-1600 on this MoBo, especially for Corsair memory i mentioned before? either overclocking my system for 'true' 1600 speed or just leave it on 1333, . thanks for your reply.

890fxa-gd70 16gb ram issue

I just bought 4x4gb corsair vengeance ram and I cannot get the pc to boot. If I only install 2 sticks in dimm1 and dimm3 its fine but nothing when all 4 sticks are in. I tested all the sticks with memtest and they all passed so I know the ram is good. Any suggestions?
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Here is the link to newegg.
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890FXA-GD70 ram sugestions

Hi,
I have a 890FXA-GD70 motherboard and I currently have OCZ Reaper DDR3 12800 2x2Gb and find myself running out of ram very fast while using lightroom and photoshop for editing images.
It dose not have to be DDR3 1600 as phenom2 only supports 1333. I've read that 1333 is mainly for 2 sticks of ram and has to be dropped down to 1066 when using 4 sticks while overclocking. That's not ideal but i'm willing to sacrifice marginal speed for more ram.
I currently do not overclock my cpu, i have however tested it and its stable at 4.0 ghz with only using the multiplier and voltages. So when it starts showing its age in a year or two I plan on overclocking it then, but do not want to have trouble with the ram when i start to overclock.
I would like to put 4x4 (16Gb) of ram into my pc to remedy me running out of ram while using editing programs. The reason i would like to use 16Gb is because i recently put together a panoramic image in photoshop with only 6 pictures, and soon as it started compiling them the ram usage just shot up like a rocket, and i plan on using 20 or more images on other pano's.
Some suggestions of 1333+ DDR3 4x4Gb (matched sets only plz) that would complement my board would really help me out.
Below is the set i was looking at, but was informed that it was for intel only, not really sure what the difference may be but.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145312
Rest of my system specs:
Motherboard - MSI 890FXA-GD70
Processor - Phenom II X6 1090T
CPU Cooelr - Corsair H50
Memory - OCZ Reaper DDR3 12800 2x2Gb
Video Card(s) - (2) Sapphire 1Gb 4850's
Hard Drive - Samsung 500Gb F1 / 1Tb F3
Power Supply - 700w OCZ Stealth Xtreme
Thank you very much.

Quote from: Bas on 13-November-10, 02:23:14
Duh = Intel memory.
Do not go there!
It may fail.
I would use 2 of these kits: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095
Cheaper too
Yeah, I noticed that as well, so i went over to the ocz site to check on it.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/desktop-memory/ddr3/enthusiasts/reaper-hpc-series/reaper-hpc--small----dual-channel-ddr3/ocz-ddr3-pc3-10666-reaper-cl9-edition-low-voltage-dual-channel.html
It said they Qualified on AMD 7 Series and 8 Series Chipsets, X4/X6 CPU
I'm currently using a set that sais something similar on newegg but have never had an issue with them, even when overclocking.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227574
Good looking out tho

890FXA-GD70 - what bios settings for RAM

I have a 890FXA-GD70 mb and some GSkill dual channel memory with latency of CL7-7-7-21 at 1.5v.
Specifically, what bios settings do I change to properly use this memory?
thx

Quote from: camphill on 19-April-11, 06:16:34
I have a 890FXA-GD70 mb and some GSkill dual channel memory with latency of CL7-7-7-21 at 1.5v.
Specifically, what bios settings do I change to properly use this memory?
thx
Need more information pertaining to the issue at hand, does the PC have problems booting or stability issues or does it run no problems at all?
From whats in your sig it seems you have some OCZ unless that is incorrect? What is the issue at hand?
For dual channel, put the two sticks of ram into color matched DIMM's closest to the CPU, 1&2 for AMD boards as far as I know.

890FXA-GD70 problems with 4 stick of ram

I just built a new rig around the 890FXA-GD70 MB and everything is going great except I have major stability problems with 4 sticks of Ram installed. I purchased 4 sticks of G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 from Newegg. The PC will boot fine with all 4 sticks installed and Windows 7 recognizes them but I have a lot of application crashes. No BSOD so far but very frequent app problems. Even the windows event viewer keeps crashing while trying to troubleshoot. I removed two of the sticks and everything has been rock solid. Anyone else successfully running 4 sticks in this board or have any suggestions to stabilize? I'm not trying to overclock anything at the moment.
thanks,

I had similar issues with BSOD. I thought it might be my RAM. I tried all kinds of different settings. Tested it in another system. It worked flawlessly and passed all memtests. I took that RAM and the RAM from the other system (a DELL from work) home. Tried the Dell RAM out and no post. Tried one stick in DIMM2 and it worked stably and then tried two sticks and it worked stably. I then tried my memory (ADATA). I got one BSOD, but ran several memtests and burnin tests over the next 5 or 6 hours. No more issues. SWEET. Reinstalled windows. Ran great for 4 or 5 days and then got more BSOD. I contacted MSI support and on two separate occasions they suggested I RMA the board. I returned the board and got a different one. I've been happy since (no issues whatsoever). I even bought two more sticks of RAM. I'm just saying - maybe it's not your RAM. I can't say for certain that the 890FXA-GD70 was defective. It may just need more BIOS updates. Frustrating to say the least. I feel your pain.
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I am a professional network administrator and have been building my own computers since 2002. However, am not a gamer and have never over clocked anything. I just built a new rig based on the on a MSI 890FXA-GD70 mobo and an AMD 1090T processor. The mobo supported 1600, 1800, and 2000 speeds of over clocked DDR3 1333 RAM. I purchased 2 2GB sticks of Corsair Dominator CMP4GX3M2A1600C8 RAM because it was supposed to be able to handle being OCed to 1600 with no problems. My system is running great but it automatically detects the RAM as 1333 MHz with timings of 9-9-9-24 instead of the advertised 1600 with 8-8-8-24. I went into the BIOS and manually set the timings to 8-8-8-24 and it worked fine. I then set the ratio from Auto to 1/4 which showed the speed of the RAM at 1600 MHz. However, when I told it to save the setting and reboot it would not come up at all. The only way to recover my system was to use the jumpers on the mobo to reset the CMOS back to its original settings. From everything I've read it's easy to set the RAM to 1600. Both my mobo and the RAM are advertised by the manufacturer as supporting 1600 DDR3. I would appreciate any advice anyone has. Specific settings for my mobo would be appreciated. My system is fine the way it is but I paid extra to have certified 1600 MHz RAM and would like to be able to use it at that speed. Thanks in advance.

Mobilebyrd,
I received a personal message from you with the question below but for some reason my account won't let me send personal messages or view to profile to get your e-mail address. Hopefully you will get this. Please post a reply to this forum if you have any more questions. Hopefully it will help others how are having the same problem. I have posted the question and answer. Please keep in mind that the settings I used are for the Corsair Dominator RAM that is approved to go to 1800 MHz. You settings may be different but this is how you change them. Also some of the settings have to be made individually for each stick of ram while others apply to all sticks. I am not familiar with the setting for TC but assume that is the same as CAS since that's the only one missing and it's in the same order. The timings on the RAM like 8-8-8-24 are in order of CAS, tRCD, tRP, and tRAS. They are also in that same order in the BIOS.
Q: I saw where you had successfully overclocked your memory inside the BIOS. I have looked at the manual for the board but have not been able to figure out how to input the changes for the memory. Can you supply a step by step for accessing the Cell Menu and then accessing the Ram's TC, TRCD, TRP, etc. I have figured out how to change the command rate and can see the aforementioned timings but have not been able to determine where I go to change them.
A: To Overclock Memory from 1333 to 1600
Go to Cell Menu
Advanced DRAM Configuration (press enter to go into sub menu)
Change each option below by hitting enter on default setting (auto) and using up and down arrows to select new setting then hit enter to select it.
DRAM Timing Mode: Both
CAS: 8
tRCD: 8
tRP: 8
tRAS: 24 *highlight Auto and use + and – buttons to change
(must change for each stick of RAM individually)
ESC to exit sub menu
Under Advanced DRAM Configuration select FSB/DRAM Ratio
FSB/DRAM Ratio: 1/4 (for 1600 MHz RAM)
Command Rate: Auto
Scroll down further in the menu until you get to voltages
DRAM Voltage: 1.651 *highlight
Options are grayed out, you must select Auto and use + and – buttons to change value then push enter to select.
Spread Spectrum: Enable
After making these changes and it's working I recommend backing up your BIOS settins to a USB device from the M-Flash menu. I would also recommend backing up your working BIOS before making these changes in case it won’t book after you change the RAM settings. In my case I didn’t change the RAM voltage and it wouldn’t boot so I had to use the reset jumper on the Mobo to set it back to factory settings. I then had to reconfigure everything else that I had already done.
Save and Exit

Msi 890fxa-gd70 posting problems

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i have tried that also, the main problem is that i cant get it past code 38 with an usb keyboard in it so that i can enter the bios. i can get it to cycle through and not hang, but that is without any keyboard or Hdd so im back at square one. i still need to try an PS/2 keyboard but finding one is actually harder than i thought it would be. this board hasn't have a bios update, it came with 1.6 already on it. its not even an month old yet. but thank you for an possible answer to this dilemma.

MSI 890FXA-GD70 temperatures issue

I carefully read those topics where there are problems with the motherboard specified, to find an answer to my problems but were not advertised until now.
These are:
A. JMicron controller temperature is very high, very hot to the touch (I use an ATA100 HDD WDC);
Two. any USB storage temperature is very high since its introduction in USB ports.
I mention that I had these problems right from the start.
However, I managed some good results enough Ock (CPUz @ 3900 MHz FSB @ 296MHz) to realize that my motherboard properly respond to tasks.
If the first problem concerns me in terms of overclocking that I am going to apply it (although tensions on the controller are not affected directly), the second issue is worrying because I have never met before on other boards.
My configuration is on MSI benchtable :
CPU: AMD Sempron 140 (or Athlon X2 4400 after ock) with Thermaltake Frio
MB: MSI 890FXA-GD70, latest BIOS (v1.13)
RAM: ADATA 1600G 4GB @ 1333MHz, CL 9-9-9-24
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Quote from: Jack on 23-February-12, 00:28:18
Mh, the only way electric devices can warm up is because they are supplied with power (Voltage x amperage). Amperage is nothing the board can control. The devices will pretty much suck what they need to work. So, basically, you need to measure the USB output voltage on the board side with a volt/multimeter to find out if anything unusual comes up.
The board can't "heat up" the devices any other way.
he is right! without exact heat levels its not possible from just saying something is getting hot to determin if something is wrong without actual data of any kind (heat or there power draw).
it might be that the other system you tested the devices on couldnt supply enougth ampage to the devices so the usb devices in question would just bottleneck there speed staying very cool as its running slower! usb 3.0 devices tend to pull more then an old style usb2.0 device but pull a lower ampage by restricting there speed to funcion without erroring data in a lower ampage port!
the heat may just be a byproduct of running at there native speed with no ristrictions placed on them! without a comparable system capable of loading the device at its maximum load it can draw its hard to say for sure if anything is wrong at all (just doesnt sound normal if your other system is capable of pushing maximum load into them)!

Noob assistance MSI 890FXA-GD70 recommendation

I am building a new computer mainly to play Eve Online and surf the web/homework blah blah blah. I picked this board (MSI 890FXA-GD70) and would like some assistance in picking the ram and if possible some input as to what i have chosen would be nice. I am unsure about buying ram for this board i dont plan on overclocking so i was going to get the 1333mhz but i was wondering if it would be a bad idea to get the 2133 1800 or 1600 ram even though I wont be setting it up for OC. although i say im not going to OC i like having the option maybe one day down the road i will. also this is not a mobo question but the game i play eve online requires atleast shader 3 for video and i dont see anything on the details for the video cards i was looking at about shader models so if you guys could take a look at what i have picked out for my new build and some input on my choices would be greatly appreciated.
MOBO - MSI 890FXA-GD70 AM3 AMD 890FX
Processor - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz
Video Card - GIGABYTE GV-R687OC-1GD Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
plan is to use onboard audio unless you guys talk me into getting a card and will be getting SSD maybe about 80gb to run windows/eve with another prolly WD blue for storage. And I will be getting aftermarket fan(s). this will be my first build so any input is appreciated. thx

There are so many correct, good choices.. you are asking for what we like. That can become a big list of answers that only confuse you. Compatibility... stability.. these are the important parts. If you go to the MSI website and look up your board, there is a list of tested memory, videocards and more. The CPU's are standard memory 1333. Anything else is an overclocking question. MSI did not test every available sold product on the market. The list is only the ones they did test. You will have to use possible other reference points if you want something not on their list.
The equipment you have listed for an opinion, are compatible. I would find it hard to believe the 6870 doesn't give you the shaders you want for your game. The card is loaded with great video graphic adjustable abilities. There is no Power Supply listed, get a good one. 500w ... more. Your videocard lists the minimum voltage requirement. You want a power supply with the amps you need.. not just wattage. Do some reading, you will pick a good one. Module Power supplies with removable wires can offer better ventilation, by not blocking air way with wires. But some of the good power supplies have all attached wire sets.
That's it for me. Unless you want to know if I like 'A' over 'B', and on-line reviews and other research can guide your buying decisions from there. I looks like you, with a good PSU and a good air flow case, your on your way. That will give you the start you want to use your PC and you can grow from there. Unless you have deep pockets, and then you can just go for it now. Oh yea... a Soundcard can't hurt. But the sound on the board is good.
Good Luck.

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I have swapped power supplies. I have swapped identical RAM. I have swapped video cards. I have used Ultimate Boot CD to run Memtest and other stress tests and everything passes with flying colors. BIOS is loaded with defaults fail safe. RAID array is created using all defaults for a RAID 0. Everything points to SSD firmware or other issues. Maybe RAID 0 with 2 Intel 510's using a AMD SB850 is not supported? Firmware versions on the 510's are both PPG4 which is the latest. Am I doing something wrong? Anyone have any ideas? I am very disappointed that that I can not get my RAID 0 stable. BTW I am doing no overclocking etc. Hardware and errors follow. Thanks!
Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.12.0002.633 AMD64 Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Loading Dump File [D:\Kingston\BSODDmpFiles\chapmunger\Windows_NT6_BSOD_jcgriff2\031112-15210-01.dmp] Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols Executable search path is: Windows 7 Kernel Version 7601 (Service Pack 1) MP (6 procs) Free x64 Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS Built by: 7601.17640.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506 Machine Name: Kernel base = 0xfffff800`02c5a000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`02e9f670 Debug session time: Sun Mar 11 00:13:13.124 2012 (UTC - 6:00) System Uptime: 0 days 0:04:46.289 Loading Kernel Symbols ....................................... ........................ ....................................... ......................... .............................. Loading User Symbols Loading unloaded module list ....... ******************************************************************************* * * * Bugcheck Analysis * * * ******************************************************************************* Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information. BugCheck D1, {fffff88001308c08, 2, 8, fffff88001308c08} Probably caused by : Ntfs.sys ( Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+2bf0 ) Followup: MachineOwner --------- 4: kd> !analyze -v ******************************************************************************* * * * Bugcheck Analysis * * * ******************************************************************************* DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1) An attempt was made to access a pageable (or completely invalid) address at an interrupt request level (IRQL) that is too high. This is usually caused by drivers using improper addresses. If kernel debugger is available get stack backtrace. Arguments: Arg1: fffff88001308c08, memory referenced Arg2: 0000000000000002, IRQL Arg3: 0000000000000008, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation Arg4: fffff88001308c08, address which referenced memory Debugging Details: ------------------ READ_ADDRESS: GetPointerFromAddress: unable to read from fffff80002f09100 fffff88001308c08 CURRENT_IRQL: 2 FAULTING_IP: Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+2bf0 fffff880`01308c08 55 push rbp CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1 DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT BUGCHECK_STR: 0xD1 PROCESS_NAME: explorer.exe TRAP_FRAME: fffff8800a580fb0 -- (.trap 0xfffff8800a580fb0) NOTE: The trap frame does not contain all registers. Some register values may be zeroed or incorrect. rax=fffff88001308c08 rbx=0000000000000000 rcx=fffff8800a581180 rdx=fffff8800a582770 rsi=0000000000000000 rdi=0000000000000000 rip=fffff88001308c08 rsp=fffff8800a581148 rbp=fffff8800a581280 r8=fffff8800a581900 r9=fffff8800a581280 r10=fffff8800a582970 r11=fffff8800a5811b8 r12=0000000000000000 r13=0000000000000000 r14=0000000000000000 r15=0000000000000000 iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz na pe nc Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+0x2bf0: fffff880`01308c08 55 push rbp Resetting default scope LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from fffff80002cd61e9 to fffff80002cd6c40 FAILED_INSTRUCTION_ADDRESS: Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+2bf0 fffff880`01308c08 55 push rbp STACK_TEXT: fffff880`0a580e68 fffff800`02cd61e9 : 00000000`0000000a fffff880`01308c08 00000000`00000002 00000000`00000008 : nt!KeBugCheckEx fffff880`0a580e70 fffff800`02cd4e60 : 00000000`000000e9 00000000`00000000 fffff800`02ce1845 fffff880`01269840 : nt!KiBugCheckDispatch+0x69 fffff880`0a580fb0 fffff880`01308c08 : fffff800`02d02a7c 00000000`00000001 fffffa80`09667000 fffffa80`08c92d01 : nt!KiPageFault+0x260 fffff880`0a581148 fffff800`02d02a7c : 00000000`00000001 fffffa80`09667000 fffffa80`08c92d01 fffffa80`08d1aea0 : Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+0x2bf0 fffff880`0a581150 fffff800`02d024fd : fffff880`01269834 fffff880`0a582770 00000000`00000000 fffff880`01219000 : nt!_C_specific_handler+0x8c fffff880`0a5811c0 fffff800`02d012d5 : fffff880`01269834 fffff880`0a581238 fffff880`0a5820a8 fffff880`01219000 : nt!RtlpExecuteHandlerForException+0xd fffff880`0a5811f0 fffff800`02d12361 : fffff880`0a5820a8 fffff880`0a581900 fffff880`00000000 ffff5fff`ffffffff : nt!RtlDispatchException+0x415 fffff880`0a5818d0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiDispatchException+0x135 STACK_COMMAND: kb FOLLOWUP_IP: Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+2bf0 fffff880`01308c08 55 push rbp SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 3 SYMBOL_NAME: Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+2bf0 FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner MODULE_NAME: Ntfs IMAGE_NAME: Ntfs.sys DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 4d79997b FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0xD1_CODE_AV_BAD_IP_Ntfs!_??_::NNGAKEGL::_string_+2bf0 BUCKET_ID: X64_0xD1_CODE_AV_BAD_IP_Ntfs!_??_::NNGAKEGL::_string_+2bf0 Followup: MachineOwner ---------
Loading Dump File [D:\Kingston\BSODDmpFiles\chapmunger\Windows_NT6_BSOD_jcgriff2\031012-22963-01.dmp] Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols Executable search path is: Windows 7 Kernel Version 7600 MP (6 procs) Free x64 Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS Built by: 7600.16841.amd64fre.win7_gdr.110622-1503 Machine Name: Kernel base = 0xfffff800`0285a000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`02a97e70 Debug session time: Sat Mar 10 22:15:14.047 2012 (UTC - 6:00) System Uptime: 0 days 0:02:55.014 Loading Kernel Symbols ....................................... ........................ ....................................... ......................... ............. Loading User Symbols Loading unloaded module list ..... ******************************************************************************* * * * Bugcheck Analysis * * * ******************************************************************************* Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information. BugCheck F4, {3, fffffa8009348b30, fffffa8009348e10, fffff80002bd2300} Probably caused by : hardware_disk Followup: MachineOwner --------- 3: kd> !analyze -v ******************************************************************************* * * * Bugcheck Analysis * * * ******************************************************************************* CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION (f4) A process or thread crucial to system operation has unexpectedly exited or been terminated. Several processes and threads are necessary for the operation of the system; when they are terminated (for any reason), the system can no longer function. Arguments: Arg1: 0000000000000003, Process Arg2: fffffa8009348b30, Terminating object Arg3: fffffa8009348e10, Process image file name Arg4: fffff80002bd2300, Explanatory message (ascii) Debugging Details: ------------------ PROCESS_OBJECT: fffffa8009348b30 IMAGE_NAME: hardware_disk DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0 FAULTING_MODULE: 0000000000000000 PROCESS_NAME: csrss.exe EXCEPTION_RECORD: fffff88001ed8b78 -- (.exr 0xfffff88001ed8b78) ExceptionAddress: 0000000077514e8f ExceptionCode: c0000006 (In-page I/O error) ExceptionFlags: 00000000 NumberParameters: 3 Parameter[0]: 0000000000000000 Parameter[1]: 000007fefd47d8a8 Parameter[2]: 00000000c000000e Inpage operation failed at 000007fefd47d8a8, due to I/O error 00000000c000000e EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000006 - The instruction at 0x%p referenced memory at 0x%p. The required data was not placed into memory because of an I/O error status of 0x%x. CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1 DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT CURRENT_IRQL: 0 ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000006 - The instruction at 0x%p referenced memory at 0x%p. The required data was not placed into memory because of an I/O error status of 0x%x. EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1: 0000000000000000 EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2: 000007fefd47d8a8 EXCEPTION_PARAMETER3: 00000000c000000e IO_ERROR: (NTSTATUS) 0xc000000e - A device which does not exist was specified. EXCEPTION_STR: 0xc0000006_c000000e FAULTING_IP: +23a 00000000`77514e8f ?? ??? BUGCHECK_STR: 0xF4_IOERR_C000000E FOLLOWUP_IP: +23a 000007fe`fd47d8a8 ?? ??? FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner MODULE_NAME: hardware_disk STACK_COMMAND: kb FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0xF4_IOERR_C000000E_IMAGE_hardware_ disk BUCKET_ID: X64_0xF4_IOERR_C000000E_IMAGE_hardware_ disk

Thanks for the help! It is appreciated. Power supply is Antec 380W. I have tried swapping out with identical one - both were brand new and I have had pretty good luck with Antec in the past so I kind of doubt that's it. Wish it was so easy! The machine is on a good line interactive UPS as well so power fluctuations are not causing this.
I am using the hardware RAID on the SB850 - it requires loading the latest driver from USB during installation. But prior to that it requires a Ctrl-F and into the RAID setup. I choose RAID 0 and then select both Intel 510 120GB SATA III. The two SSD have the exact same firmware which is the latest per Intel Website.
Drivers are the latest for Win7x64 from here:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/890FXA-GD70.html#/?div=Driver&os=Vista%2064
This problem is posted in two other spots - Intel Forums and Windows Seven Forums
http://communities.intel.com/thread/28220?tstart=0
http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/218850-bsod-msi-890fxa-gd70-w-2xintel-ssd-520-120gb-ssd-raid-0-a.html
No one has been able to solve it yet. Seems like MSI and Intel are both good companies but these products are not compatible in the configuration I am attempting.

Code FF :( Please Help MSI 890FXA-GD70

Specs:
MSI 890FXA-GD70 AM3+ AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
EVGA GeForce GTX460 1 GB Superclocked GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card -
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB Bulk/OEM Hard Drive 3.5 Inch, 32 MB Cache, 7200 RPM SATA II
Corsair - Gaming Series 700-Watt ATX CPU Power Supply
I had everything working for 8 months or so then everything suddenly went bonkers....my cpu wouldn't start up. I replaced my PSU and took everything apart and I had it working outside of my case for 2 weeks and then it decided not to start up again.....I resat all components with no luck.
I RMA'd my motherboard to MSI and had it swapped out. Now....I went to reseat everything and like an idiot; I had spilled excess arctic silver 5 onto the mainboard socket and the PCU. I cleaned everything best I could without any solution and tried to start it up; CODE FF (only using 1 stick of ram and video card).
I did some reading and picked up some loctite electrical cleaner http://www.rshughes.com/products/079340_1174633.html
and cleaned everything out. I used a fine brush to clean out the socket.
Now; I installed pcu; heat sink; 1 stick ram (tried all slots) video card. I also made sure my power connections were hooked up---pcu and mainboard---I still get a code FF immediately..no post; nothing. Every time it goes to code FF and nothing else. Fans run and the all lights on the motherboard light up...the PCU lights are on as well. (all 4)
I've tried every solution I've read on this board and whatever google could find for me....my questions is (sorry for long story); should I just replace my PCU and motherboard as I messed it up with the arctic 5?
Thanks for any insight!

Quote from: Scrumhalf01 on 29-February-12, 22:57:23
Don't have the spare parts or I would have done that.....do computer shops willingly let you test out pieces you bring in to their shops? If there was an issue with the motherboard could it fry the new pcu installed?
Quote from: Scrumhalf01 on 29-February-12, 22:57:23
Don't have the spare parts or I would have done that.....do computer shops willingly let you test out pieces you bring in to their shops?
yes eventually, you have to ask them
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If there was an issue with the motherboard could it fry the new pcu installed?
yes its possible

890FXA-GD70 bios update via Live Updat & now won't load windows...help pls

Hi There
First off, please excuse the fact that I am not very experienced with the tech aspects of a home build (which this is & I bought off the builder), or any build for that matter..
I was getting a 'keyboard/interface' press f1 to continue error message, when I started my computer, along with most of the usb ports not working when windows 7 ultimate (64) sp1 (build 7601) loads.
Otherwise it was working fine..
So I deceided to follow the instructions of the Live Update tool & used the total installer to update the bios from American Megatrends V1.10 06/30/2011 to the latest bios. I know now that wasn't very wise (why is it even an option if it can do soooo much harm?).
After it updated the bios there was a question (which I don't recall of course), something about ROM I think and not being the same, with 3 choices to correct it and I'm pretty sure I went with the 1st option for it to be corrected.
So now when I turn the computer on it starts loading everything (I can get in to the bios setup), right after it shows the windows logo it flashes a blue screen with some type on it & goes to windows startup repair which of course doesn't help & tries to do a system recovery which also doesn't work.
I don't want to do any more damage by fiddling around with things I know little about.
I was encouraged to read in one of the post answers that if it gets to the point where Windows goes to load than the mobo is ok...hopefully!
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Specs: (Copied from a Belarc Advisor scan)
O/S Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
Main Board: 890FXA-GD70, Bus Clock: 200 megahertz BIOS: American Megatrends V1.10 06/30/2011
Processor: 3.30 gigahertz AMD Phenom II X 6 1100T Multi Core Not hyper-threaded
Drive: ST3500418AS Hard drive 500 gig SMART Status: Healthy
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24LS50 ATA Device (optical drive)
Optiarc DVD RW AD-728OS ATA Device (optical drive)
PSU: Corsair GS500
12 gigs of RAM 1. 2048, 2. 2048, 3. 4096 4. 4096
Display adapter: MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5
Local Drive Volumes: c: (NTFS on drive 0)
Hopefully that is the required info on the specs.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Rob

yes the BIOS controls the CMOS from that User interface with all the settings menus!
and yes its in there where you can see what Drive mode its set at!
if its using the older style BIOS like my board has and not a UEFI then in this heading set:
1: go into your BIOS (press Delete)
2: Integrated Perifirals
3: On-Chip ATA Devices
4: Raid Mode <--- the options for that should be in there if its the same and may have been set to IDE mode before the update but may be set to AHCI now after you flashed the BIOS via live update which is more then likely why your getting a BSOD as it in the wrong operating mode!

My 890FXA-GD70 FF story

890FXA-GD70 (used via eBay; unboxing seemed as if new)
all new:
AMD Sempron 145 CPU
Corsair AX1200 PSU
Corsair CMX4GX3M1A1333C9 1x4G DDR3 1333MHz PC3-10666
ATI Radeon HD 5970 GDU
Seagate Barracuda 7200 500 GB SATA ST500DM002
The board came with BIOS 1.9; I M-flashed it to 1.C (yes, I know M-flash is deprecated here, but I have no OS CD/DVD, only an OS USB and USB was not a boot option with 1.9; and I had the FF problem before the M-flash).
The unit consistently fails to boot, with no display output and FF in the debug LEDs, under the following conditions; in all instances, PSU 1/0 switch is in the 1 (on) position and power is controlled via the mainboard Power button: brief touch for on, extended touch for off:
--cold power-on;
--power-on within 2-5 minutes of system shut-down (from within OS) or power-off (Power button).
The unit starts up OK
--if left in the "FF" state for at least 2-5 minutes, then powered off via the onboard Power button, then immediately powered on via that button;
--if system restarted from within OS.
Note that if the system is shut down via OS command and then immediately after the board goes dark and fans stop power is re-applied, it will go into and remain in "FF" mode. This is why I don't think it's a temperature issue.
I have many times checked CPU and power connecter seatings, reset CMOS, checked RAM seating, moved RAM to DIMM slot 4 (as a test; its "home" is slot 1 nearest CPU).
When the system does start up OK, there are no apparent problems and it will stay up "forever." The OS is Ubuntu 10.04.
I have reviewed all 11 threads that forum search returned for this board with both terms "890FXA-GD70" and "FF"; almost all end with advice to RMA the board, although there are a few success stories; one that I recall was via RAM stick replacement. (I have new Kingston 2x2G RAM arriving tomorrow.)

Quote from: Fredrik on 15-December-11, 21:03:31
Okey, then try please setting the memory speed down. I do believe you have bad talk between processor and memory. The processor may be the bad part, but more common are bad memory sticks.
I looked at the manual with particular attention to "Advance [sic] DRAM Configuration", but I still don't know which BIOS setting that is.
P.S. I have new Kingston RAM, 2x2G, arriving later today; Kingston's web site says its compatible with this mainboard.

What could cause "2A" code on 890FXA-GD70 mainboard?

My MSI 890FXA-GD70 now stalls at the point where it displays the code "2A." Can someone describe the possible cause(s) of the mainboard stalling at "2A"?
I even contacted MSI and received a refurbished mainboard, which I installed this weekend but it presents the same error.
I observe that all other lights and all fans appear to be working just fine, but I never see any video at any point (no MSI splash screen, no BIOS, etc.) during the brief boot process before it reaches the "2A" display.
I have tried two different PCI-Express video cards and neither one changed the mainboard's behavior of stalling at "2A."
My computer worked flawlessly for nearly three years before experiencing this problem.
Here are my PC's components:
* Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
* SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
* Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT51264BA1339
* Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT51264BA1339
* ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
* CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
* MSI 890FXA-GD70 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
* Cooler Master Hyper N520 Mirror Finished Copper Base Aluminum Fins 5 Heatpipes CPU Cooler
* AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX
* COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
* XFX HD-567X-ZNF3 Radeon HD 5670 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
I also tried swapping out the XFX video card listed above with the following, purchased new:
* SAPPHIRE 100358L Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 CrossFireX Support Video Card
In addition, I tried installing both video cards in different PCI-E slots on the mainboard, in case one of the PCI-E slots has gone bad. (I even tried booting without any video card, and did get a different code, but I can't remember what it was.)
I tried all of the troubleshooting steps described in prior threads related to the "2A" code, such as:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=145187.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=151534.0
That includes swapping out RAM sticks, including one at a time.
And I also dutifully followed all of the suggestions offered by an MSI technician by telephone.
I even plugged in different keyboards (PS/2 and USB), different mice, etc. (Grasping for anything that might present a different mainboard code at this point!) But nothing makes a difference.
Any other ideas?
Should I just request of MSI a new RMA# to get yet another refurbished mainboard? (The MSI tech I spoke to previously about this "2A" code seemed convinced it was a defective mainboard when he authorized the first RMA.)
Or should I just keep buying new video cards until I install one that works? (I only have one desktop PC with PCI-E slots, my other active desktop PC uses AGP. So I can't verify that the video card works in a different PC; I can only trust that buying a new, highly-rated video card didn't result in the bad luck of getting one that was DOA ... but I suppose theoretically that's possible, however unlikely.)
Thanks!

I'm still unable to get past this code "2A" stall. Can anyone help?
Among the troubleshooting steps I've tried since my February 24 post, none of which made any difference/improvement in the stalling at "2A":
Unplugged all SATA drives and power connections to those drives (2 hard drives and 1 CD/DVD drive) and tried to reboot. Result = stuck on "2A"
Unplugged all external peripherals (e.g., mouse, keyboard, ethernet, etc.) and tried to reboot. Result - stuck on "2A"
Unplugged all external peripherals and all SATA drives and tried to reboot. Result - stuck on "2A"
Unplugged all front panel connections - except the connection to enable the power button needed to reboot the system - and tried to reboot. Result - stuck on "2A"
Disconnected all power supply connections, except the CD/DVD drive (to put a small load on the power supply), and tested out the power supply with a volt meter (multimeter). Result = 100% of the molex, 24-pin, and other power supply wires are delivering the expected volts.
Are there any MSI representatives available who can provide more detailed information about what the "2A" code indicates?
I found the following information about code "2A," but I'm not sure whether it's applicable for my specific MSI mainboard, on a PDF provided by American Megatrends (BIOS company) titled "AMIBIOS8 Check Point and Beep Code List" from 1988:
Quote
Initialize different buses and perform the following functions: Reset, Detect, and Disable (function 0); Static Device Initialization (function 1); Boot Output Device Initialization (function 2). Function 0 disables all device nodes, PCI devices, and PnP ISA cards. It also assigns PCI bus numbers. Function 1 initializes all static devices that include manual configured onboard peripherals, memory and I/O decode windows in PCI-PCI bridges, and noncompliant PCI devices. Static resources are also reserved. Function 2 searches for and initializes any PnP, PCI, or AGP video devices.
Thanks!

2133 MHz ram on 890FXA-GD70

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