2gb ram that works w/k8n Neo2 + amd 64

Im looking at purchasing some good memory that doesnt give me the hassle that my current one does.
I have a k8n Neo2, and want to drop in 2gb of memmory. Anyone out there with the same motherboard and amd 64 processer running 2gb or more of pc400 ram? Thanks.

The Neo2 Platinum has issues with certain types of memory when all four slots are filled (typical with 2GB or greater). Read my thread for details:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=63675

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K8N Neo2 + AMD 64 3000 (939)?

Does anybody know if this combination will work - K8N Neo2 + AMD 64 3000 (939)? MSI website didn't mention anything about support for the new AMD 64 3000 (939) but AMD website does mention that the K8N Neo2 can be used.

"I dont know about you, but when I build a system I make sure everything I put in it compliments each other and brings the full potential out of each component. I would not want a brand new top of the line cpu, on an outdated board. A few years from now this system will still be good and fast, there will be no reason to disassemble it and mix and match."
I'm not saying yours won't be good and fast in 2 years.. I'm saying a socket 939 will give you the option of NOT upgrading EVERYTHING *at a later point than the 754*. the 3000 is suited perfectly to the Neo2, and so is an FX 53.. were talking about spending $20 extra to go with a more upgradable platform.
btw -the computer I'm typing on right now I built in 1999, it's a Socket A KT7A-RIAD which I initially put an athlon 900 (then unlocked and overclocked @140 mhz bus), then I upgraded to an Athlon XP 1800 when they were affordable. upped my ram to 768 megs, The most recent upgrade I made is an ASUS RADEON 9600 XT.
I can play the most graphic intensive games EG counterstrike sourse beta (half life 2), far cry, whatever I want at decent resolutions on a computer I build over 5 years ago... and did it without buying a whole new computer every 2 years.
the only reason I'm upgrading now is for decoding HDTV... other than that "mixing and matching" suits me just fine... it's part of the hobby.. not everyone can just go (or just wants to) buy a whole new computer every 2 years.. I like to tweak and overclock to keep my computer current as long as I can.. not to compare numbers with the rich kids..

Is this RAM ok for a K8N NEO2 Platinum

I am currently building a system and have got my FX-53 and K8N NEO2 Platinum but i have hit a problem in that i dont know what memory to get for it i have been looking at this http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=116120&cks=PRL
or if this is no good could some one recommned me one perhaps from this list
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/kl.asp?bn=10529

If you know very little about memory, then what it IS telling you, you won't understand. Here's a tip....on the offset, don't spend a lot of money on memory just yet. Purchase some PC3200, like Kingston KVR RAM or Kingmax...something relatively inexpensive...until you begin to understand timings and voltage adjustments. You will not have any problems with this type of memory, and usually...initial boot-up goes very smoothly.
Then, after you start to play with timings and such...when you begin to feel comfortable with making these adjustments, and you know your system is stable....then you could experiment with higher-performance RAM.
That's just how I do it..as I am conservative when first assembling a computer!
Tim186...."Welcome" to the MSI Forum. Also, check out RexB's 939 build thread...you will find good information in that!!!!

CPU cooler that works with K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI motherboard

I have read that some say the Zalman interferes on this board with the 1, and 2 ram slots, is this true? I'm using the 3500 Winchester CPU.
Does someone have a part number if the Zalman is; a) the best, and b) clears properly.
Also I see everyone talking about Artic Silver 5. What does the"5" mean? I have Artic Silver that I have been using for about 2 years, but there iis no designation "5". Do I need the new stuff?
Thanks

I don’t know muck about artic silver, but I have a comment on the cpu-cooler question.
I recently bought a K8N SLI Platinum, which has an almost identical layout as the Neo4 Platinum. I use a Termalright XP 120 cooler which according to there webpage does not fit on this board. But I didn’t had much problem at all! It is tight with the first ram slot thaw, and with a memory just a few millimetres higher than mine it wouldn’t fit (I use TwinMOS PC3200).
Unfortunately, I don’t know if it’s a similar situation with the Zalman coolers, but I really like to recommend the XP120 (or even XP80) anyway. It keeps my cpu (althorn 3000+) at almost the same temp as the sounding system, during normal use. And since you are free to put any fan you like, you have a very good start making your system really quiet.

Can't get IDE drive to work with K8N NEO2

I built my computer two months ago. The only hard drive I installed was a Samsung 160GB SATA. The Windows XP installation was flawless and the system has worked perfectly ever since.
This past week I decided to install my old Western Digital IDE hard drive. I connected it to PATA port 1 on the motherboard. It's jumpered as a Primary device and connected to the primary port on the IDE cable.
The problem is that when I boot the computer with the IDE drive connected it will hang on the gray Platinum screen for around 5 minutes. If I hit DEL and enter BIOS after 5 minutes I can see that the drive is detected and the boot order already was set for the SATA drive first and the IDE drive second. Then if I reboot it hangs on the Platinum screen again for five minutes. When it finally clears that I get messages indicating that no boot device is available. If I shut down, disconnect the IDE drive, and reboot with only the SATA drive connected it boots flawlessly.
I checked my device manager and see that the nvidia nforce3 250 Parallel ATA controller and Serial ATA controller drivers are installed.
Is there anything else I can check or do to get the computer to boot with an IDE drive connected?
Thanks!

WD drives are special compared to others .
If they are alone on the ide channel they shall not be jumpered as master .
This is only when it is sharing the channel with another ide/atapi device .
Instead the jumper shall be removed , they call it single drive jumpering (SD).
And the reason why bios get hung is :
It finds a master jumpered drive , and since it does it will try to detect the slave
but there isn't one .

Harddrive LED wont work on K8N Neo2 Platinum???

Hey guys, my system seems to be runnning perfectly fine except that all my led's seem to work except my harddrive
Now my board already came with v1.4 so i know i have the latest bios update. so any ideas on why its not working? and oh yeah, if i put the cable on backwards the light STAYS on!!!

Quote from: fafner on 18-February-05, 11:52:46
Reverse the LED jumpers on the MB. The polarity has to be correct for the LED to work.
Ok well how do i do that? i tired putting the cable on the opposite way that its suppost to go on and the light just stays on....

How to get 2 lans ports working on K8N Neo2 platinum

I can only get the one lan port working which is the realtek device. Ive tried installing drivers for the marvel lan but it doesnt show up in device manager. Can any one tell me how i get this second lan port working.

Quote from: Justmeto on 02-July-06, 05:02:54
I can only get the one lan port working which is the realtek device. Ive tried installing drivers for the marvel lan but it doesnt show up in device manager. Can any one tell me how i get this second lan port working.
The other network interface is by nVidia -- the Marvel part is just the PHY for the nForce3 NI -- and the drivers should install with the nVidia driver install. Which nVidia driver package are you using? People have had NI trouble with the 5.11 pack - personally I use the 5.10 pack with the 4.79 IDE/SATA drivers which you should be able to find here: [urlhttp://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=19[/url]. In BIOS Setup under Integrated Peripherals, what's labeled MAC Lan(nVIDIA) is the one you want to make sure is on Auto.

Game that came with k8n Neo2

I am not a gamer and my Neo2 came with a game. It says Chaos Legion on the front and Unreal tournament 2004 on the back. I am going to sell it on ebay and want to know what to list it as. Unreal tournament 2004 or Chaos Legion or what?

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Hmmm.... You must have ordered your board from zipzoomfly.
They have stuck one in my order too. My stuff won't be here until Tues. though.
Yea, zipzoomfly. So, is it 2 games or 1?
It says "Game with MSI" on it and "MSI only exclusive bundle". It's heavy so there must be alot of discs in it.

Checking ram that works with MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING Intel Z87 Motherbo

Was wondering if Vengeance pro series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 DRAM 2400MHz C10 Memory Kit (CMY16GX3M2A2400C10R) will work good on MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING Intel Z87 Motherboard or if im gonna need to do some tweeking.

Since in the components purchasing stage for the project, a few tips for you. Check with the PSU manufacturer to make sure it is Haswell compliant. I like single rail +12V PSU's made by Corsair, but there are other good ones out there too. OS is also important. I prefer Win 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, but if you go with Win 8 or 7, some GTX 780 issues may arise. GOP, VBIOS, mainboard updated to the very newest UEFI/BIOS etc. can be involved. UEFI/BIOS update is a good place to start if the graphics card gives you trouble. Research as much as you can prior to the build. Advance planning helps a lot on what to possibly expect.
Here is the thread for UEFI/BIOS's;
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=169827.0

How is Lion's performance with the baseline 13" MBA (Late 2010) 2GB RAM? I know it works fine with the baseline 11" 2GB model, but because that's a smaller machine, perhaps the 2GB limit is not so detrimental to performance. MBA 13" 1.86, 2GB/2010

How does the baseline 13" mba (late 2010, 1.86 ghz, 2GB RAM/128GB) work with OSX LIon? I know the baseline 11" is fine, but does the larger form factor of the MBA 13" require more RAM to be speedy under Lion? I wouldn't think so, but please advise. Please answer this question ONLY with refrence to the specs listed (13" MBA (late 2010, 1.86 ghz, 2GB RAM, 128gb). Thanks much!

Overy time, every PC/Mac gets unavoidably bloated with junk like unnecessary files/downloads/apps or left-over files of video-streams/uninstalled apps/caches/... which slow down the overall system. That's why PC/Mac should be formatted (=deleting everything even including the operating system) once in a while to reinstall the operating system (here: Lion) from scratch -hence "clean install". To format a Mac is pretty easy, but all of your files (e.g. images, documents,...) should be saved on external harddrives/CDs/DVDs/Flash-drives... because they are going to be deleted during the formatting.
I'm NOT going to describe you how to format, because it might not be necessary for you.
But what you NEED to do anyway is (if you want Lion):
(( 0. Eventually, but not necessarily: Make a TimeMachine-BackUp to be able to return to Snow Leopard))
1. Download Lion, BUT DON'T install it (cancel the install-process).
2. Follow the instructions on this site:
http://lifehacker.com/5823096/how-to-burn-your-own-lion-install-dvd-or-flash-dri ve
This will give you a legal copy of Lion on a DVD or Flash-Drive, which btw allows you to install it on all of your mac at home. Why do you need copy of Lion? If you encounter problems with lion after a "normal install"(=NOT formatting and NOT clean installing the operating system), you still have the option to make a clean install. A clean install can't be done without the copy of Lion on a DVD or Flash-Drive.

MSI K8N Neo2, can't install Windows

MSI K8N Neo2
Amd 64 3500+
Ocz 3700 EB 512Mb x 2 / Corsair pc4400 512Mb x 2
DDR Booster
Radeon 9600XT / GeForce Ti 4200
Audigy 2
IBM Deskstar 40Gb (My raptor is on rma r&r)
Psu Enermax 460w
The system is watercooled.
My Windows got bad after SP2 was installed so I went to reinstall Windows...
When I try to install Windows XP Pro I get Blue Screen/system freeze/black screen.
This happens soon as the cd starts to read the files/installing files after format.
I haven't been able at all to install Windows successfully (I don't even get to windows).
My system is listed above and as you can see I have tried with 2 different graphic cards, 2 different rams and with/without the booster, with/without the soundcard, 3 different dvdplayers and 3 different Windows XP Pro.
Och and yes I have tried the hardware (except mb & cpu, don't have another Amd 64 mb or cpu) in an another computer and they work fine.
Nothing works.
Could it be that the mb that is bad or?

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Originally posted by kensterman
Is your CDROM drive okay? How about the XP CD itself? Either way, it sounds like it's bombing duing the reading/ copying of the files..
I have tried with 3 different dvdrom drives and 3 different XP cd's, results are the same.

FYI: To those getting no video at all during POST on K8N Neo2 Plat

I've been racking my brain all day/night fighting my new K8N Neo2 Platinum system. I first put together a minimal system with just memory, CPU/cooler, and AGP card and powered it up to make sure it would work. Sure enough I saw the Platinum POST screen and I went into the BIOS.
I figure all is good so I turn off the system and install the rest of the components.Like so many others I powered back up to the disheartening screen of nothingness. The D-Bracket showed all 4 LEDs green so I was baffled as to the problem. I tried various forms of restart with the same result. With a sigh I began reverting my system back to the original bare bones set up. Same result...black screen. I tried various CMOS resets after reading everything I could find. New result: black screen but POST would always get stuck with D-Bracket indicating "Initializing Floppy Drive Controller".
After trying various memory configurations, various CMOS resets, various AGP graphics cards, and many other things for several hours to no avail I finally got out an ancient PCI graphics card and was finally able to get video and enter the BIOS. I selected Load Fail-Safe Defaults and made sure to select AGP for the Primary Graphic's Adapter setting. I swapped the PCI card out and the AGP card back in. Still no video on the AGP card. I put the PCI card and AGP card in together and rebooted again. PCI card has video, AGP card does not.
I still don't have my problems solved but I at least wanted to let people who are getting no video on their AGP graphics card know that they may be able to get video on a PCI graphics card. As a side effect, for whatever reason, it appears that I get fully through the POST again and the D-Bracket lights up all the LEDs.
Hope this helps someone out there who is frustrated like I am and maybe someone can figure out what's wrong with the AGP graphics.
The BIOS version is currently W7025NMS V1.3 092404 15:57:09...I'm going to work on updating that next and see if that fixed anything.
Here's my system if it would work:
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 90nm
Gigabyte 3D Cooler-ULTRA GT
OCZ 520W PowerStream
OCZ 512MB DDR400 PC3200 EL Platinum Rev. 2 (4 sticks)
BFG nVideo GeForce 6800 Ultra
I made the following substitutions to test:
OCZ DDR400 PC3200 EL Platinum Rev. 2 (1 stick in various slots, 2 sticks in various slots in single and dual channel mode)
Corsair 512MB Value Select DDR400 PC3200 (1 stick in DIMM 1 slot)
Radeon 9700 Pro (old AGP card -- didn't work any better than BFG card)
Some old PCI card -- not even sure what it is (allowed me to see what was going on!)

Nope. Cable is definately not on upside down! =)
I get the same behavior on both floppy drives I've tried. The light only comes on when it tries to access it and it reacts as though I've put in a bad floppy. Thing is the floppy works on several computers and works on one of the floppy drives I used with this system, only while it was connected to another machine.
I was able to update the bios to v1.4 without using a floppy by making a bootable CD and flashing from there. Still no go. I think at this point I'm ready to concede that I do in fact have a motherboard that has gone south. I've tried every combination of option I can think of in the BIOS but the AGP and Floppy Controller both appear to be fubar.
Still, the one good thing that came out of all this is that I found out how to make bootable CDs. I'm sure to use that little trick over and over and that may make it so I don't really need these pesky floppy drives anymore at all! I'll make a post on this so we'll soon all be floppy free! =)

MSI RAID on K8N Neo2 Motherboard - Please Help!

I need to install the windows raid drivers for this motherboard.
I have 2 x 200gb HD's both full of identical stuff (they were previously mirrored).
My drivers disks are miles away in another part of the country. I have searched the internet for hours, searched the MSI site and downloaded hundreds of drivers which claim to work, but some of them don't even run and have no instructions what-so-ever.
I have checked all the other forum posts, but can't make sense of them. I need a simple step-by-step installation guide.
Does anyone know what to do?
I would deeply appreciate some help.
Windows XP
1.5GB RAM
AMD64 3000 fx
K8N Neo2 MS 7030 Motherboard

That's much better , post a new thread and descibe your problem.
There no MSI staff here , so complaining of the product should be done through the MSI customer service www.msi.com.tw .
Before throwing up eventually right/wrong solutions for you to try please update your post with detailed spesifications of your system and components.
You say you have Neo2 and at the same time ms-7030 .
Important we get this straight in case someone recommends a certain bios update for you.
Neo2 is socket 939 dual channel motherboard and has code name ms-7025.
K8N Neo Platinum (also called neo1 after neo2 was released) has code name ms-7030 .
Witch one do you have .
Harddisks , it's known that certain new disks from maxtor with 16MB cache has problems with all nforce3/4 chipsets.
What type do you have .
Bios version ( essensial to know with what revision of nvraid.rom you used on your raid)
What version are you on , eventually what version have you updated to (if any) .
OS version are you using and what servicepack level.
What nForce chipset version you are on ( 5.03 / 5.10 /5.11 ?)
If you get winrar you can easily make a driver disk from the unified nvidia archive executable by right click on it and select extract .
Then you have the drivers under the ...\winxp2k\ide folder that can be put on a "nvide/nvraid floppy driver disk" if you like to.
Does one of your mirrored disks have errors ? , try them seperate as single disks and boot test apps etc.
If one has errors , format it and recreate the array as mirrored might be the best/easiest solution .
Don't use sata port1/2 if you overclock fsb beyond 225 , it will corrupt the disks . Use sata port 3/4 .

K8N Neo2 Driver Problem with PCI Bridge.

I updated the Bios on this machine last night to 1.04 from 1.03
K8N - Neo2
AMD 3500+ Retail Kit with Cooler
Antec True430W 3.3v/28A 5v/36A 12v/26A
OCZ 2X512 EL DDR400 PC 3200 Plat Ed Dual Channel
Seagate Barracuda 120g 7200 rpm SATA
TSST Corp DVD-ROM TS-H
ATI Radeon 9000 64mb AGP
Windows XP SP2
It started acting funny several hours after the update of the Bios, this AM it spontaneously rebooted and when it came up there was an error message about a damaged or corrupt Windows system file and suggested inserting the Windows Disk, which was done and then the system booted into windows. But the found new hardware came up and wanted driver for the PCI bridge, which I wasn't sure where it was so I let it complete without finding it and this is the error when I go to control panel/system/hardware/device mgr
Where do I get this driver? Is it on the driver disk that came with the motherboard? I don't remember having to install a driver for the PCI bridge.
thanks

OK I thought I'd post the resolution to my problem.
After my initial posts the machine not only became unstable but it wouldn't boot into windows saying there was a corrupt Windows System File.
1. It occured to me that when I downloaded the new bios and applied it that I had failed to customize the DRAM settings in the bios. This was important because when I was building the machine I couldn't get Windows XP to install it always pooped out someplace early in the install. At the time I was using default DRAM settings. But I came here and read through the forum and found a sticky at the top of the forum that had settings for a number of different memory sticks including mine. So I went back and updated my bios with those setting. Voila everything was cool and I was able to load windows and move forward. But I forgot that, and I attribute the instability of the system to that, wheter or not it was why the system eventually corrupted system board dirvers I don't know. But I did change that, as the system would boot but just not boot windows.
2. Next, I decided to attempt to repair my windows install. However first since I had already applied SP2, and my Install disk was just the plain retail without any Service Packs. I decided to make a new bootable install disk with SP2 slipstreamed into it so when I repaired I wouldn't have to reapply SP2. Here's the method that I used.
http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsXP/winxp-sp2-bootcd.html
3. Utilized the windows repair feature of windows setup.
4. That worked my computer now booted into windows and I didn't lose data or configurations....whew!!
5. I still how ever was stuck with the original problem that started this thread..rats!! I thought SP2 would fix that.
6. I tried several times to get XP to update the driver, but I couldn't. I even tried to select the driver from the list that is one of the optioins when you are updating drivers. I found some but I wasn't sure which one that had PCI bridge in it was the right one. But the fact that when I was looking at the list of mfg only Compaq and NVidia were available. So a light bulb went off and opened up MSI Live and looked at what was available in drivers, and sure enought there was a NVida driver. So I figured I have nothing to lose.
7. Next I downloaded the latest NVida nForce3 system driverfrom MSI and applied.
8. Bingo that worked, no more yellow ?'s in my hardware list.
Machine working fine now. Still don't know if failing to insert the proper DRAM stuff caused this but it all started with the new bios so I am assuming it had some part.

Boot failure - k8n neo2 plat

Hi, I'm having trouble
Just purchased an MSI k8n neo2 plat mobo with an amd 64 3000+ and finally got her all setup... well minus the geforce 6600 gt arriving tomorrow and I still need to figure out what I'll do as far as memory goes. Ah but I forget myself... the problem at hand is this; I am unable to boot the system and the d-bracket indicates its current status is "Processor initialization..." Then nothing. Blank screen.
LED's btw:
red green
green red
thanks for any help
Sytem specs:
k8n neo2
amd xp 64 3000+
geforce 2 mx
1x mushkin pc2700 256mb (test mem)
60gb maxtor
generic cd-writer
PS is @POWER 430w with:
+3.3v = 28a
+5v = 40a
+12 = 17a

1)I'd go further than shturmovik in your 12v amps requirement you need at least 24a especially with your new graphic card.
see Basic Building Tips - Quote
As this pertains to A64's make sure that you have a power supply that is either approved for use by MSI/AMD or that you have plenty of amps on the 12 volt rail. Typically we have noted many issues based on stability with PSU's being rated at less than 24A on the 12v rail.
Power Consumption: NVIDIA vs. ATI
2)The D-Led Quote
Processor initialization
also covers memory issues as with the 64 the memory controller is on the CPU.
as your 1x mushkin pc2700 256mb (test mem) this rules out any dual channel problems.
which slot is it in.

2gb ram that works w/k8n Neo2 + amd 64

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