2nd time capsule

I am considering getting a second time capsule - both to extend my wireless network, and to use for time machine backup on a new macbook pro. The airport documentation suggests that extending the wireless network is straightforward. Does anyone have experience with that.

Welcome to the discussions!
I have used a "Main" and "Remote" Time Capsule (both single band) to extend a wireless network and it worked very well.
Assuming you already have a TC set up, extending the wireless network requires a very simple configuration change to the "Main" Time Capsule and several steps to configure the "Remote" Time Capsule.
Here are the steps:
On the Main TC, open Airport Utility and click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the icons to display the wireless settings page
Add a check mark next to "Allow this network to be extended"
Update to save changes
On the Remote TC, open AirPort Utility and click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab
Looking at Wireless Mode, select "Extend a wireless network". When you do this, you will then select the wireless network created by the Main TC and enter the wireless network password.
Add a check mark next to "Allow wireless clients"
Update to save changes
The above steps cover the setup for "extend a wireless network". For the "Remote" TC, you will still need to name the Time Capsule, select a Time Capsule password, enable disk sharing for backups, etc. All of these things can also be done using Manual Setup.
If you have a dual band TC as your main device, only the "private" network can be extended. The "guest" network cannot be extended.
Hope this helps.

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2nd Time Capsule for redundant backup??

Currently use a 14 month old 1TB time capsule that's only about half full to do incremental backups for 2 MacBook laptops. I also use SuperDuper to create disk "clones" every month or so in case of drive failure.
I want a transparent / easy / painless backup (which I seem to have now), but am getting concerned about the Time Capsule problems I have been reading about. I know SuperDuper does incremental backups, but I like the version control that Time machine offers. I could lose a week's worth of data without too many problems, but more than that would cause quite a bit of grief to duplicate/reproduce.
I have been thinking about getting a 2nd Time Capsule, and swapping them out every week. My thought is, it would be easy to keep offsite at my office, adding another layer of protection. That after swapping out, the time machine backups would "catch up". It sounds ideal (though little expensive), but it would meet my "easy" criteria -- cables would be the same, so just unplug, plug back in and I'm done...
Big question -- will it work?
Additional questions: Same / different SSID/IP range? Problems with windows laptop, and WIFI printer?
Any input / suggestions / alternatives would be greatly appreciated!!!!

mike808ec wrote:
I know there are no guarantees in life, but I'm just trying to "hedge my bets". Is there a "verify" function available? Either as an option as part of the archive process, or a seperate run after the archive has finished.
Nothing built-in.
Alternatively is there a way to test the archive? You said i could attach the drive directly to my laptop. If I do this, and Time machine recognizes the archive does that mean it's "good", or could there be corrupted files within the archive?
You can browse them, even restore some things (probably to alternate locations), but that doesn't mean there isn't something corrupted there, somewhere.
You can also run +*Repair Disk+* (not permissions), to be sure the directory structure, etc., is good.
And, of course, a backup of a backup is only as good as the original backup; if something is wrong on your TC's hard drive (or your boot drive, for that matter), the copy on the archive will be, too.
I think this is my only hesitation to this solution. As I've said I've experienced bad / corrupted copies in the past when dealing with large file transfers. Shouldn't be a problem with a new drive, but as time goes by, and the archive grows and grows...
But you will continue the SuperDuper backups, too, right?

Extending Time Capsule primary and guest networks with 2nd Time Capsule

Hi
I have two Time Capsules. The first is configured to run a primary and guest network. It is connected to an ADSL modem. All of this works fine.
The second Time Capsule is cable connected to the first, in a 2nd location (a next door building).
I want the 2nd Time Capsule to extend _both_ primary and secondary networks in its location.
How do I configure the 2nd Time Capsule (and the first if there is anything I have to do there to get this to work).
Please! and thanks...
Graham

Sorry, but the Guest network cannot be extended either through wireless or Ethernet.
If you would like to see this feature in a future product, you might want to let Apple know
Apple - Time Capsule - Feedback

How do I extend an existing wireless network with a 2nd time capsule? I want to tether them with a gigabit ethernet connection.

I am having trouble with extending a wireless network using 2 timecapsules (1 is 1 terrbyte hdd, the other has a 2TB HDD.) The first one is connected to the WAN (cable modem) and our LAN. I would like to connect the 2nd one to the ethernet LAN and have it 'rebroadcast' the 1st ones wireless n network in order to expand the overall range of the network. Your help is very much appreciated.

Suggest that you download and install the much more useful AirPort Utility 5.6 for Mac OS X Lion.
I assume that Time Capsule 1 is operating correctly at this time.
Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility 5.6
Select Time Capsule 1 and click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the row of icons and make a note of each of the setttings on this Wireless page.
Make sure that the Ethernet cable is connected to the WAN "O" port on Time Capsule 2.
Open up AirPort Utility and select Time Capsule 2 and click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the icons and enter the exact same settings that you wrote down for Time Capsule 1
Click the Internet icon, then click the Internet Connection tab
Make sure that the settings look like this:
Connect Using = Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Click Update and allow 25-30 seconds for Time Capsule 2 to restart to a green light
Very important......perform a power cycle of the entire network as follows:
Power off every device in any order that you wish
Wait a minute
Power up the modem and let it run for minute by itself
Power up Time Capsule 1 the same way
Power up Time Capsule 2 the same way
Continue starting devices one at a time the same way until the entire network is back up

Can I use an external drive for a 2nd time capsule backup? Other questions too

My setup:
1 Macbook Air
1 Mac mini as HTPC
1 Mac mini as a media server (5tb and growing) with external drives.
I want to get a 2tb time capsule to back up my laptop and mac mini that i use as a HTPC. Simple enough....
Since the new gen airport extremes support external drives to a time machine back up i want to plug a CineRAID device with 4 6TB drives (12gb of storage in a RAID) and use that as a backup for my media server. Could I just plug it directly into the mac mini? Yes, but i am trying to have the lest amount of clutter possible visible. So i want to put in a closet where my router is..
So can I plug in the CineRAID into the usb port for a 2nd time machine backup with massive storage?
Option 2:
Just get an airport extreme and use the CineRAID for a backup via USB...
Also, how much space does the airport extreme support? Like i said up time I am at 5tb but its growing fast

So can I plug in the CineRAID into the usb port for a 2nd time machine backup with massive storage?
There is conflicting advice about whether a RAID setup will work with Time Machine, so you can find information that will say that it will work and other info that will say that it will not. In general, Apple says that Time Machine must "see" the RAID drive as a single partition, but they also say that you need to check with the support folks at the drive manufacturer for more details.
The only way that you will know whether it will work or not on your network, is try it out on your network.
Please let us know about your results.
Just get an airport extreme and use the CineRAID for a backup via USB...
Same as above.
how much space does the airport extreme support?
The firmware on an AirPort Extreme will support up to a 4 TB drive, but I have not tried it on a larger drive, so we'll need another user to answer on that one. Here again, it would be wise to try a few "tests" before you try to backup or transfer a large amount of data.

On my 2nd Time Capsule-- worst product EVER

After buying a time capsule when it first came out and having nothing but problems to the point I had to throw the device out after taking it to an Apple store and they also threw up their hands (3 hours and 2 different "geniuses"), I can't believe I actually went out and bought the newer ones, the ones with supposed "dual band". Ha. I am an idiot for buying the same cruddy product twice. (Apple will most likely remove this post in order to hide the fact that Time Capsules and Apple routers are generally the WORST ON THE MARKET. It violate their prescious user agreement to disagree with them. This is why I'm posting this also on my flame blog.
Problem: The set up alone comes with so many different problems you want to kill other humans before you're done. It took me 2 hours to finally get my 3 computers and 1 iPhone to actually access internet via this terrible product.
Once I finally got it to work, it didn't work right. It certainly creates two different networks, one for our family and one guest network. But if you choose to operate a guest network, you can't access you family network (the one with a password) with an iPhone. The iPhone will only use the Guest Network. Is that safe? Sure doesn't seem like it to me. The iPhone will alternate seeing either network, but if you have a guest network allowed, but try to log into the family network (password)it won't let you in, even tho you enter the password correctly. It's a glitch for sure, on a brand new product. If I eliminate the guest network, the devices will work (haven't even gotten to the back-up stuff which didn't work at all on my first waste-of-money Time Capsule), or if I ignore the passworded network it will work. But to operate two networks, family and guest, at the same time? IMPOSSIBLE.
This ratty piece of technology has just cost me my entire Saturday to set up. All my equipment is new within the last 18 months too.
I went Apple with 2 computers, an iPhone, and 2 cruddy router-back-up devices. Never again Apple, you've ripped your last dollar out of me. I don't care how pretty your devices are, I'm thru. Tell that to your "just works" engineers. Just works? nah, JUST SnCKS.

The port is under powered.. this is often the experience people have.. you need to use a powered hub to get things to work. Why they worked on Gen1 and not Gen4 no idea.. but your experience is not unusual.
The TC is also pretty picky when it comes to hubs.. so not everything works even then.
Are you running SL as per your info..? That should be no problem but for Lion you need to download airport utility 5.6 to even see what is connected. There also could well be some issues in 7.6 firmware for the TC.

I am on my 2nd time capsule and cannot get usb port to work

I have replaced my old Airport Extreme with an with a 2TB Time Capsule. Everything worked except the USB port. I worked with Apple Tech Support and we determined the USB Port wasn't working so I took the 2TB Capsule back and they were out of 2TB models, so I came home with a 3TB Time Capsule. Everything works except the USB Port. I have tried printers, USB hard drives, Flash Drives, etc. to no avail. What am I missing? I know I didn't get two Time Capsules with defective USB ports.

The port is under powered.. this is often the experience people have.. you need to use a powered hub to get things to work. Why they worked on Gen1 and not Gen4 no idea.. but your experience is not unusual.
The TC is also pretty picky when it comes to hubs.. so not everything works even then.
Are you running SL as per your info..? That should be no problem but for Lion you need to download airport utility 5.6 to even see what is connected. There also could well be some issues in 7.6 firmware for the TC.

Extend both main and guest networks with a 2nd Time Capsule?

I have a 4th generation 2TB Time Capsule set up to broadcast primary and guest networks. I am running out of storage. I would like to increase my storage and I would also like to extend both primary and guest networks.
I currently use an older Linksys router (WRT330N) operating in bridge mode (wired connection to the TC) to extend the primary network, but it does not extend the guest network.
If I purchase a second (5th generation) Time Capsule to replace the Linksys, can it be set up to extend both the primary and guest networks?
From searching the forum, it appears not, but I'd like to confirm. Is true for both both wireless and cabled range extension options?
If I'm not able to extend the guest network this way, I'm inclined to settle for extending the primary network as I currently do and look for other ways to increase my network storage capacity (e.g. by upgrading the drive in my existing TC).

If I purchase a second (5th generation) Time Capsule to replace the Linksys, can it be set up to extend both the primary and guest networks?
Yes, either using wireless or an Ethernet connection between the two Time Capsules, providing that the 4th Gen Time Capsule is running at least firmware version 7.6.3.
A wired Ethernet connection between the two Time Capsules is highly recommended. If you plan to extend using wireless, the second Time Capsule will need to be located where it can receive a very good signal from the first.

2nd Time Capsule - What to do with it?

Hi All,
I have 2 Time Capsules, both 2TB. One new design, one old.
For backup I only need one of them, so I wonder what to do with the second one. Setup as a Network drive?
In addition I have an MBP Mid 09, ATV3 and Iphone, if this produces any additional ideas.
I might just sell one of them, but maybe there is a usage I haven´t thought of yet, so please share your ideas.
Thanks
V

Off hand.....a few options
Use the second Time Capsule to extend a wireless network wirelessly, providing more wireless signal coverage to a remote area. The Time Capsule could still be used for backups or storage if you want in this type of setup.
Connect the second Time Capsule to the first using a spare Ethernet cable and set up dual Time Machine backups. Time Machine will alternate back ups between the two Time Capsules automatically. So, you will have two sets of Time Machine backups in case one drive fails.
You could also use wireless for Time Machine backups as in the first example. Your remote Time Capsule is hidden.....unfortunately a robbery occurs and your main Time Capsule is stolen along with other equipment. You still have your backups on the remote Time Capsule that you can use to restore your data.
Some of us who are concerned about the possibility of losing our data also keep a separate backup offsite. You never know. Fires and floods do occur.
Or, if you have no worries about loss of data on the first Time Capsule, use the second Time Capsule as an extra storage drive for data that you want to share to other users over the network.
If none of these ideas sound useful, and you are sure that you might not ever need a second backup....in case the first TC fails......and you really don't need the second Time Capsule, I would be happy to take if off your hands at no charge.

Time-Machine to back-up 2nd Time-Capsule

Hi - I'm using my old Time-Capsule (2T) as external drive for all my media files and I just bought a new 3T Time-Capsule to make back-ups using Time-Machine.
Time-Machine makes back-ups of my Mac but does it actually include the files on my 2T Time-Capsule?
Regs,
LL

It depends how you set it up:
http://pondini.org/TM/27.html
http://pondini.org/TM/32.html
Ciao.

Can I use 2 Time Capsules on the same network

Can I use 2 Time Capsules on the same network
Posted: Jul 23, 2009 1:49 PM Reply Email
Here is what I want to do. I currently have a time capsule used for one end of the house. Currently my 2 kids rooms are in an addition that I have run a cable from the time capsule to each of their rooms. If I want to give them wireless for that part of the house could I add another TC, for wireless and they can both backup their macbooks to that time capsule.
So Can I add a 2nd time capsule to extend by "N" network, or should I just go with an AP express or extreme and let them each have their own HD backup for each macbook?
Brett

Have bought many reconditioned (Refurb) product from Apple site and have always been happy with them. To date none have failed me and we have been Apple customers since 2006. With that said when you buy Refurbs make sure you know what model you are getting. The current TCs on the Apple site are last generation. The way to tell is to check the model number against the current one. Easy way to do this is to put both in the shopping cart and compare the model numbers. The Refurb model number is FB277LL/A and the new TC model is MB765LL/A. The first digits identify whether a Refurb or new, the rest should be the same if they are the same model number.
Before you buy, now which model number you want and then check other sites to compare prices. I recently purchased a new TC on Amazon for a better price then the Apple Store Site. For larger Refurb purchases like MBPs, we choose to buy directly from Apple; but for peripherals we often buy from OWC, Amazon, and other sites. Hope this helps.

Can you use two Time Capsules and back up both with Time Machine.

My little iMac hard drive (250GB) is quickly filling up with my iTunes library (180GB). I have a 500GB Time Capsule which I use to back up my system via Time Capsule. I would like to move my iTunes library to an external hard drive. If I add the 1TB Time Capsule and use it as my main system back up and wireless router can I use my 500GB Time Capsule as an external drive to locate my iTunes library? Will I be able to back up both my iMac HD and the 500GB Time Capsule to the 1TB Time Capsule using Time Machine or some other method?
Finally if I can do this can I have both Time Capsules running wireless?
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Could I simply make a copy and move it between the two Time Capsule on a routine basis say every two weeks or month?
Yes
I know I will have to "point" or "map" the new location of my iTunes library to the external hard drive/2nd Time Capsule. Once that is done wouldn't Time Machine then just find the location and back it up along with all the data on the iMac hard drive?
Since this Time Capsule would be connected wirelessly or via Ethernet to your Mac, it would appear as a network drive. Time Machine will not back up data FROM a network drive. Therefore Time Machine will not back up data on this other Time Capsule.

Home setup - network switch and 2 Time Capsules

I have an ADSL modem/router (Billion BIPAC 5200G). I have used it previously with wireless turned off. I then used a time capsule in bridge mode so that NAT etc is turned off, and then use it to broadcast wifi and as a backup. It is attached to the modern with ethernet. It worked fine.
I am now in a house with a lot of ethernet ports, linked to a massive hub thing. But it needs a switch to link it all together.
So I am thinking of this setup:
PHONE LINE
to
BILLION ROUTER (Set as a router with wifi turned off)
to
NETWORK SWITCH
to
VARIOUS ethernet enabled devices in different rooms (i.e. printers, Apple TV, TV, Time capsule)
Then I want to use my 2nd time capsule to extend my ground floor network by plugging it in essentially directly into the time capsule via ethernet in roaming mode.
Is this the optimal setup for this? My other idea was to forgo the network switch and do it this way:
PHONE LINE
to
BILLION ROUTER (Set as a router with wifi turned off)
to
VARIOUS ethernet enabled devices INCLUDING the TIME CAPSULE and PRINTER.
then:
To the TIME CAPSULE:
to
VARIOUS ethernet enabled devices INCLUDING Imac, Apple TV and another TIME CAPSULE in roaming mode.
My main questions are: which setup will give me better speeds to all devices. Ie: is the switch even necessary? In my 2nd example, will the first time capsule and printer be available to the Imac.
There seems to be no real advantage to having the TIME CAPSULE in router mode while keeping the BILLION ROUTER as a pass through with NAT off (To avoid Double NAT) except for the guest network capabilities.
If its just simpler to have the network switch, then perhaps that's the way to go. If so: any suggestions on network switches that work well?

It doesn't allow me to select ethernet as an option for internet connection, only dchp, ppoe and one more which isn't ethernet.
DHCP is correct setting. .it will use ethernet but the new AC TC has problems.. it needs a crossover cable with some switches. Or you need to return it and get it replaced as there is something wrong with its wan port.. the new AC model needs a hardware revision and about 3 or 4 firmware upgrades before it hits the status of the Gen4 it replaced.
My questions are: should I connect my time capsules together directly with ethernet using another available port in my new time capsule. I thought my switch would work better. Also, does one time capsule have to be in router mode instead of having both of them in bridge.
Both should be in bridge.. but you can rearrange things to see if any of the other devices works better.
You can use the billion or the old TC.. plug the new TC into those.
Bob is correct though.. the switch is the correct thing for everything to be plugged into .. but in home situation what works is more important than what is best. It if fails in all of them then the WAN port is proven faulty.
Should I be able to use the hdd on the 2nd (older) time machine as essentially a networked hdd for putting movies and music on, and use my new time capsule as the sole backup (occurring both over ethernet for my iMac and wifi for our laptops)
Yes, that is ok.. you just need to get the AC version TC actually working properly.
Give us a few screenshots of things.. that really helps to see.
Click on each unit and show the summary pages.

New Time Capsule 2TB problem

Hello,
I decided to get a Time Capsule (newest tower version). I ran the back up wirelessly and successfully, as to say that it went through the the initial backup overnight and completed it uninterrupted. The next morning, I entered time machine and saw the backup like normal. I then decided to test it out and deleted a few PDF files from my "documents" folder, emptied trash and then ran another backup. When running new back up, it was "backing up" an additional 1.8 GB, (I was surprised it would have that much to back up.)
Upon on completion of second backup, I decided to go back in TM to the initial backup to attemp to restore the deleted PDFs. When going back to the old "documents" folder that was initially backed up, the folder didn't have the deleted files, reflecting the "current" state of the folder, not the state from the initial backup done hours earlier.. Then when I tried to switch to another folder, like "movies" the TM started getting slow and unresponsive! unable to show the files. This is the 2nd Time Capsule I have tried and had the same problem with both. I feel like there is something wrong with what I am doing, however I have used TM on on a wired hard drive in the past with no problems. Any help in pointing out something I'm doing wrong or steps to ensure the go are set up correctly is appreciated.
the firmware is up to date as is the Macbook Software. Using a mid 2014 MBP retina with Yosemite.
THanks!

tthanks Bob. That makes sense if I'm following you correctly. The wireless "backup" process, where TM says "preparing back up" then says something like "30.5 GB out of 200BG backed up" , then finally "back-up complete" took about 5-7 hrs wirelessly but then completely finished.
IF I'm understanding you right, it may take a few days after the "backup complete" message for the TC disk to be fully catalogued wirelessly before specific file details are ready to be utilized for normal TM operation?
am I getting this right?
THanks!!

Increasing storage for time capsule

What is the best solution to increase the storage available for my 2Tb time capsule to about 4Tb
-do I need to buy a 2nd time capsule or can i just add another storage drive, which would be cheaper?
Thanks.

Time Capsule 100% easily accepts larger capacity HDDs, yes.
There's a perfect articale about it with photos http://blog.helpmymac.ru/?p=725 but it is in Russain.
BUT!!!
1) You must always take in consideration heat dissipation of the new drive. <ake sure newly-installed drie heat dissipation doesn't exceed the one of the factory installed drives.
2) The artice authors checked only WD HDD model of one step larger capacity. This model was being installed in that time to a more expensive versions of time capsule. They don't guarantee time capsule will accept HDDs other that WD theexacltly matching series or Seagate. But it is most likely it will be OK.
3) Take in consideration that 3GB+ capacities are not guaranteed to be OK, too/
So, in conclusion, if you replace the HDD inside TC with the same model with larger capacity most likely it will work OK!

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