30 gig ZEN NX battery quest

I just got a 30 gig ZEN NX today and i am curious about the battery. On the first charge is the battery icon suppost to be the charging one or the powerplug one? On mine it seems to be the powerplug one. So is my zen detecting the battery at all and charging charging it or just running off the power and not doing anything to the battery?

Assuming the battery isn't full, it should be the charging icon.
If you remove the mains adapter what charge level i shown?
If the battery is not fully charged then follow the advice here in the Zen FAQ at Nomadness.net.

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Zen Touch Battery Quest

when i first bought my zen touch, i started loading songs on it through theusb port because i was told that the usb also charges the battery, but i didnot realize that the usb only charges the battery when the player is turnedoff, so when i loaded my first batch of music onto my player the battery wasnot charging like i thought, so i kept going back and forth from the acadaptor to the usb just to make sure the player was working and to load somemusic onto the player and listen to it to make sure it worked correctly,then i realized i had to fully charge the battery before i could really useit. so after doing all this i decided to just charge the battery fullythrough the ac adaptor before loading anymore music and playing any moremusic on my zen touch. i hope by starting off like this that i didnt do anydamage to the battery or shorten the life of it between charges because ididnt fully charge it at first before doing any transfering and playing ofmusic. please tell me there is no possiblity of ruining the battery life percharge or overall by doing what i did.thank you

It's hard to know for sure. I even contacted the author of BatteryUni'versity.com to ask about initial charging, and he was unsure as to whether it really makes any difference. So the general school of thought at the moment is that an initial charge certainly doesn't do any harm, so it might as well be done (you'll see some manuals even recommending three complete charges and discharges).

Zen Sleek battery quest

I bought a Zen Sleek a few days ago and so far I'm loving it. I have one question though.
When charging the Sleek the flashing lightning symbol never goes away, not even after some 3 hours of charging. The manual said 2 would be sufficient. Is this a problem or a feature?

nylenny wrote:
But questions arise from time to time so I thought I'd register on this Creative forum. Usually the forums give much better advise than the manufacturer.
That's true. These forums are more help from what I have seen. As to the battery being replaced, most of the time, under normal use, the battery lasts 2-3 years. The player hasnt been out that long, so it would be rare to find someone who has replaced it.
Does yours show any signs of battery problems?

Charging Zen Micro battery quest

Hello all,
I went to charge my Zen Micro 5Gb last night. Plugged the usb end into the Micro and put the plug in the wall socket and the Zen showed it was charging, but I had caught the lead between the li've and neutal pins of the plug, so it wasnt flush in the wall socket.
I unplugged, moved the cable and plugged back in (a matter of no more than 5 -0 seconds) and the Zen did nothing, just a blank screen.
Pulled the plug out again and waiting this time before plugging back in and all went well, 3 hours later all charged.
I assume I spiked the battery? Could I have done any harm to the battery or player?
Any replies would be appreciated.

I guess at worst you might have had an intermittent connection, which in turn might have damaged the player (constant "spiking", as you mentioned).
If the player is fine though it sounds to me like it didn't suffer any damage.

Zen Micro Photo USB & Battery quest

I bought a zen micro when they first came out about 2-3 years ago. Well the dreaded headphone jack issue has finally gotten to me. So I just bought a zen micro photo. Was on sale here for $00 so I figured y not buy it! My question is this:?) the usb cable that comes with the photo is alot shorter than the regualr zen micro. Can I use the regular zen micros usb cable to transfer songs?2) I have 2 batteries for the regular micro. Would those work with the photo??

Hi,
Yes, they both have the same mini USB connection so the cable is the same type.
As far as the battery goes, it would work, but the Zen Micro battery is not as powerful so the battery life will not be as long.
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Zen:M Battery death!!!!!a last hope!

A few months ago, I bought a wall charger(Creative Switching adaptor model:tesa9g-0502400).Suddlenly when?I connected?the Mp3(vision zen:m) to the wall charger,the screen turned black! and shut down!!since that moment,each time I connect the Mp3 to the wallcharger, it just turn on?a steady blue light (it doesn't blink)and the screen?stays black. I also tried with the USB connector, but it doesn't work! (now not even the blue light)!?
I've?been thinking that the problem is the battery(short circuit). I saw in Internet(amazon.com) a replacement battery for creative Zen vision M. Could I change the battery of my 60 giga model with this replacement?Is this battery compatible?with any Vision:M model or is just for 30 giga model? Is someone there,who has tried to chance the battey of their Zen:M Model?Are the Vision M models the same Amps and Voltages?I dont see in any place(manual and MP3)?the Amps and voltage of the Vision Zen:M Battery!!!!Could someone help me with this information!!!!please!!!!!!Is my last hope to save my?beloved music!!!!!!

Haha, thanks... I hope it charges. I nearly died in the six monthes I didn't have an mp3 player (My ZEN Micro...) But now with my new one (Thanks Santa!) I have been resecitated! Seriously hope all goes well with your player. Like I said, plus and minues with the internal harddri've. As with any piece of technology. There will always be a risk, but I will stick to Creative over iPod any day. I am a walking billboard for creative when it comes to mp3 players cause for the most part they have worked fine for me.

Nomad Jukebox 30 gig Zen xtra on Windows Vis

What files do I need to set up my Nomad Jukebox 30 gig Zen xtra, so?it will work on Windows Vista Ultimate??Thanks

http://support.creative.com/download...ale=033&nPage=

Zen Xtra 40 Gig Owner W/Subscription Questi

So I see Creative has put out some firmware to run subscription services on the Zen Xtra's now. Are there any subscription services that don't rquire WinXP? I just reinstalled 2k Pro like 2 weeks ago, finally got everything set up how I like it, and I don't feel like doing it again for another year. Considering the savings in cost per track to put stuff on my Zen vs. the savings of just a subscription fee, and my buddie's legit XP Pro volume license, it might be worth the upgrade. Got a few other questions too.
. I'm considering going with Napster To Go or Yahoo Music Unlimited (probably Napster as I f*ckin' HATE all things SBC). What's anyone's experience with either service, and are there any other services you'd reccomend? Part of the reason I'd like to go with napster is I'd get a free small player I could use at the gym or on my average 3 - 5 mile run. I'm sure either of these activities would beat the hell out of my Zen Extra.
2. One thing I've noticed about Napster with my trial subscription is that all tracks still aren't readily downloadable, and you still must purchase them. Is this the case with the more expensi've "To Go" option? Are other services like this?
3. I generally use MusicMatch Plus to play all my music tracks and rip my CD's. I noticed I could play the tracks I downloaded in Napster with WMP 9, but not MMatch JB 8. Does anyone know if there's a MMatch version that will run tracks from Napster, etc? I'm not too interested in their subscription services. They have no "To Go" deals, all tracks are $.99 all the time, MX radio ain't that great, and On Demand's not too awesome either.
4. This is an important one for me. I noticed that the firmware upgrade says once I upgrade my Zen extra, I cannot connect to any non-XP machines. Is this true even for the data library? I frequently use my Zen to back up files or take my personal picutre collection with me.
5. Another important one: I noticed on the firmware upgrade I may not be able to transfer as many files to my Zen and I may lose some capacity. The description specifically said this is more noticeable on larger players. My Mp3 collection's already 27 gigs (mostly legit too!) and several thousand tracks, and I pack another 3 - 5 gigs of pics / working papers most of the time. I'll likely have a ton of subscription tunes on my machine as well if I upgrade. What are these limits, and how will they affect me?
6. I currently use NomadSync to keep my Zen synced to my ginormous collection, will it work with the new firmware?
Thanks for any info, it's much appreciated.

(Initial) Yes, all subscription services require WinXP SP or 2 and WMP 0. Microsoft did release MTP drivers for WinMe, 2000, and 98SE, but they require customization which no one has managed to carry out; and even then, the lack of WMP 0 for anything but WinXP strongly suggests subscription services won't work with other OSes.
. I tried NTG for awhile before switching to YMU, and I personally prefer YMU. (Don't worry about SBC; they just contract with Yahoo! for content--as does Verizon and many other telcos around the world.) I would say that you're better off using the stand-alone Napster player than the one embedded in WMP 0, although WMP 0 is a requirement. But then, NTG didn't have the free flash player when I tried it; if that's important to you, by all means go for it. (Though you might be able to find a cheap subscription-compatible flash player, probably a 52MB or GB SanDisk Sansa m200.)
2. I believe that Napster still makes purchase the default option on trials; it switches to download when you become a paying customer. YMU has buttons on every track for streaming (play button), download as a subscription track (plus-sign button, formerly musical notes), and purchase (Buy button).
3. I'd try upgrading to MMJB 0. Or consider MMJB 0., which officially is released only for Dell DJs but can be used with other players; it has a "to go" version of On Demand. (Perhaps DM can post the link in this thread.)
4. Since the Xtra doesn't have removable-disk mode, you can only connect to machines with WinXP SP or 2 and WMP 0, even for data. The Micro, MicroPhoto, and Sleek have removable-disk mode; non-XP machines can access the separate data partition, but not the regular partition. The Xtra and Touch don't have a separate data partition, only the regular partition which requires WinXP.
5. Though it's unclear, most of us believe the reduction of capacity is due to additional firmware code on the dri've--which explains the need to reformat the dri've.
6. MTP is a different protocol from traditional Creative protocols; though not specifically mentioned on the NomadSync site, since it doesn't mention MTP, Janus or PlaysForSure, it won't work with MTP players. You'll have to use WMP 0, Zen Xtra Media Explorer (included in the Creative Software Suite), MediaSource 3.30.2 with the MTP plug-in (download MediaSource first, the plug-in is in the suite), or your subscription player (Napster, Yahoo! Music Engine, MMJB 0., etc.) to transfer files.
Message Edited by RBBrittain on -2-2005 04:34 AM

Zen Sleek Photo - battery quest

Hello;
I'm a new Sleek Photo owner and I love this product. But questions arise from time to time so I thought I'd register on this Creative forum. Usually the forums give much better advise than the manufacturer.
Question ) Has anyone had to have the battery replaced yet?
Message Edited by Catherina-CL on 06-27-2006 03:09 PM

nylenny wrote:
But questions arise from time to time so I thought I'd register on this Creative forum. Usually the forums give much better advise than the manufacturer.
That's true. These forums are more help from what I have seen. As to the battery being replaced, most of the time, under normal use, the battery lasts 2-3 years. The player hasnt been out that long, so it would be rare to find someone who has replaced it.
Does yours show any signs of battery problems?

Zen Micro Battery USB Charging Quest

As I understand it, it is best to fully charge and then fully discharge the battery, especially in the first few uses, but the player automatically charges though the USB cable when I hook it up to put songs on it.
What am I supposed to be doing - leaving it on all night to discharge in between CD ripping sessions? And if it is discharged, can I just hook it up to the computer to charge it, or am I supposed to charge it with the power cable first and then hook it up to the computer? I'm not sure what the best thing to do is.

DavisMcDavis,
Only during the first few charges is there any advantage to doing a full recharge followed by a full discharge. After about the first 3 then it is better to do partial recharges. Plugging it into USB for transfers shouldn't cause any problems, but try to avoid any really lengthy connections (over an hour, except for full recharges of course) until it have discharged and recharged the first few times. This is the best way to condition the battery.
Jeremy

Just got an 8 gig Zen MicroPhoto and love it! Just some suggestions tho

Hi everyone, my friend was considering a Zen Vision M and an Ipod video. I kinda suggested the Zen so he got it and absolutely loves it.
After seeing how nice the Zen Vision M is, I jumped on this MicroPhoto when I saw a sale and it is awesome!
The Zen MicroPhoto is a really good device, but just simple firmware stuff could make it a great one.
.) Ability to view pictures + listen to music
2.) Ability to view movies and video (the Muvo has smaller capacity and a screen with less colors and it can? Yet we are buying a nicer mp3 player than the Muvo but can't do video? The Sansa is small as hell and it can. It has the screen, hardware wise it should be able to do it, and if this is added through a firmware update, it won't be on the packaging and thus will not hurt sales of your other products.
I hate it when an awesome product is created and is capable of something and the manufacturer slashes that ability from it intentionally.
Another good example is the Gen III Ford Taurus SHO, its 3.4 liter Yamaha V8 was capable of revving well over 7500RPM and producing more than 30hp. Ford however, even though they had this jewel of an engine, intentionally cut its ability down to 235hp or else they feared it would be faster than their Mustang GT. What a shame, I hate to see that Creative is doing the same with the MicroPhoto.
3.) Ability to record FM with the latest firmware (If this is a RIAA issue, then please provide two firmwares and two download links, one that says "United States Users" and one that says "Non-US users"
4.) Ability to control different aspects of the glowing blue LEDs. They are obviously firmware controlled and can have brightness adjusted since they glow in and out when you have it plugged into the USB cable.
5.) Make it show up on your computer as a removable disk. On all my other MP3 players, it showed up just like a flash dri've and you could drag and drop whatever you wanted onto it, and it would just play whatever files on there it could play. Here, it won't let me drag and drop anything that is copy protected or is a different file type.
I know you can set aside 4 gigs of that for this purpose, but with the size of the files and videos I transfer, it would be nice if I could use all 8 gigs. Perhaps an option to just let the whole thing show up as a removable flash dri've?
*ok... I just tried it and that seems to be working on this computer that is Windows XP SP2 with WMP, but on the school computer that was XP SP2 with WMP0, it would not allow me to do this.

I think you will find that the reason the MicroPhoto is on sale is that it is now a legacy player (it was released before anybody could play video). I doubt very much that any further improvements will be coming....
EQ does have an effect... Maybe you earphones are not working well?

Zen 2GB Battery Issue - Please help!

$? I bought two Creative Zen 2GB as their battery life is up to 30 hours. I have a Microsoft Zune and it gets the 4 hours listed but both of the Zen's only get 0- hours per full charge. I fully charge, then run the recovery tool and run disk clean up, format, new firmware. I then add all mp3's at 28 bitrate, EQ off, bass off and keep the volume on 3. In the setup I the brightness down as far as it will go at 0%, I think you should be able to set it to 0%. But what am I missing to only get 0-2 hour max on these two new units? I recently read about Idle shutdown, but yesterday I charged the Zen 8 hours to be sure, then with all the optimal settings I cut it on at 0pm and let it run througout the night and at 9am it had very little charge left...please help with any ideas/suggestions as I just get links from Creative tech telling me things I am already doing.
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Micktarheel wrote:
Excellent, thanks for the replies and I read about the lock function online but it said for 4GB and up I think, but not 2GB. I thought, even with the screen at the lowest, 0% that it was too much lcd and a battery drainer...thanks!
Yes, I have the 2G ZEN player and it does have the "lock function" (often on the Creative's web site they neglect to mention the 2G) - I "lock it" every time I listen to my audio books. By using this function it "closes" (blackens) ?the LCD screen and saves the battery considerably.
When I first bought this player it was the first time I had an internal battery, all the other ones I had used -AAA battery. I was hesitant about using the type of battery in the ZEN player but I can listen ALL day and ALL night and still have battery life left. Then I recharge the battery in the wee hours of the morning, ready to listen to more books and music that day.
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Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra - Battery 3.6v vs. 3

Hey all - I'm looking to purchase a replacement battery for my 30g Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra and I've found some cheap ones from ebay (such as this one). The question I have is this: my stock battery is 3.6v but this replacement (which has the same parts number) is rated at 3.7v - is this a problem? Will this damage my player?
Please let me know what issues this may cause and what successes/failures people have had with replacement batteries.
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<A target=_blank><B>Q: What is the difference between the 3.6 volt and the 3.7 volt lithium-ion and lithium-polymer cells?</B>[/url]A. This quesiton has been on my mind for a few months. There is a lot of folklore out there about this. It confused me for two reasons. Firstly, I have never heard of a higher charge voltage for some cells and not others. Secondly, the 3.6 is just a rule-of-thumb average of the battery voltage anyway . The actual voltage varies between 4.2 volts and 3 (or 2.8) volts during the discharge. It doesn't have one voltage. You can't just put a meter on a cell and say "this one is a 3.6 volt cell" or "this one is a 3.7 volt cell."So I asked a friend who has a PhD in battery chemistry and has been designing, testing, and manufacturing lithium ion and li-poly cells for over 5 years. Here is his answer:<I>There is no difference between 3.6V and 3.7V cells. The reasons why people say 3.6V in one case and 3.7V in other cases are due to discharge rate. If you discharge your lithium ion cells with 0.2C rate, the middle point voltage of the cells is 3.7V. If you discharge your lithium ion cells with 2C rate, the middle point voltage of the cells is 3.6V or even lower. The middle point voltage of a lithium ion cells, including Polymer Lithium ion Cells, is between 3.6V and 3.7V, variable upon discharging rate.</I>In other words, it is mostly marketing hype. Now the modern cells tend to keep their voltage higher during discharge than the old ones, so a marketing person could easily say "this makes the average higher, so let's call it a 3.7 volt cell."But why stop there? Why not rate the voltage as the peak voltage and get the jump on everybody? "It's a 4.2 volt cell, demand nothing less!"So don't get caught up with the hype when selecting a batteryMessage Edited by RobertoV05 on 0--2006 2:37 AM

Zen Touch Battery Is

Hi,
Just recently I bought a Zen Touch. I've always charged after the "low battery" sign is displayed, played songs at 92 Kbps, and rarely used equilizer settings. However, I'm still beginning to notice severe shortening of battery life. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong/what I should do to prevent this? Thanks.Message Edited by t3hggnore on 03-27-200605:32 PM
Message Edited by t3hggnore on 03-27-200605:37 PM

I agree that comment was totally uncalled for...
Charging the battery when the?battery is totally depleated can do more harm than good especally with the type of battery in these players, I would reccomend that its charged as soon as the battery hits one bar on the display.
Charging via USB is slower compaired to DC charging. If you use a DC adapter when your player's battery is almost depleated then it , charges faster and 2, it's supplying a fair enough voltage and current and also delei'vers a deeper charge compared to USB charging
Message Edited by 2027746 on 03-28-20062:2 PM

Zen Touch battery issue, pleas

Hallo, and thanks for reading me.
few issues...
First: is it normal that when you transfer many cds to the Zen Touch it looses one or two battery points even when fully charged? considering that it is really new it is worth asking...! wasn't it supposed to last 24h? And when is the best time to rechardh it's from totally uncharged or from middle charge? any other key thing concerning battery life that i should know?
Second: how can i create a playlist directly from the Touch?
Thanks a lot friends!!!

ziomatte wrote:First: is it normal that when you transfer many cds to the Zen Touch it looses one or two battery points even when fully charged? considering that it is really new it is worth asking...! wasn't it supposed to last 24h? And when is the best time to rechardh it's from totally uncharged or from middle charge? any other key thing concerning battery life that i should know?
As Igedit says, yes it's normal. The battery can run flat in an hour or two during transfers, so use the mains adapter if you can.
Second: how can i create a playlist directly from the Touch?
See in this thread.

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