310N extending an existing network

I am trying to extend my existing network. I currently have the cable modem plugged into an older Linksys wireless router which works fine, from there I have wires going out to other parts of the house and a Linksys switch providing extra ports.One of the wires goes to the office upstairs, where I am trying to install a 310N to extend the reach of my wireless. I am willing to set it up as a separate wireless network.
I plugged the 310 into the switch and I got an IP address for a second, but I couldn't ping down to the first router from the computer. I reconfigured the 310 putting it on a different subnet, connecting the cable from the downstairs router to the WAN, to a normal port. I could not get it to work. I am fine using the 310 as a switch or a hub, I just need the extra wireless coverage.
Any suggestions?

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How many Airport devices do I need to extend an existing network?

Hello all,
I hope one of you might be able to help me with a problem.
I recently just moved to a different apartment, and my router (from my local internet provider) does not reach to all the rooms in the apartment.
Since I also wanted to stream wireless music in my home office I read that the Airport express would be a great solution to both extend the existing network and stream wireless from my Apple products.
I went to buy the Airport express, and asked the guy in the local authorized reseller of Apple products, if I could use this without connecting it via cables to my router (hence using it via wifi only). And he said yes, which I believed. However, after trying to set it up, and failed. I started searching for questions about my issue.
So:
Do I need two airport devices if I want to extend my existing network, when the router is in the living room, and the speakers that I want to stream from are located in my home office in the other end of the apartment? The area that I want to extend the existing network to is the bed room, next to the office.
So I thought that I could set the Airport express up in my office and connect it to the mini-jack from the speakers, and voila it would just do as I wanted to. But since I'm not a technical expert, I might have misunderstood, and I really do not want long ethernet cables running all over the place.
Is the only solution then to buy two devices? (Oh and for your information, I am not able to move the router to the office since there is no outlet for the internet, the only place it can be set up is in the living room).
Hope someone can help enlighten me on this issue. Thank you :-)

You need two AirPorts if you want to wirelessly "extend" the network, which will provide more wireless coverage....since both AirPorts will be broadcasting a wireless network.
You only need one AirPort Express if all that you want to do is use it for AirPlay to pick up the wireless signal and "join" your existing wireless network. In order to do this, the Express must be able to receive a good wireless signal from your router.
To test if you have a good signal, take a laptop or mobile device to the area where you want to install the AirPort Express and check to make sure that you can get a good wireless connection at that location. If you can, then the AirPort Express should work well at the same point.

Extending an existing network

Hello,
Which setting should I used to extend my existing network?
Should I set the Airport Express to JOIN AN EXISTING WIRELESS NETWORK (CLIENT)?
Anything else I need to do to extend the range of my network?
Thank you,
Juha

No problem.
Try the following ...
Set up a Wireless Distribution System (WDS)
(Note: To facilitate the WDS set up, place the base stations in near proximity of each other during the initial configuration phase. Be sure to jot down the AirPort ID MAC addresses for each of the base station that will be used in the WDS.)
Main Base Station Setup - AEBS
Either connect to the AirPort Extreme Base Station's (AEBS) wireless network, or, temporarily, connect directly (using an Ethernet cable) to the LAN port of the AEBS, and then, use the AirPort Admin Utility (located in /Applications/Utilities), in manual mode, to make the following settings.
WDS Tab
o Enable this base station as a WDS: main base station (checked)
o Allow wireless clients on this base station (optional)
o Click "+" to add a Remote base station.
o Select the base station that you want as the WDS Remote. This should be your AirPort Express Base Station (AX).
o AirPort ID: <verify that this is the correct wireless MAC address for the AX>
o Auto configure as a WDS remote base station (checked)
o Click "OK."
o Verify that the AX has been added to the list.
o Click "Update," and then verify the settings for the Remote.
o Allow wireless clients on this base station (checked)
o New network name: <verify that this is the same as the network name for the AEBS>
o TCP/IP: Configure using DHCP
o Base Station Password: <the AX's base station password if you're using one>
o Confirm: <same as previous step>
o Click "OK."

I did set up my Airport Express to extend my existing network. It did ok but I can't see the name assigned to the Airport Express name in my available networks. Is that normal?

I did set up my Airport Express to extend my existing network. It did ok but I can't see the name assigned to the Airport Express name in my available networks. Is that normal?

If the AirPort Express is extending your network it is using the same wireless network name as your "main" router.
Your main router and the Express act like one "big" network now.
Your computer will connect to either the main router or the Express automatically....depending on where it sees the best signal.

Extend a existing network.....Help

I have a 500GB Apple Time Capsule and connected this to my Telstra Negear Wireless Router, all signals are green and ready to go, this allows me to back up, so connection is correct. I then hooked up the Airport Express and that now has a green light when connected to my existing wireless network.
When I choose the option on either the Time Capsule or Airport Express to extend the existing network which is why I bought the Airport Express...it all starts flashing orange...are there any particular things I need to change in any of the settings, as I have tried everything and no luck

Lele273 wrote:
Yes TC is plugged into Telstra Modem by ethernet but as join a wireless network not create a wireless network
That's what you need to fix. If your Time Capsule is creating your wireless network, an Express can "extend" it - not the wireless network created by your Telstra wireless router.
It has to look like this
Guest network, security, and the wireless options do not matter. The Time Capsule must be configured to "Create a wireless network".

Time Capsule only runs with 1,1Mbit up/down during data transfer, internet speed is ok, TC is used to extend an existing network

Hello Everyone,
I have a new 2TB Time Capsule running with a MacBook Air. I want to use the TC to access data (Aperture library, iTunes library, other Files) and to backup my MacBook Air via Time Machine. I set it up, integrated the TC in my Network (FritzBox) by choosing "extend existing network" and it works. BUT only with 1.1Mbit/second while writing or reading Data to/from it. Internet speed is very good, like it was before. While the 1.1Mbit/second seem to be ok with Aperture and iTunes (streaming music and movies) it is still painfully slow and I'm not realy happy with that
I've read that:
The 1.1Mbit problem is pretty common when Time Capsule is integrated and used to extend a network (bridge modus), it also looses all ethernet connectivity then (that woul explain why connecting it by ethernet didn't help during initial setup and data transfer)
Is there a solution besides ditching the Fritzbox and using the TC to build the network? Because basicly I still need the Fritzbox for its DECT features.
Thank you for any help in advance and have a nice day,
Olli

You have double hop wireless with this setup..
You should bridge the TC.. that is router bridge not wireless bridge, and plug the TC into the Frizyboy by ethernet.
Then you can setup the TC wireless to reinforce the fritzy..
Same wireless name as SSID.
Same security settings... really should be WPA2 AES or in TC personal.
Same password..
Just different wireless channel.
Then you can use 5ghz on the TC if you are up close and personal.

HT4259 How to you extend my existing network using an AirPort Express?

My current configuration is a Linksys wireless router that I'm connecting to the AirPort Express via Cat. 5 cable. Only get a flashing yellow light. Help.

I got it working but here is the deal. It is not intuitive; you have to set it on "Create a wireless network", not "Extend a wireless network". You use extend a wireless network when you do it all wirelessly when the signal from the base is strong enough. But since I couldn't reach my wireless network to boost it, I had to use the cat. 5. So I guess it does make sense since I'm going from my WAN by cable to creating a wireless network. For some reason I thought it was going to be seamless with my existing wireless network so therefore I was extending my wireless network. Wrong. Thanks for all your suggestions as I think I would have quit long ago without you help.

Better to create or extend my existing network? (Time Capsule, Express, AppleTV with wireless modem internet)

We have Optus ADSL broadband (Australia) running wireless via a 'Sagemcom F@ST 3864 Optus' modem. We have an Airport Time Capsule (for backup) and an Airport Express (for music connection) and Apple TV.
I currently have the Time Capsule (Express & TV) set up as their own network, sharing the internet from the Optus wireless network. Is creating a new network like this the best scenario? Or is it better to extend the existing Optus wireless network? Besides extension for range/reception, does either option have particular benefits over the other?
Other than internet, we just stream music/movies from laptops & phones to speakers/TV, so the thinking behind creating a new network rather than extending, was based on the assumption that the Time Capsule may be better at data transfer than the modem?
Any thoughts would be great!

Is creating a new network like this the best scenario? Or is it better to extend the existing Optus wireless network? Besides extension for range/reception, does either option have particular benefits over the other?
I would say it is about 50-50.. 6 of one .. half a dozen of the other.
Any scenario you dream up has a set of good points and bad points.
So some factors.
1. I presume you have the TC plugged by ethernet into the Sagem modem.. bridged and creating its own network.. using two different network names keeps the local connection load contained which is good thing.
Wireless is fundamentally poor. It has limits on being only able to handle a single client at a time.. so time slicing between all the clients. plus it is half duplex.. which is simply it can either transmit or receive not both.
In comparison, Ethernet via modern switches.. can have multiple computers talking to each other at once and can both tx and rx, ie full duplex. So using extend wireless is very bad. It means wireless is much slower as each packet is double handled.
Using multiple APs connected back by ethernet to a main router is definitely the right way to go. They can be in roaming or setup with completely different names.. that is almost irrelevant. It is easier though to manage when you do the naming and setup so you specifically allocate load.
For example.. if the TC is doing backups from TM on the computers and you start having streaming issues with the Apple TV, split the load, by naming the 2.4ghz and 5ghz differently in the TC.. and force backups to 5ghz and streaming to 2.4ghz (or visa versa depending on range issues etc.).
2. Network wise different AP should all live happily together in one happy family. The reality is that more equipment leads to more issues. I have been hitting a few issues lately with wireless routers exactly in your setup being unavailable to the network, if a computer happens to be connected to the wrong router.
For example a computer connected to the Sagem, whether by wireless or ethernet, may have issues backing up to the TC. It shouldn't but it does. I am seeing Mavericks in particular giving strife this way.
Someone recently posted a very helpful article on why this is happening.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5863043?tstart=0
For most people in a home network you do not want the hassle of running a server. But you can see that sometimes things start getting complicated.
Best principle is hope for the best.. set it up as per what you have done.. if it bombs or is unstable.. work back through the issues.. there are some alternative configurations which are more complicated.. eg running the TC with static IP, that seems to alleviate some of the bugs.
3. What works is best. Whatever the theory.. try a few setups.. what you setup that works well for you is the best even if the theory says no.. that is bad.
eg One post a person used roaming network with all AP's fixed to the same channel, so the idevices would roam properly. This is wrong.. but works.. normal roaming network laptops seem to be able to roam well but idevices do not. Pick what works.
https://discussions.apple.com/message/25138680?ac_cid=tw123456#25138680

How to extend an existing network with airport

How Do you extend a wireless network using two airports?

Please check out the following Apple Support article for details on how to extend a wireless network with multiple AirPort base stations.

Extend existing network with Airport extreme and 3 airport express.

I want to extend an existing network (thomson TG787v) with an airport extreme (MD031Z/A) with 3 or 4 airport express(MC14Z/A)
The thomson is the router from the provider and must be used. The building is an old mansion with a lot of brick walls
I tried to connect the extreme with an ethernet cable (in bridge mode) and then connect the airport express in a line to have wifi in all rooms of the mansion.
But somehow the airport extremes cannot extend the network.
Can anyone tell me how to setup the apple devices to make this work?
Thanks
Bernhard

I tried to connect the extreme with an ethernet cable (in bridge mode)
This is the correct.
and then connect the airport express in a line to have wifi in all rooms of the mansion.
Apple's "extend a wireless network" feature will only allow you to "extend" the signal one time. So, the first Express would connect to the AirPort Extreme wirelessly and extend the signal.
But, you cannot "extend" the signal a second or third time. Each AirPort Express must be located so that it connects directly to the AirPort Extreme. In other words, each AirPort Express must be located about the same distance from the AirPort Extreme.
Another way of thinking about his is to visualize the hub and spokes of a wheel. The AirPort Extreme would be located at the "hub". Each AirPort Express would be located at then end of a "spoke". As such, each AirPort Express communicates directly to the AirPort Extreme.....not to another AirPort Express at the end of another hub.
You may need to consider installing Ethernet cable to each location where you will need an AirPort Express and configure the network that way. Performance wise, this is a much better way to "extend" the network.

Difference between Extending Network & Joining Existing Network

I am using an Extreme as my main device. I want to increase the range by using an Express in another area of the house. When I setup the "Extend an Existing Network," I get an amber light. When I then setup "Join an Existing Network," I get a green light. My confusion is, does both modes service users, or can you only connect when the Express is in Extend mode.
Also, how can I tell what Generation my devices are?

Thanks for the info.
Please download and install AirPort Utility 5.6 for Mac OS X Lion since we will need the extra features in this version of the utility to do what you want.
This version will tell you which version of the AirPort product that you have when you click on a device and look to the right for more info.
When the AirPort Express "extends a wireless network", it performs multiple functions:
Provides more wireless coverage in the area where it is located
Provides an audio signal at the audio port for AirTunes
Provides a signal for a printer at the USB port
Provides a signal at the Ethernet port for devices that connect using Ethernet
When the AirPort Express "joins a wireless network it performs all of the functions above....except....it does not provide any additional wireless coverage
Since most users need as much wireless coverage as possible, most of them configure their Express devices to "extend" a wireless network so devices will have a better signal in the more remote location.
In order to configure the Express to "extend", you must configure both the AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express
Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility 5.6
Select the AirPort Extreme and click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the row of icons
Make sure that there is a check mark entered next to "Allow this network to be extended"
Click Update to save changes
Now, configure the Express again to "Extend a wireless network"
Please post on your results

Extending an existing wireless network using Time Capsule

I connected my Time Capsule via Ethernet cable to my network. I used the airport utility to extend my existing wireless network (Cisco router)k. After that my wireless devices were disconnected and I got a message stating "Unable to join wireless network". The macbook that I used to set up the Time Capsule showed a message along the lines that a device on the network was trying to use the macbook's IP address, I changed the macbooks IP address and then was able to connect my ipad and iphone to the wireless network but the connection was unusable as it was so slow. has anyone done this successfully and if so do you have nay advice

If you connect the TC to the network by ethernet you do not extend an existing networking.. indeed you cannot.. only works with apple routers and no ethernet.
You create a wireless network.. you can use roaming .. ie use the same wireless name and security settings as the existing Cisco router but you must set different channels.
If you need instructions in that setup what version airport utility are you using. I would strongly recommend a version 5.. it is so superior cf toyland v6.

How to extend a wifi network of third party router with TC 4th generation?

After searching the communities for a while, I did not find a definitive answer on the following question:
- I recently bought a 4th generation Time Capsule 2TB (MD0322/A), that I also want to use as an extension for our existing wifi network.
- This wifi network is maintained by a Sitecom Wireless 300N XR Gigabit Router. Router is set to work over 2.4 GHz (B+G+N) because of several non-N-wifi devices in the network. The channel in use is currently 11.
- This router provides so called WDS functionality, i.e. the ability for other wifi access points to act as a seamless extension of the basic wifi network (using the same SSID).
- The security settings in the router are WPA2 Mixed, with a password in plain ASCII.
- There seems to be no way to set different security levels for WDS-connections versus normal AP (access point) connections. If WDS is enabled, the security settings of the AP-mode are extended to the WDS connection.
I have set the Sitecom router to enable WDS, and added the MAC-address of the TC in the configuration of this router.
When configuring the Time Capsule, with Airport Utility 5.5.3, I can select the option to use TC to extend an existing network, and I can select the network of choice using the WPA personal or WPA/WPA personal security. However, the TC does not succeed in extending the network, and reports this back. If I manually configure the TC and select the network of choice, Airport Utility reports back that the selected network cannot be extended.
I have read several times in other posts that Time Capsule can only connect to third party routers via WDS using WEP-authentication, but these posts were quite old. I was wondering if this is still the case, or that Apple has updated this functionality in newer versions of TC, and thus there could exist a trick to connect to a WDS using WPA.
I really would appreciate suggestions
Bram Bos

gilles13 wrote:
I have a mac and pc (win7) both are connected thru a network with wifi and allready two access pt.
Airport can not be used to extend a WiFi created by a non-Apple box.
You need to turn off the radio in the router (shut down the existing WiFi). Purchase TWO Airport Express units. Connect one to the router with an Ethernet cable. Configure that one as your primary WiFi network and then use the second Express as the extender.
You need to locate the second Express where it receives a decent WiFi signal. Too far away and it has nothing to extend. Too close and it doesn't buy you anything. Before you plug in the second Express, check to see where the primary WiFi disappears completely. My personal WAG is that you want to locate the second Express 2/3 the distance to that point.
If you use Airport Utility to configure the units, it's a snap. In fact, if you configure the primary first and the extender second, AU will default to exactly the settings that you want.
By the way, I refereed to the Express because it's less expensive than the Extreme and you didn't indicate any need for the Extreme features.

HT4262 Can I extend a WiFi Network, using a 802.11n Airport Base Station with a 802.11g Airport Express?

Having a new Apple AirPort Extreme (802.11n) I need to extend the network since even the AirPort Extreme provides after about 30 Feet maximum only 50% signal strength in 2.4 GHz and maximum 41% signal strength in the 5 GHz band.
I have an Apple Airport Express (802.11g) but I am not sure that it can extend with it the network to get a better signal strength?
I know I can only use the Apple Airport Utility 5.6 to access the AirPort Express, but I can see also the AirPort Extreme though it (5.6).
Also, it seems that my "old" Wireless Motorola Cable Modem (SBG900) for the same distance (about 30 Feet), which is a 802.11g, gives still a better signal strength (62%) than the Apple Airport Extreme...
I guess I need the proper instructions how to, if it is possible.
Any intelligent answers available? Thanks.

This is very confusing. The AirPort Express Base Station has three settings (under "Wireless" in the AirpPort Utility 5.6) "Create a wireless Network", "Participate in a WDS network" and "Join a wireless network".
Whereas the first is self-explanatory the second and third seem to indicate, that a relation with an existing Network can be created. This is also indicated, when selecting as the "Wireless Mode:" "Join a wireless network" and then selecting "Wireless Network Name:" where then all available networks 802.11 b/g/n pop up you can choose which to use.
Now, it does not make any sense, that if all these settings and selections are available, that the AirPort Express cannot extend an existing network, considering that the AirPort Extreme, which is a 802.11b/g/n can be connected to. Even the AirPort Utility 6.0 sees the AirPort Express 802.11b/g but when selected alerts that "This version of AirPort Utility doesn't support this base station. Use AirPort Utility 5.6 to configure or manage this base station. AirPort Utility 5.6 is available at AirPort Service and Support." And as said, that AirPort Utility 5.6 sees everything and has said setting options.
The way as I see this it is, that if I can pickup an existing network, created with an AirPort Extreme 802.11b/g/n with an AirPort Express 802.11b/g and have the option to "Join a wireless network" such AirPort Express should be able to broadcast the picked up and joint network. Otherwise the setting options for the AirPort Express are nothing else than a distortion of reality to me.
Also, before I got the new AirPort Extreme 802.11b/g/n I had an AirPort Extreme Base Station 802.11b/g (gray) and there I was able to extend the network via the AirPort Express 802.11b/g.
So the above comments do not make sense to me.
Hope you understand that and have a better explanation available.

Airport Time Capsule : extension to existing network

My new Airport Time Capsule just want to create its own network, but I want it to extend my existing network. When I pick "other options" and "add to an existing network" nothing happens??

Not if you want to connect the Time Capsule using wireless. It must connect using a permanent wired Ethernet connection.
The Time Capsule would only extend/work using wireless if you had another Apple router....Not a BT router.

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