32 bit HDR Images (Edit in) problems

I'm using Lightroom 4.3 and Photoshop CS5 12.0.4 64x on a 27" iMac with 16GB RAM.
I have used the 'FILE - PLUG IN EXTRAS - MERGE TO 32BIT HDR' (Photomatix plug in) command to create a series of HDR images, which I have subsequently tone mapped in Lightroom.
Now I want to merge the resulting .tif files in to a panorama, I have tried 'PHOTO - EDIT IN - MERGE TO PANORAMA IN PHOTOSHOP' and 'PHOTO-EDIT IN- OPEN AS LAYERS IN PHOTOSHOP' but neither work.
Lightroom appears to start the process as I get the RAW 7.3 Warning box, I click 'OK' and then the Photomerge dialogue box opens in Photoshop with my .tif files selected. I again click OK but nothing happens.
I have tried closing down and restarting both Lightroom and Photoshop, I have rebooted my iMac but still nothing.
Can anyone offer me any advice or assistance please?

...well I suppose Adobe have to try and keep the money rolling in somehow
That is correct, and I like your attitude .
People who pay thousands of dollars on hardware should not complain too much about hundreds of dollars in software. Complex software takes a huge amount of time to develop and maintain - companies that produce it must get paid for it... - it ain't charity work... profit margin is very thin, not fat (has to be that way to remain competitive). Adobe makes good money by selling a lot of copies, but rest assured: they could not price things much less or accept less income in one place without getting more in another - otherwise they'd go out of business.
Movie and sports stars have fat profit margins - not software companies...
Cheers,
Rob

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