3200 overclock advice

I am new to overclocking the A64's. I would love it if someone would give me a starting point
cheers

Quote from: skippy9146 on 02-March-05, 21:44:07
Well, it's was "odd" because I though you guys were referring to 90nm CPU's. Your 130nm has prob been "bored-out" by excessive electron flow anyhow & requires more juice just to "do business".
LOL, what? I have never seen anything like this ever happening to a CPU from either AMD or Intel brand... yet I have seen a couple that eventually died, and it was something similar... but after years of work, not just 2.5 months
The 3500+ could run at 1.38 volts at stock speeds for days running Prime95 Blend test, which points to the conclusion the motherboard was having problems with the vcore even from the start. I believe its a mirage, a lie, a "caca de toro" to any voltage setting you can adjust the K8N Neo2, vcore or vdimm... 1.625 volts according to CPU-Z could very well be just 1.55 volts, that could explain why a brand new 3200+ could only run 2.6 ghz with max vcore.
Then there is the problem of the vdimm 3.3 or 5 volt being all bad, which in time destroyed the OCZ Plat Rev2... yes Skippy, I had to RMA the memory as well. OCZ told me it was a "well known fact" for this MSI motherboard to play tricks like this, making TCCD RAM unworkable after just a few months and all because of the wrong voltage. This was the first K8N Neo2 which made all the problem... second was the one exploding
DFI motherboards are as good as MSI... or in other words, you either get the 1 in a million which is good, or get the other 999,999 and have a ton of problems. I am not going to buy any other brand of motherboard again, not DFI much less MSI... I am sticking to what I know it works... funny how Abit is always last to release motherboards
The motherboard I am getting is the new Fatal1ty AN8... after a lot of consideration and actually watching one doing 300+ mhz I believe thats a strong motherboard. Will have to test one myself personally, hehe after all its only a little a friend let you do to his system before he kicks you out of his house
FYI, the MSI K8N Neo2 also had 1.85 volts vcore... somehow MSI removed it with new BIOS versions. If you had a 3200+ you would understand what I am saying, they literally put a limit of 2.6 ghz to all A64 CPU's (overclocked)... to be able to pass this mark it would require more juice, or else all my calculations are wrong because of two MSI K8N Neo2 bad motherboards; one thing is bad, the other is worse
Check this user review: http://www.doomedpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=826
What do you think ?

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MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R/P4 2.4C/Corsair XMS 3200 Overclock Settings?

Sorry to bother everyone. I'm going to be switching out my Intel 865PERL cause it only offers a 4% overclock, so I'm barerely scratching 2.5Ghz.
Plus, the funky lights on the MSI board will go nice with my all-red lit case. Anyway, back to the matter at hand:
All I've really been able to find online is information geared towards the 865 Neo-FIS2R model and overclocking, plus the stuff on the Corsair XMS PC3200 seems to all be posted prior to JEDEC approving the 3200 standard. So all the overclock info is back when they were using the XMS 3200 with AMD processors and overclocking to reach 400FSB or a bit higher.
I was hoping to get my 2.4C Ghz w/800mhz FSB up to a good 2.7Ghz, maybe even 3.0Ghz. And I want to bump up my DDR as well (I assume I'll have to anyway, and lock my multipliers on the PCI and AGP ports?) I have an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro All-In-Wonder.
I wasn't sure what I should set the DDR to (I have 2x256MB modules that will run in dual-channel)
I use Artic Silver III or 5 Thermal Paste, and I have six case fans (one top blowhole, one side window, two front intake, two rear pushing air out, plus PSU, CPU, northbridge, etc.)
While I've built systems for quite a few years now, I'm fairly new to overclocking and wasn't sure where I should begin? Thanks for any help with settings advice!

Alright, while I wait for the new memory to arrive, I decided to get a headstart on my first overclocking attempts.
I installed the new PSU and set to work. Here is where I ended up:
BIOS SETTINGS
DRAM=333mhz (underclocked 400mhz DDR)
Spread Spectrum=Disabled
CPU Clock=224
AGP/PCI= 67.01/33.50
CPU VCore = 1.5250V
DDR Voltage= 2.50V
AGP Voltage = 1.60V
This setup is stable insofar as it gets my system to boot into windows. I haven't done much else with it as of yet.
If I try a 225 CPU Clock then my system won't boot and I have to clear the CMOS. I tried this with my DDR at 266 and 333 (and it's 400mhz rated and has worked at the speed just fine before, so I don't think it's the Corsair XMS stuff)
Do I need to increase the Voltage to my CPU in order for this to work or is there something else I'm missing? I figured I should be able to get this 2.6 up to 3.0 easy, and was hoping to shoot for somewhere between 3.2 and 3.7 if possible.
My CPU is labeled Malaysia, and I've heard those tend to overclock pretty well. Inside my case the heatsink is cool to the touch, as are my hard drives. Sound Card is a bit warm, but nothing crazy. My ATI card is pretty hot though, although the increase from 66 to 67.01 on the AGP port shouldn't be too bad, and from what I recall this sucker was always hot anyway.

Newbie overclocking advice part II

I have the 865PE NEO2 with a pentium 2.8 cpu and 2 512 matched sticks of kingston khx3200ak2. Currently without any overclocking running
cpu at at 28 degrees C with very large thermalright copper heatsink and 92mm fan and very stable without a hitch. win xp, cpu 2.8, ram as indicated, 1 eide 120 gig hd, dvdrom, dvdrw, 480watt psu, ati radeon 9800pro.
I followed the board advice getting my system to a 235 fsb and 3290 cpu speed with dram frequency set to 333mhz.
I lock up in unreal tournament if I go to a 240 fsb and I cant even load windows with 245 fsb.
Should I settle for an approximate 3.3 cpu speed or are there any other tweaks that will increase performance? My average CPU temp is only about 34 C.

Well, if you're gonna overclock you may as well get try to get up to 250 so that the ram is running at its spec(400). If the CPU is failing and temps are still below 55 or so, you'll be able to get a little more out of it by raising the Vcore. I'm no expert on this but 1.6v is probably safe for a start since it sounds like you have some decent cooling.
I'm sure someone else will post with more details on how high you can push the Vcore.

2x 512mb PQI Turbo 3200- Overclocking

I just pick up 2x 512mb of PQI Turbo 3200 sticks and been overclocking them to see what i get. My processor seems to like mulitplier 9.5 for some reason. I got the FSB at 250 which makes my system at 2375Ghz. I am using Raid on SATA 3&4 where you should have it for overclocking. Now here is my question. I also have my storage drive on SATA 1. I cant overclock hardly at all when my storage drive is connected to SATA 1. As of right now i have it off. Is this because 1&2 are not locked and fouling out the Harddrive? Anyone with high overclock using a drive on SATA 1?

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yea, it really seems to like 9.5 multiplier, kinda funny.
I've got some interesting news for you!
Athlon 64's don't have half-multipliers! When you set 9.5 in the bios, its re-mapping to 9 or 10 (can't remember which) and adjusting the FSB to get the frequency you asked for.
Since CPUz (and similar) are picking up their data from the bios too, you can't actually tell that this is happening, but it is. Athlon64's only have integer multipliers.
Chip
prove this. the one article i saw that supported this took back their word and decided that they were wrong.
I think "Please would you mind proving this" is perhaps what you meant?
Anyway, it is Christmas, so I assume you were just in a hurry.
I did not believe it myself, but it is what I had heard. When I researched it, I came across the "BIOS and Kernel Developer’s Guide for the AMD Athlon™ 64 and AMD Opteron™ Processors - 26094 Rev 3.14 Aprill 2004", published by AMD. On page 310 it clearly shows all of the multipliers, and they are all integers - from 4x to 25x in 1x steps.
Now, whether the chips will do half-multipliers, but maybe its just not supported, don't know.
Chip

K9N2 SLI Platinum w/ Phenom II 940BE - Overclocking Advice?

So I am wondering if any other USERS out there, can give any advice on how they've managed to overclock their Phenom II 940 "BE"s on an MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum motherboard?
Now that I got my board running rock solid and stable, I am interested in venturing in this territory and I am curious as to what sort of "stable overclocks" others have achieved and how you configured to achieve such?

Quote from: TheCello on 02-April-09, 01:55:00
I have mine @ 3.4GHz on stock vCore w/ bios 3.3 (vCore is at 1.375ish) with the multiplier settings and the FSB at 200.
Which sucks, because I don't want the extra voltage. I need my proc to stay under 50C and playing crysis, it reaches exaclty 50C.
This is only a minimal increase in perfrormance tho. What I really want, is to be able to overclock the HT link. unfortunately, if I set it to 2000mhz, I get instant freeze at boot, if it even posts at all. Trying to install BIOS 3.4 today. lets see how it works =)
How are you getting it 2000mhz HT? Raising the HT multiplier will not render a bootup. Incrementally raising HT will get you there....with CPU multiplier raised, a little bit of HT will give better Numbers on the CPU - Say 17 x 215 as opposed to stock 17 x 200. My brother has that board, 215+HT no problem, he has a thermaltake active Heatpipe Northbridge cooler attached to the stock cooling.

A64 FX-53 overclock advice

I am new to overclocking the A64/A64 FX. I would love it if someone would give me a starting point
I got a Neo 2 with A64 FX-53
cheers

Just by looking at your 3dmark01 score I am assuming you have not upgraded your nforce drivers. The latest from nvidia are 5.10. There is also some 6.x beta's out but I would stick to the 5.10 untill you have reached a stabile OC. You should be able to hit 2.6 with stock heat sink and fan, just monitor your cpu temps under load. Use core center or something like it to monitor your cpu temp as you run something cpu intensive like prime95 torture test. I have same mobo and cpu as you so if you have any specific questions feel free to ask. Good luck!

MSI K8N Diamond (MS-7100) O/C Advices...

Hi,
I want some overclock advices about MSI K8N Diamond (MS-7100).
First my full configuration:
AMD Opteron 165 CPU (Default 1800 MHz.)
MSI K8N Diamond (MS-7100) MOBO
Sycthe Ninja 1000P CPU COOLER
1 GB. (2x512 MB.) Mushkin (991093) DDR400 RAM (Default 3-3-3-8 2T)
AOpen H600 B-28 CASE
Tagan EasyCon 530W PSU
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Sapphire X1800XT@PE 512 MB+AC Accelero X2 VGA
Creative Audigy DE@Audigy2 ZS SOUND CARD
Creative Inspire 5200 SPEAKER
Philips 107P5 SCREEN
Now; I O/C'ed my system to 260 FSB, HTT:4x.
CPU is running at 2340 MHz. Memories are running at DDR433 2.5-3-3-5 1T
All voltages are default. Temperatures are: IDLE:38 LOAD:51 with Sycthe Ninja 1000P.
How can I O/C my system further? I need all advices about this mobo and cpu.
With which settings may I run my CPU at 2700 MHz.
Best regards.
Hicksetto

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=93129.0
Yep the thread is long winded and a bit bizar in places if you were not in on the original conversation.
However it does give a load of info to work with if you have a Diamond board. We discuss parts, Overclocking and various other topics of interest.
Some say we should publish that thread to put some poor slobs in colledge to sleep.
Enjoy.

Neo4 Platinum failed to cold boot?

when power up the system, power LED is lighted, the CPU fan is running, everything seems to be ok, but no screen, no BEEP sound--> hang
need to press RESET button many times, then it will boot to OS without any problem, and system is stable
what's the problem?
thanks for any advice!!!
MB: MSI Neo4 Platinum, BIOS: v1.2
RAM: 512MBx2
CPU: K8 3200+, overclocked to 240x10

Hi all, 1st post here.
System specs:
AMD 3000+ CPU Winchester CBBID
MSI K8N Neo4 SLI Platinum with latest bios
MSI NX6600GT video card
OCZ PowerStream 420 PSU
2 x 256mg OCZ Gold rev 3 dual channel set
Asus DVD-Rom E616P2
Maxtor 80 gig SATA pluged in on SATA #4
Floppy drive
WinXP Pro SP2
I am also affected by this cold boot issue when overclocking. Anything above 229 will give me this issue.
The PSU I am using was running 6 months on an Intel rig without issues and the memory is memtest stable upto 250 at stk.
On top of the cold boot issue I was getting a BSOD sometimes when booting into winxp after the Core Center loads. I noticed I had a jumper on the hdd set to master, so I removed it and the blue screens have stopped ... so far. I was told by a friend that I should plug the HDD into #3 or #4 Sata connector which I did.
Vcore 1.45v + 3.3%
NF4 1.6v
Memory 2.7v on auto according to cpuz128 2.5,3,3,8 1T
HT 3x
CPU ratio 9x
I am able to reach 250 HTT speed (FSB) by using clockgen and it passes windows memtest and is OCCT stable.
However, the only way I have found to pass the 229 barrier in the bios and not have a cold boot, is to set the HT multi to 2x or 1x.
Anything more will produce a cold boot.
Since I removed the jumper from the HDD The system has been running without issues at 226 HTT speed (FSB).
I tried to OC past 229 again and got a cold boot at 230 ... again.
I was using a K8N NF4-F before and had the same cold boot issue however, it would not go over 229 unless the HT multi was set to 1x.
If it doesn't post do the following:
If system is on with a black screen, shut down by holding the start button until it does.
Turn off monitor, speakers and switch off on power supply.
Remove the power cord from power supply.
Push the start button until nothing lights up when you do. This will drain any juice left in capacitors.
After doing this you can reconnect the power supply, turn on the monitor, then the switch on the power supply. I have noticed many times that when you turn on the power supply switch the system will start up without pushing the start button.
If it's still dead, do all of the above again and add this extra step:
After you have pushed the start button to remove any power left in capacitors, push the CMOS clear button on the board and hold it about 1 second.
Then reconnect etc etc.
In the countless times I have done this I have never had to remove the battery but that would be the last thing I would try if all of the above doesn't work for you.
If you cleared the CMOS you will need to enter the system time, date and any other settings you had.
I hoping MSI will address this issue.
The only work around so far I found it using clockgen.

[GeForce 6] NX6600GT-VTD128 Video Capture

As many of you probably know, the v1.08 WDM drivers are Macrovision free. However, I can't install them on my NX6600GT-VTD128. I get the notorious "Code 10: Device cannot start" error when I use them. The supplied v4.05 work fine, but are NOT Macrovision free. What am I to do?
System Spec:
(All the latest drivers installed)
MSI K8N Neo 2 (BIOS v1.5)
Athlon64 3200+ (overclocked to 4200+, I love MSI)
MSI NX6600GT-VTD128
Sound Blaster Live! DE 5.1
200GB WD HD (PATA)
480W Thermaltake PSU
WindowsXP SP2

I have exactly the same problem. I have downloaded the latest WDM driver kit from the nVidia site.
After installation two devices are detected. Going through the installation of the the first device (nVidia WDM Video Capture (universal)), this ends with the message that the device cannot be started (code 10).
The second device (nVidia Crossabr A/V) does install and start.
I want to use the video-in on my NX6600-128E for capturing old VHS tapes.
I have tried the WDM drivers both with VGA driver version 72.14 and 77.72. Same results!
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OC Genie and Turbo Boost together

How does that work? What are the pros and cons to either?
I'm running the GD-80, i5 750, 1333 ram, and PSU is Antec Earthwatts 750. Cooling is Prolimatech Meaghalems! Oh my GPU is XFX 5850! Thanks for your help!

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Looking for some advice overclocking my i7 4790K :)

Hello there!
I've changed my whole PC insides last week that I would be able to overclock and push to the limits. I'd like to ask more experienced users about some advices and opinions.
I managed to overclock my i7 4790K to 4800 MHz running at 1.32V as a maximum. Below that value it would BSOD. What I am not certain about are temperatures of my processor.
I made a picture comparing default clock with turbo boost enhancement (4.4 GHz for all cores) and maximum overclock at 4800 MHz with temperatures displayed.
Seems like temps running 4.8 GHz are too high, aren't they? My current cooler is not really high-end, it has a single fan, single radiator and 7 heatpipes. I am thinking to upgrade for a BeQuiet! Dark Rock PRO 3 cooler, it has a double fan, double radiator and 14 heatpipes (7 on both sides). I am not interested in liquid cooling, just to prevent unwanted advices about it
Do you think there would be much difference between my current cooler and this BeQuiet?
Here are clocks, voltages and temperatures, made after a while of tortures using Prime95 software:
What do you think?

Allright, so it is most probably my cooler that isn't very efficient as it seems. That BeQuiet! I mentioned costs triple the price of my Fortis 2, looks powerful, guess I will stick to the idea and go for it then. Zalman cooler doesn't really look like hell of a cooler, hehe
Quote from: Sea Dog on 05-July-14, 05:37:04
Typical with Intel are variations within the same CPU models. Some are good CPU OC'ers and some have a strong IMC. Tonight at our family 4th of July gathering, I will be taking home a Z97 Gaming 7 with 4790k that belongs to my uncle to play with for awhile. I do know the performance optimization with his particular system ended up being 46X and 2666 Ram speed. 47X performance had flattened out, and 48X saw a slight decrease in performance. It did run 48X @ 1.299v's (DMM), 62C under load with ambient 25C. CPU cooler used is a Zalman CNPS9900Max-R. As previously mentioned, keep the CPU temperature below 73C when under stress.
May I ask under what conditions you had such temperatures? What stress software was in use?
My first try was 4700 MHz, it was running stable at 1.29V. You say it's not worth it to push for 4800 MHz? I'm looking for a maximum possible FPS in games, unfortunately I couldn't yet test anything as my MSI
GTX780Ti is still under warranty fix (fan issue).
Edit:
Quote from: Sea Dog on 05-July-14, 04:50:11
Judging by the 44X, to keep under 72.72C with the current installed cooling solution, you 'might' make 45X or 46X within the Intel published temperature limit.
Indeed 45/46x keeps acceptable temperatures. With better cooler I should be able to reach 4700MHz below 75-73 degrees. What is actually the risk of running CPU too hot? Over these 73 degrees?
Quote from: Nichrome on 05-July-14, 05:16:16
Nice OC but these temps won't let your CPU last for long. Make sure they're below 72*C as maximum.

Overclock 3200+

I cannot Overclock my 3200+ CLawhammer above 2.25GHZ, and some time at this speed it starts automatically. Temperature shows 50C and when you take off the side cover it will be in low 40C's but this problem is still there. Can some body help me i have MS-6741 Motherboard.

The fact that you have a 3200+ clawhammer is probably what's holding you back the most. Most of these are of the CO stepping which is not particularly good for overclocking. The CG and CH steppings I believe are better for overclocking. These arrived at the same time as the newcastle cores. You should run CPU-Z which you can get at http://www.cpuid.org and check the revision. My CPU is an SH7-CO revision. These are the early chips that don't overclock as well (although southmike has bucked the trend). Also, without an AGP/PCI lock, anything connected to the PCI bus or the AGP bus could be the weak link holding you back. You didn't list the type of your hard drive in your signature...SATA drives will definitely hold you back. I've heard the safe limit for them is about a 10 percent overclock before you have to worry about disc corruption. If you are using SATA, I believe that the Promise controller is better for overclocking than the Via.

Overclocking 3200+ (Clawhammer CO)

Just got this board and must say it's a decent board and feels a lot better than my old K8V-SE. Ive updated to the official 1.3 bios but im not getting very good overclocking results.
Im getting to about 225 then nothing. It's not like the core is maxing out but something is holding it back. (Setting ram to 166 but it can do 240FSB in a NF7-S so it's not the ram)
CPU steppings
ADA3200AEP5AP
CAAMC 0347XPMW
9360125k30300
System specs
MSI K8N Neo
A64 3200+
1024mb Corsair PC3200LL
74 GB raptor (could this be the problem)
Asus 9800XT
Im willing to try beta bios and any tips etc would be sweet as im still a newbie to this board

post the max amps on 3.3v 5v and 12v rails on the psu as its possible its the psu that limits you.

3200 overclock advice

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