32bit output from ACR when processing HDR images

As said above, why does ACR not support 32bit output for HDR images that are processed in it?
I read this discussion too, but since the situation changed now, it would be nice to have 32 bit output from ACR.
Is there still anything that speaks against it?

The way in which I manage this is to batch-convert a series of progressive exposures in ACR 7.1;
Select all of those files in Bridge and use Tools/Photoshop/Merge to HDR Pro and
Save as 32-bit.tif (floating);
Then open that Tiff in ACR 7.1 to refine the editing (making full use of the Adjustment Brushes);
Finally, I open the file directly from ACR into Photoshop CS6 as a ProPhoto RGB 16-bit Smart Object and finish the image.
This works beautifully and produces very smooth and wide DR images without those horrendous HDR grunge haloes.
While you could do part of this in LR 4.1 if you wished, you do need Photoshop CS6 for some of the steps.

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I am wondering how I can open multiple pictures in ACR from IPHOTO to process?
Thanks a bunch..I have been trying to figure this out forever!!
Jenny

I'm not sure it's possible to do it directly from iPhoto. It's frustrating me as well!
In the Finder, if you have multiple raw images selected and right-click and select Open With Adobe Photoshop Elements, it will open in ACR with all the image preview to the left. You can then select one, some, or all of them and apply the same settings.
In iPhoto though if you select multiple raw images and right-click and select Edit in external editor, the images will open one at a time.
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In CS5.5 my workflow involved selecting a number of RAW files and opening in ACR. I could make corrections as required, but also apply individual crops to each image. For instance, twenty might be set to 10"x8", another ten to 15"x12" and thirty to 8"x6". When I then clicked done. I could run image processor on the files and point to a hotfolder on the network which was watched by the RIP running the printer. The RIP could then pick up the files, composite them, and start the print queue. it was a hugely efficient system.
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Click Save Image button, choose preset you made for format/file specs, click Save.
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If you can accomplish your entire workflow in Camera Raw, and if I haven't misunderstood what you need, this could end up being a more efficient workflow overall by saving the trip out to Image Processor.
Of course, this assumes you've set up presets (a relatively new ACR feature) for your standard dimensions and file specs so that you can keep the number of clicks to a minimum.

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http://forums.adobe.com/message/2870234#2870234

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I run Windows 8.1 x64 bit on my new PC and use PSE11 which opens raw files automatically into ACR. Once I've finished editing an image in ACR I then click on 'Open Image' which transfers the part edited file to the PSE11 Editor. Once there I perform a few additional tweaks before cropping, sharpening and saving as a jpeg.
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CanonMan49 a écrit:
Thanks for your reply Michel ...
The colour setting in both Editor and Organiser is: 'Always Optimise Colours for Computer Screens'
I believe this option will select the sRGB colour space by default and that the option 'Always Optimise for Printing' will default the colour space setting to Adobe RGB. Is this so? I only print occasionally (most of my viewing is on the monitor or the TV) but it would be nice to know if the chosen colour space chosen produce this odd effect I'm experiencing (although I sincerely doubt that it's got anything to do with it).
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My camera (EOS 5D MkIII) is always set to sRGB. Is this significant?
No for raw files. That's used only for the in-camera conversion to jpeg. It's a simple tag which is ignored in the ACR conversion process (see above).
The main issue though remains, namely the fact that part edited images look washed out in PSE Editor in spite of looking just fine in ACR a split second earlier, so I'm still looking for a remedy.
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Context is that I'm doing HDRI images for rendering so dynamic range is the most important aspect.
I searched hard but didn't found a way to export from ACR into a floating point format which is very very very annoying because if you export as 16bit tiff it will obviously clip whatever values you have in your raw file. I can load the raw / dng files directly into Photomatix / Oloneo but then I'm losing any kind of Camera Profile / Distortion profile embedded with them.
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Frequently I will quickly click and drag from top left to bottom right. The crop line then sits around the perimeter of the image. Then I will move the curser to the sides-top-bottom of the image and adjust it up or down for the desired crop, such as if I make a pano. In CS 3 this worked like a charm.
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My time on the Aperture beta team is over.

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