3d experience and msi nx6600gt td128e/k8n sli platinum

just finished installing all the drivers updates etc for my new system...
installed the 3d turbo experience prgm that came on the cd with my graphics card. the prgm runs at startup, but when i go to open the main window i get the following error
MSIVGA.ocx initialization error
how can i fix this and get it to work????

Read the stickies, there's a thread "Alternative to MSI drivers and Overclocking too" there is a link to the DOT page at MSI, it's pretty straightforward.
MSI's DOT is a Dynaminc overclocking utility that takes most of the guesswork out of it and is supposedly safer than manual overclocking.

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MSI NX6600GT-TD128E SLI Help

Hi all
I have two Problems.
1. I can’t OverClock my MSI NX6600GT Cards in SLI
2. If I run a fast game like Colin McRae Rally 04 or Colin McRae Rally 05. After 3 -5 min of playing the game, The Pc screen will slit in two & the bottom half of the screen will go all funny. And then the PC will Lockup.
Any help.
PS. I'm not getting very good score on AquaMark3 only 57,000 But was getting 63,000.
Amd winchester 939 3200+
1Gig of Kingston pc3200 512M
Asus A8N-SLI
MSI NX6600GT-TD128E X 2 (PCI-Express)
600w power supply
1xLED fans
2xExhaust fans

If the game is using a profile that uses SFR the screen is split in two horizontally ... pls see below
Single frame rendering
Single frame rendering (SFR) mode in NVIDIA SLI works similarly to Metabyte’s PGC in the sense that the graphics card splits the workload horizontally across the screen. One card takes the upper portion while the second card takes the lower segment. The frame buffer data is then combined and sent to the monitor.
It’s important to note that SFR doesn’t necessarily split the screen directly down the middle; in some scenes the lower portion of the screen may be more complex than the upper portion, or vice versa. NVIDIA has developed custom load-balancing algorithms that are designed to take this into account, and split the screen appropriately – if one GPU takes longer to render, no problem, the driver just gives that GPU less work to do.
Alternate frame rendering
Up to now, ATI’s Rage Fury MAXX was arguably the most well known card to take advantage of alternate frame rendering. Rather than splitting the work up every frame like in SLI, with AFR, each graphics core handled alternate frames. Graphics core one would handle everything in frame 1, while graphics core two would then handle frame number 2. Each chip renders every other frame instead of alternating lines in the same frame, as 3dfx had done with scan-line interleave. If one GPU doesn’t finish drawing its frame, the remainder is pushed to the second GPU. This is the same concept NVIDIA has employed for their SLI technology, only we’re dealing with two distinct graphics cards, rather than two graphics cards on the same core.
The most well known downside with AFR has been perceived “lag” that may be felt by some twitch players in very fast-paced first-person shooters such as Quake 1 or Quake 3. The argument is that user inputs, such as a quick flick of your wrist to nail your opponent in mid-air with your rail gun may feel lagged. In theory, this could happen when the second AFR scenario we described occurs – GPU1 doesn’t finish its frame and the remainder is passed to GPU2 – there could be a lag between the key being pressed and the output being shown on the screen. Ironically enough, NVIDIA used this same argument to tout their GeForce 256 over Rage Fury MAXX five years ago.
We played a little Half-Life 2 (which uses AFR by default) to test out this theory, but didn’t perceive any additional lag during our “testing” sessions. Buffering kicks in when data is split between GPUs, and it appears to work well. Also keep in mind that today’s shooters aren’t as fast-paced as they were a few years ago.
Currently, AFR is NVIDIA’s preferred mode for SLI. In general, AFR uses less communications overhead (as no communications overhead between GPUs is used as long as frames are contained to each GPU), allowing it to scale better than SFR. NVIDIA also says that applications with heavy vertex loads benefit less from SFR.

Is there a big difference between MSI K8N SLI and MSI K8N SLI Platinum motherboa

i am a bit tight on budget, so I was wondering if I should get the MSI K8N SLI motherboard instead of the MSI K8N SLI Platinum motherboard (my previous choice),.......what do u guys say ?

Hi,
Note that he is not talking about the Neo4 versions, looks like in the US MSI has different products:
Here is the K8N SLI:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=681
And here is the K8N NEO4 SLI:
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4/SLI&class=mb
One has Sound blaster, the other does not.
Besides, K8N SLI Platinum has only one LAN.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=641
While the Neo4 Platinum has two.
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4_Platinum/SLI&class=mb
A bit confusing right !? Remember that this forum is accessed by people all over the world.
The thing is that the Neo4 and the related non-Neo are using the same BIOS AFAIK.
wpr

MSI K8N SLI Platinum and 4x512 DDR

Hello everybody,
My problem is with a 2nd kit of 2x512 MB DDR I bought recently. I had a pair of Kingston KHX3200ULK2 512 MB and unfortunately this model was discontinued, so I got another 2x512 MB DDR, this time Geil UltraX which should work @ 5-2-2-2-1T.
When leaving everything on auto, the motherboard sets the 4 modules at DDR333 with the tightest timing. I want to run them in DDR400, so I set them up manually @ 5-2-2-2-2T. In this config, everything is unstable. Sometimes the system doesn't boot, sometimes I get blue screens, etc.
Can somebody help me with some ideas ? The system appears to run stable with timings setup at 6-4-4-2-2T, but I really paid a lot on those modules and I'd like to squeeze the most out of them.
Thanks in advance
System config following (not overclocked)
MSI K8N SLI Platinum
AMD64 4000+ Clawhammer
2x512M DDR Kingston KHX3200ULK2
2x512M Geil UltraX 5-2-2-2-1T (don't have the P/N)
Gainward Ultra 3500 PCX

Quote from: SIGSEGV on 10-November-06, 02:35:19
Latest test I did: DDR400 with 5-2-3-2-2T. Ran Prime95 for more than 4 hours and no errors. Still have to check with some games, maybe a 3DMark in loop.
Will come back with updates.
Thanks.
it's nice to be right

Any known problems: MSI K8N SLI Platinum + seagate 7200.9 sata2 hdd?

Hi all.
I planning to buy Seagate sataII 7200.9 250GB drive (model: ST3250824AS) very soon (finally they are in stock in my city), but first i want to know is there any incompatibility issues or other problems with such combination - MSI K8N SLI Platinum + seagate 7200.9 series hdd.
I don't have any experience with sata2 drives yet. Currently i'm using seagate 7200.7 120GB IDE hdd.
I don't plan use RAID or use that new 7200.9 drive in combination with current 7200.7 drive (will use current hdd in other pc).
Any tips/experience would be great.

Seagate SATA II 7200.9 250GB drive (model: ST3250824AS) has both 3 G/bps speed and NCQ (Native Command Queuing) most all MB’s with the nVidia Chipsets using the nForce4 chip will have problems. If they are not using RAID and you reduce the speed to 1.5 G/bps with a single drive you maybe able to get it to work. Personally, I know the MS-7125 and MS-7220 both will not run RAID with those to motherboards.
I have been battling with MSI and ASUS over this problem sense November and they have not come up with a fix. Problem involved BIOS and RAID Controller Driver for the chipset. Most MSI motherboards latest BIOS have fixed the BIOS half of the problem. There is an unreleased 32-bit driver for Windows, but nothing for Windows XP 64.
Roger

Difference between K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI and K8N-SLI Platinum

Hey guys.... I have one question and i hope you can help me.
I'm about to get an MSI SLI Platinum motherboard, but it seems that there are two versions, the K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI and the K8N-SLI Platinum.
What is the real difference between them? As i can see in the manual, the Neo4 version has the additional SATA2 and Gbit LAN controller.
Anyone: Does your K8N-SLI board have 4 or 6 SATA2 ports? and 1 or 2 LANs?
At this picture http://www.midtdata.dk/asp/index.asp?varernr=K8N-SLI-PLAT&goto=productinfo&mainfunc=link I can see that there are 6 blue SATA connectors (lower right corner), and 2 LAN ports left to the LPT port... But the description says 4 SATA and 1 LAN, and so says the manual.
To all owners of this mobo: Does this picture look like your K8N-SLI Platinum or does it look like your K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI ?

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=36.0
d/l a raid manual and all should be clear

Is the Hiper Type- R 580 modular PSU compatible with MSI K8N SLI Platinum?

Hey guys, i just recently bought a Hiper Type R 580w PSU after my old PSU went bad.
I installed the new PSU a few hours ago and came across a problem, nothing shows up on screen.
When i turn on the computer, the green light is constantly on including my dvd/rw light.
I double checked everything were connected properly and everything seemed to be connected properly.
The cpu's fan are running properly including the graphics cards and the case's fan but i can't pinpoint whats causing the the green activity light to light constantly including the dvd/rw.
I also tried resetting CMOS but it didn't fix the problem.
So now i'm starting to wonder if it's to do with compatibility issues between the Hiper Type R PSU and my K8N SLI Platinum motherboard.
So i just wanted to know if the Hiper Type R 580 PSU is compatible with the K8N SLI platinum?
I would grately appreciate any assistance.

In short no.
The Hiper Type- R 580 does NOT have a -5V supply line
Although the -5V requirement has been removed from some MSI designs, the MSI page for the K8N SLI Platinum http://msicomputer.co.uk/Products.aspx?product_id=703525&cat_id=77 states:
Quote
MSI Reminds You...
• These two connectors (JPWR1 & JPWR2) connect to the ATX power supply and have to work together to ensure stable operation of the mainboard.
• Power supply of 450 watts (and above) is highly recommeded for system stability.
• For ATX 12V power connection, it should be greater than 18A.
• For this model, you must use the power supply that with a -5V pin supply.

MSI k8N SLI Platinum - dead??

Hello,
I have started the PC as per usual. Pushed the power button... nothing. Then again... nothing. Then I swithed off from the switch near the mains entry. and switched on... PC started however I get nothing on the screen. No beeps.
I have an Antec Truecontrol 2.0 power supply, an MSI K8N SLI Platinum (socket 939) with AMD Athlon, 2 GB Corsair TWINX Ram, three HDDS SATA, Raptor 75GB as Primary (C:) and another two WDS. Video Card: BFG 7800GTX+ 256MB OC, PCI - Express.
System has functioned Ok for three and a half years at least. I have replaced the Northbridge Fan from the beginning with a Blue heatsink - I believe Zalman. No temp issues. No overclocking, I am not using any commander modes etc etc.
When I look at the D-Bracket I get Memory Init Error (RED-GReen-Red-Red). I am pretty sure it is not the RAM. I pulled the RAM, used only one stick... same error.
I pulled the video card out. Then interestingly the system reaches the phase just before booting and the D_Bracket shows Floppy Init error (Green-Red-Green-Green). I tried moving the video card to the second PCI -ex - I also reach the Floppy Error point. I put in a crappy PIC-Ex video card - I reach the same Floppy init point - the floppy actually seeks but does not try to read. Unfort I forgot where I put the Monitor adapter thingy so I can;t check if I get anything on the screen with the crappy PCI-Ex video card. Will get it... soon...
I have a hard time determining whether it is the Video card or the mainboard. I have pulled the battery out, left overnight, pushed the BIOS reset... nothing helped. With Video Card in PCI-Ex slot 1, I get the memory init error. With the card in PCI-Ex slot 2 or with no card or with crappy PCI-Ex, I get to the Floppy Init point.
Could it be that at that point I would be getting a VGA error that I cannot see on the screen ? Why then NO BEEPS? Does this Mobo model not beep, just uses the D-Bracket?
It is important - if it is the mobo I am done for, I have to buy Mobo, RAM, CPU... $1,000. If it is the Video card I may find something 1 slot wide and similar to the BFG ...
Can anyone help narrow this please ?
BTW on the screen I get NOTHING, if I pull out the cable the monitor says - check connection, if I plug it in the monitor goes to power saving.
Thank you Heaps

Quote from: Bas on 19-January-09, 00:17:28
Put a stick of memory in there of el-cheapo brand.
Those Corsairs you have need more voltage to start if I'm not mistaken.
Found out what the prob was - the BFG 7800GTX was DEAD. RMA-ed the card. the MSI Mobo is Ok

MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM NOT OVERCLOCK FRIENDLY AS PROMISED

This mobo is good but its false advertisment to call it overclock friendly.
People are having problems getting ther FSB over 220 and this is a overclocking mobo.
MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM (really disappointed over the mobo)
POINT OF VIEW GEFORCE 6800ULTRA @450/1300 (Really good)
Crusial ballistiX PC4000 (Great memory)
Aspire 520watt 35amp (strong as hell)

Quote from: ALFA on 25-April-05, 10:09:30
This mobo is good but its false advertisment to call it overclock friendly.
People are having problems getting ther FSB over 220 and this is a overclocking mobo.
MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM (really disappointed over the mobo)
POINT OF VIEW GEFORCE 6800ULTRA @450/1300 (Really good)
Crusial ballistiX PC4000 (Great memory)
Aspire 520watt 35amp (strong as hell)
Dear Friend don't get angry too quickly. I also have a socket 939 Athlon 3000+ Winchester. In start MSI K8N SLI Platinum was not allowing me to OC more than 220FSB in BIOS. Although in Windows I can OC it to 2.16 GHZ with NVidia NTune. It's 240FSB. You are facing the same problem that I was facing. Its 219MHZ Bug for Winchester CPUs.
All you need to do is when you are OC'ing more than 219 MHZ, just set you HT multiplier to 1x and you can go upto 260MHZ FSB via BIOS. When you get to the desktop of windows use any software to set the multiplier back to 4x or 5x (depends on how much you OC). Nvidia Ntune is a good software for this purpose. Plz keep in mind that Winchester cores are not too much overclocking friendly CPUs. They won't go beyond 2.4 GHZ and instability is bound to happen after 2.3 GHZ.

So, is a -5V pin supply still required for MSI K8N SLI Platinum or not ???

I am looking to buy a new custom made computer. I want the MSI K8N SLI Platinum motherboard for it. The problem is that the non-USA page claims that it requires the -5V pin supply. I have read many threads on this same topic, but havent found a definitve answer.
Is the -5V rail still needed or not ???
I read somewhere that USA models dont require it, as its not mentioned on the USA site. Well my one will most probably be from Taiwan.....
Is there a check, through which I can confirm whether the motherboard my local hardware store is selling, requires a -5V pin supply or not???
lastly, is that a specific model number, from which onwards, the requirement is no longer needed ????
thanx in advance

I agree with SAB only because mine has been rock solid for quite some time. If I could afford it, I would have purchased SAB's PC Power & Cooling 510 model.
The only other model that seems to have the -5v rail are the OCZ psu. However, I have noticed a lot of users with tagan's and have yet to see someone complain about this psu. Im running the 12v rail as a single rail at 30a...you can experiment with the dual rails and it will adjust to the need of your mobo up to 20a on each rail but then the other rail gets only 10a (at least I think thats how it works).
The tagan 480w u22 was built for the future:
1. has a 20/24 pin main power connector - shielded
2. a 4/8 pin cpu power connector - shielded
3. 2 - 6pin vga connectors - shielded
4. 4 - sata hdd connectors
5. Whisper quiet - you just dont hear it
6. 12v rail at 30a - peak load at startup to 35a for 60 seconds
7. 70% to 73% efficiency rating
Is it enough juice? It seems to me that the manufacturers have realized that pretty soon we will have to purchase $500 psu's just to keep up. So IMO, the manufacturers seem to be getting the point. The new 90nm AMD chips take less power than the 130nm chips...and the new 7800gt video cards take up less power than the 6800gt video cards. In the future, AMD will be coming out with a 65nm chip, which will need even less power.
So I think Im right at the sweet spot with the 12v@30a and its also flexible enough to switch to a dual rail system if I need that feature in the future. Tagan does make a 530w and 580w psu too, but they are not as quiet and you only get 2 more amps on the 12v rail as you go up the line. Just my 2 cents.

MSI K8N SLI Platinum & Apacer PC3200 or PC4000 memory (Apacer chips)

I have a situation here. My Athlon Venice 3000 is stable on 2520Mhz. So when i had Patriot PC3200 & Kingston PC3200 dual kit memory i set in bios 280x9 and a 166 memory divider or 315x8 and a 150 memory divider and got ~229Mhz on my RAM. And now Apacer dual kit modules don't want to work on this frequency in this conditions as i discribed earlier (computer isn't boot up and i have a black screen). But PC4000 modules are working on 280Mhz (280x9 and a 200 memory divider). Any suggestions? Is it incompatibility of my mobo and Apacer memory?
PS: Bios 3.9 or 3.A modded by Murdok.

Quote from: kakarocht on 11-June-06, 16:14:30
List down all your rig including PSU and bios revision and put it in your signature so others can help you. Gd luck.
Mobo: MSI K8N SLI Platinum.
CPU: Athlon 64 Venice 3000(1800Mhz) upto 2520Mhz(280x9 or 315x8)
PSU: Delta 400W.
Bios: 3.9 or 3.A
With Apacer memory (PC3200 or PC4000) i have not working memory dividers (150, 166, 183) except 200. Computer is not boot up (black screen).

MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM OC problem

Hi
This is my first topic.
MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM
Wincheaster 3200+ 90nm
Aspire 520watt 35amp
Point of view 6800ultra
2*512 crusial BallistiX pc4000
My problem is that the pc will not boot after 235 FSB. I have tried with 2*512 pc2700 memory with same result. I have tried diferent memory timing but it wont help, i have add more voltage to the memory and cpu but it wont work either. Im open for any idea.
I hoped to at least overclock the cpu to 2,6 ghz watercoold
Plz HELP

Quote from: filleCarpet on 25-April-05, 09:36:05
Maybe i need to add more electric power for my memorys. The spec says 2.80 volt on 250 mhz but i start to suspect that this is just an minimum requirment, maybe i need more than 3.0 v to operate the memorys on high performance(beyond 230 fsb), but the thing is that BIOS allows me only too add 2.85v maximum.
Im trying to find a newer version of BIOS version 3.1 if there is any....
Here: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/111
v5.0 Beta 4 allows to give 3.10V to the memory but i don´t think it´s going to help you, you probably have the CBBID issue.

MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM or DIAMOND ?

Hey,
I'v problem with choosing new mobo.
I'v MAXTOR DiamondMax 300Gb SATA hdd and i'm not sure
that both mobos will work with my hdd.
I know that MSI K8N SLI Platinum works with Serial ATA II interface and Diamond works with Serial ATA interface.
Does both mobos will works with my hdd or i must to choose: Platinum or Diamond ?

Hi aduh ,
FastEddie's - Which NF4 Motherboard Do I Have may help you.
This thread may also be of interest nForce4 (Neo4) & Maxtor DiamondMax 10 SATA II NCQ compatible?
luck

MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM & Geil PC3200 400MHz CAS 2-5-2-2

I'm thinking of buying a new pair of memory modules, particularly,
Geil Ultra X PC3200 400MHz CL2-2-2-5 DDR.
Has anyone tested them with MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM?
The specifications are:
"PC3200 400MHz CAS 2-5-2-2
GeIL Ultra-X TSOP 32x8 DDR Chips
184pin, Non-ECC, Un-buffered DDR DIMM
Platinum Copper Heatspreader
6 Layers Ultra Low Noises Shielded PCB with Gold 30u" Plating
Temperature thermometers
Retail package
2.55V-2.95V
Lifetime warranty"

I continued with the overclocking to see the limitations of the memory and not only.
I managed to run the modules at 466MHz with 2-2-2-5-1T at 2.85v which was the upper limit.
Unfortunately bios limitations didn't me allow to reach 500MHz as the memory chips could give.
Max voltage at 2.85v.
The ultra x series are out in the market with two chips: Samsung TCCD and Winbond BH-5.
For that I searched and learned that the Windbond BH-5 can't work at CL 3, which I set at system bios.
The system couldn't boot. So I suppose I'm having the coolest BH-5.
It also needs over 3v in order to reach the 500MHz frequency and the necessity of an air cooler above rams.
Maybe in the future with a more overclockable m/b like Stick proposed.

MSI K8N SLI Platinum crashed with my videocard

Hi. I don't speak english very vell, so sorry
A bought an MSI K8N SLI Platinum mainboard, 7800 GTX Videocard and I don't know use it with NON SLI mode If the SLI card there in NON-SLI mode, my pc isn't run. Just black screen, and the D-Bracket is show, that the booting is stopped in memory-control (second LED is red.) If I turn my SLI card for SLI mode, accordingly the PCI-E bus is 8x and my PC is run.
My problem is that, that I don't know run my pc in PCI-E x16
I tried 6 BIOS, but always was this is the problem
Ha van itt magyar ember, akkor magyarul a probléma:D:
Szóval van egy ilyen lapom, de nem tom használni 7800 GTX-el. Egyszerűen nem tudom használni non sli módba, a kép mindig fekete és memória-ellenőrzésnél megáll sli módban meg megy a gép, de csak 8x-os üzemmódba. ugyan ez a hiba egy 6600 gt-vel is. Szóval helllllp

Quote from: ChakkaSol on 30-October-05, 08:57:50
First, search the internet for a free translater program and cut n paste. Second, you need to place the graphics card in the pcie slot next to the cpu. Third, you need to make sure the SLI switch card is placed "non-sli" with the arrow pointed towards the graphics card. Finally, you need to make sure your SLI switch card is fully in place so the copper teeth dont show (I made that mistake and my rig didnt boot either). Just my 2 cents.
1st -- ok
2nd - the video card is there next to the cpu in 1st PCI-E bus
3rd -- the SLI switch card is placed non-sli with the arrow pointed towards the graphics card.
fin --- well, i have no idea about this, 'couse after i've removed the card, i could not push it back to its place fully anymore, so the copper teeth show up. I also tried to force it with a screwdriver, but it didn't work. but i can turn on the card holder

3d experience and msi nx6600gt td128e/k8n sli platinum

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