3D Text Rendering

Hi. I wanted to know why i don't get the full grey background when i render 3d text on a white background. i see many tutorial on YouTube that get this grey background once they render the image

Oh and i am using Photoshop CC

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Text rendering on MacBook Pro differs from PowerBook.

It appears that various applications use a different text rendering technique on the MacBook Pro than on the Powerbook. Camino for instance uses sub-pixel rendering on the PowerBook but standard anti-aliasing on the MacBook Pro. So do Word and MSN and others.
At first I thought it had something to do with the app being universal or not. But Camino is supposed to be a universal binary.
Anyone has a clue about why this difference?
(You can easily see if sub-pixel or standard rendering is used by zooming in with option-cmd-8. Standard rendering has only shades of gray. Sub-pixel rendering uses colors. More on OS X text rendering can be found here: http://daringfireball.net/2003/11/panthertextrendering.)

First, I wonder - does it look good or bad? Or, is this simply a comment that it is different?
Second, and I'll bet this is your answer, is that the difference is most likely due to the type of video card being used. I notice that nothing effects rendering of fonts like the type of video card.
I am interested because I will be doing lots of text work on my MBP, and would like to know if there is an issue with this. I had a notebook (Toshiba) about three years ago that the text was soft and nothing I could do would make it sharper. I ended up dumping the notebook and getting something else. MS Cleartype seems to work to some degree in Windows machines, but I don't see anything like that on my PB. However, the PB is fine as it...
Bob

Font or text rendering problem :(

Hello!
I have a problem in Numbers with text rendering or something like that.
Some characters have wrong representation right in cells. And when I export document to PDF all characters which cross the cell border have white lines.
I already tried to rebuild font cache without luck.
Can anyone help to figure this out?
Thank you!
P.S.
Numbers 2.1, Mac OS X 10.7.2, here is a snapshot:

You already know that but it may be interesting for others.
(1) the OP's document behave the odd way on my machine.
(2) When I insert similar characters in a complementary table in the original document, it behave flawlessly.
Now are new informations.
(3) I copied the content of your tables and pasted values in tables of a blank new document.
With the font set to Helvetica everything was OK.
I tried several fonts.
Avant Garde --> OK
Baskerville --> OK
Calibri --> OK
Arno Pro --> OK
Cochin --> OK
Garamond Premier Pro --> OK
Minion Pro --> OK
Warnock Pro --> OK
Arial --> Odd behavior
This odd behavior doesn't strike in TextEdit or Pages.
So there is clearly a problem between Numbers and Arial
Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 30 janvier 2012
iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.2
My Box account is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

Dynamic text rendering in Cp4

I'm having an issue with an embedded AS2 SWF that spawns a MovieClip containing a dynamic text field populated with ActionScript. When I publish/preview the Captivate movie with externalized animations, the dynamic text renders fine. However, when I do NOT externalize animations, the dynamic text appears garbled.
I'd go ahead and externalize animations in this project, but there are other embedded SWFs in the project that work correctly only when they are not externalized.
Anyone have experience with this or a similar issue?

I just had a similar problem and fixed it by embedding the font into the Flash SWF and also embedding uppercase and lower case characters.
Not sure why this was needed since I never had to do that with Captivate 3, but that was the only thing that corrected the problem.
/Michael
Click here to visit the www.captivate4.com blog

Text rendering property

Firefox 3 supported the text-rendering property.
Does ff8 also support the above property?
From what i have come to understand it does not that is why i am asking, to be certain.
Besides it does not make sense an older version supporting it and and a newer one not.

So, as i understand, firefox 8 '''does not''' support it.

{text-rendering : optimizeLegibility} turns off google webfont in DW CS6 live preview (suddenly)

I'm currently working on two websites for the UN, based on Wordpress, child themes based on twentytwelve and twentythirteen.
I started to work a certain time ago on the child theme for 2012 which uses "Open Sans" fonts.
I don't remember having any problem with this site: everything was working ok, I made a few changes but nothing important.
I turned to the nd website based on 2013-theme, it works perfectly and DW CS6 is a real time saver for creating a child-theme, nonetheless...
This morning I turned back to the 2012-based wordpress site: every text was simply not displayed anymore... only in live preview in DW...
Even with the parent theme, the text was siply not displayed (so don't suggest my css code is bugged or what...)
After a while, I figured out it was not really a problem regarding the font itself, but with the CSS property "text-rendering" with value set "optimizeLegibility".
Commenting out this declaration solved the problem. Nonetheless...
1 month ago there was no problem. Then suddenly...
Is there a problem with the live preview mode and this CSS property? (indeed there is a problem)
Can we have a fix for this? I mean, an update for DW CS6 (not for DW CC) ?
TIA

Hello Nancy!
Normally, according to https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/text-rendering Gecko could take it in charge too, but seems to override this setting (a thing I can understand, Gecko is using a fast rendering engine). So you're right: at this time, it can impact only webkit/chromium engines. Which, as far as I know is the underlying engine(s) behind "Live Preview". And it does impact readibility in DW CC (it improves it).
Personnally I'ls better stick to the real CSS properties for kerning, alternative uppercases and ligatures, BUT the wordpress team seemed to think it was a good idea to use it (along with many other strange ideas such as using rem unit for the layout).
The real thing here is: some weeks ago, when I started to tune the 2012-based theme I use for this site, I'm pretty sure I was able to read the text in Live Preview in DW CS6. I wouldn't have chosen to use this theme with such an annoyance, else. So basically, it's really strange that suddenly this property has such an impact on the "live preview" mode of DW CS6. What I would really appreciate here is a small update/bugfix to DW CS6: I don't need this property to be taken in charge in DW CS6 as it is done in DW CC, I'ld just want this property not to impact the live preview.
Last : I mentionned an update of DWCC being possibly a culprit for this. How relevant could be this statement ? Are "live preview" modes shared by DW CC and DW CS6 ? (Even if, of course, this "bug" is not happening with DWCC).
PS: Thanks a lot Nancy to pay attention to my posts as I often yell a lot here.

Difference in text rendering between PDF and Mars?

I was doing some testing with Mars and stumbled upon what
seemed like suboptimal text rendering. Because it was quite subtle
and I wanted to make sure there was an actual difference, I did a
little comparison between PDF and Mars rendering.
See this image. Can
you see a difference?
I'm still not sure whether there is an actual difference, but
I still somehow got the impression that the upper example (PDF) is
a little more polished then the lower one (Mars). Are different
rendering paths actually used? Will it remain that way?
My SVG for Mars was very simple:
<text font-size="10pt" x="20" y="20" fill="rgb(0,0,0)"
font-family="F0">aex</text>
The PDF was produced with MS Office 2007 and Microsofts Save
as PDF plugin (also at 10pts). The font is Gentium.

The difference *IS* subtle, but you're right -- there does
appear to be a perceptible difference between the two samples.
Without making an in-depth study, it's hard to say whether we
can do anything about this. Even though they're both opened in
Acrobat, the rendering path for a Mars document is *VERY* different
from the path for a PDF document, and many of the events along the
chain are out of the control of those of us writing the Mars
plugin. There are some text-quality issues that I'd like to take
care of in time for our next release, however; perhaps I'll be able
to address this particular issue at the same time.

Ugly text rendering in Safari 5.03 for windows

Text renders really ugly and some times unreadable in Safari.
Not all text but always the text in RSS feeds and the text in this forum.
It's too bold and looks like it is small text that has been scaled up without adding pixels.
Anyone else with same problem or anyone with a solution?

here's what it looks like:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2459424/safari.JPG

Java2D text rendering quality

Dear all,
I am currently trying to get high quality rendering for monochrome text, targeting epaper viewers. I draw strings into a BufferedImage, and display it on my LCD monitor in order to quickly check the rendering quality, before transferring it to epaper. I am encountering some disappointing surprises using Java2D, and cannot get a good output quality:
- TextAttribute.WEIGHT produces only 2 different renderings, regular or bold.
- Fonts appear very very light for sizes up to 17pt, and suddenly appear bold at 18pt+ sizes
I am working under Windows XP SP 2, with JDK 1.6.0. Here follows a small piece of code illustrating the second problem. When comparing output with Photoshop or Fireworks outputs, the results are really disapointing, and I am sure that I am missing something...
Thanks in advance for any help/tip.
Sincerely,
Jean-Marie
import javax.swing.*;
import java.awt.*;
import java.awt.font.FontRenderContext;
import java.awt.font.TextLayout;
import java.awt.font.TextAttribute;
import java.awt.image.BufferedImage;
import java.text.AttributedString;
public class TextRendering extends JPanel {
    private static final int WIDTH = 2000;
    private static final int HEIGHT = 8000;
    private static final int MIN_SIZE = 13;
    private static final int MAX_SIZE = 72;
    private static final int STEP = 1;
    private BufferedImage buf;
    public TextRendering() {
        setMinimumSize(new Dimension(WIDTH, HEIGHT));
        setPreferredSize(new Dimension(WIDTH, HEIGHT));
        buf = new BufferedImage(WIDTH, HEIGHT, BufferedImage.TYPE_BYTE_GRAY);
        Graphics2D g2d = (Graphics2D) buf.getGraphics();
        g2d.setColor(Color.WHITE);
        g2d.fillRect(0, 0, WIDTH, HEIGHT);
        g2d.setColor(Color.BLACK);
        g2d.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_ANTIALIASING, RenderingHints.VALUE_ANTIALIAS_ON);
        g2d.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_TEXT_ANTIALIASING, RenderingHints.VALUE_TEXT_ANTIALIAS_LCD_HRGB);
        g2d.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_RENDERING, RenderingHints.VALUE_RENDER_QUALITY);
        g2d.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_FRACTIONALMETRICS, RenderingHints.VALUE_FRACTIONALMETRICS_ON);
        // g2d.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_TEXT_LCD_CONTRAST, 250);
        FontRenderContext frc = g2d.getFontRenderContext();
        Font f = new Font("Arial", Font.PLAIN, 24);
        int y = 20;
        for (int i = MIN_SIZE; i <= MAX_SIZE; i += STEP) {
            String s = new String(i + "pt- I would like to get a better rendering ! ");
            AttributedString attText = new AttributedString(s);
            attText.addAttribute(TextAttribute.FOREGROUND, Color.black);
            attText.addAttribute(TextAttribute.FONT, f.deriveFont((float)i));
            TextLayout textlayout = new TextLayout(attText.getIterator(), frc);
            textlayout.draw(g2d, 10, y);
            y += i + 10;
    public void paint(Graphics g) {
        Graphics2D g2d = (Graphics2D) g;
        g2d.drawImage(buf, 0, 0, null);
    public static void main(String[] args) {
        JFrame f = new JFrame("Text rendering demo");
        f.getContentPane().add(new JScrollPane(new TextRendering()), BorderLayout.CENTER);
        f.setSize (600, 800);
        f.setDefaultCloseOperation(JFrame.EXIT_ON_CLOSE);
        f.setVisible(true);
}

Of course, the same rendering problem can be observed with the more sophisticated "Font2DTest" example which can be found in the JDK samples: with the Arial font, the text becomes "semi-bold" starting from 18pt size, whereas it is very light for sizes up to 17pt.
Thanks again for any help.
Jean-Marie

Text rendering information

Hi,
Im working on software written in java which wants to do the following:
Get each glyphs of a hello word in any font and rules necessary to assembly them into the word hello.
This software must return h, e, l, o and say h has a width of W and next char must be move of 2 pixels on the left
It has to manage kerning and other stuff.
I know that is the work of the text rendering engine to wrote this but I need the information that it uses to do the job without wrote all code that is necessary to exploit all of them.
I search a little into many forums and others API and project, but Im running out of time and knowledge. Did someone has some information for this problem.
Thanks,

Hi
sorry I mistranslate GlyphVector class (I m french)
Now I think I will found all information that I want with thé functio
that return Shape data :)

Fireworks CS6 text rendering is a disaster

This is text rendered in Fireworks CS6 next to text of the same size produced by Paint.NET, with both using their default settings.
And if we zoom in a bit:
Can you guess which was produced by a product costing $300, and which was produced by a free utility?
Seriously, is this a joke? There is no way I could use the garbage that CS6 is producing in production or to show to a client.

It may be worth adding here that not every typeface will render well at a single, specific small size, like 10px. Particularly at small sizes, different typefaces have different "sweet spots". So a typeface that renders horribly at 10px may actually look quite decent at 9px.
JonR001: If you don't have it already, I highly recommend The Complete Manual of Typography by James Felici (published by Adobe Press!). It's extremely thorough yet readable. I purchased a second-hand 2003 edition at my local bookstore as the more recent updated version seemed to disappoint a lot reviewers.
I suspect that what you're noticing is, in part, an outcome of history. As I understand it, Adobe built its empire on print and making technology that allowed for the production of high-quality print materials. The computer display was just a weigh station in that process, not the final goal. By contrast, Apple and Microsoft have always placed a higher priority on the actual screen output. It seems that Adobe has yet to come up with a way to incorporate both worlds within their software, in terms of typographical output. They're still hanging on to their successful, print-based system.
Let's also keep in mind that, for screen output, it's better to use actual text—rather than an image of text—for at least two reasons, the first being accessibility, the second being type rendering.
I've linked to this article elsewhere, but it's got some great insights into all that goes into rendering type on screen:
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/11/02/the-ails-of-typographic-anti-aliasing/
Interestingly, while doing some quick studies on this, I noticed that Photoshop's interface uses 10px type, but with subpixel anti-aliasing:
Yet Photoshop itself cannot produce this kind of output. (I suppose this is being generated by the Mac OS?)
I also found that, within Fireworks, the CS5 default Custom Anti-Alias setting—8x Oversampling, 192 Sharpness, 64 Strength—seemed to produce the best results:
Then, of course, there's the aliased type option, but that seems to be a sore subject.

Document converted with FlashPaper has bad text rendering.

I converted a Korean document to Flash with FlashPaper but its text rendering was bad like the following screenshot.
But it got better when I scrolled a little or zoomed in/out. Like this.
As you see, the text is softer and easier to read.
I don't know how to solve this problem.

Very glad to know I'm not alone, thanks for the reply! Also, looks like the two of us aren't alone either. There's another thread over at Bleeping Computer that has the same issue:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/566588/did-new-windows-updates-and-now-my-fonts-look-bad/
Microsoft knows about the issue, see "Known issues with this security update" here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3013455
Update: Resolution
Microsoft has released a fix in
KB3037639. Interestingly, at the time of posting this, it looks like Microsoft hasn't released the update into the Windows/Microsoft Update stream. So for now, it looks like a manual download/install is required.
Download links are under the "Resolution" section
here for the affected operating systems. Make sure to select the correct download for your Windows edition.
https://support.microsoft.com/kb/3037639

Staff? Text rendering incompatibility Safari 7.06 and Muse 2014.1.1.6 Websafe fonts render issue

Text rendering incompatibility
Safari 7.06 and Muse 2014.1.1.6
Websafe fonts render poorly when on top of a
‘Browser Fill’ has ‘Image added’ and ‘scrolling’ check box left unchecked’
or when
Any ‘composition is set below the text and composition is set to ‘pin’
Comparison Web safe fonts render
Chrome = all good
Firefox = all good
Safari running on ‘non-retina’ displays = bad
As mentioned these are websafe font / also occurs with self/hosted fonts
unfortunately client is viewing on Ipad that is non retina and uses Safari.
Any work around?
Thanks
Milton

Hi Zak
Thank you for your prompt response.
I have been reviewing this issue on a number of screens an Browsers – I realise the huge hassle of compatibility comments.
Below links and further explanation and screen shots
Thanks again
Milton
Web safe fonts (e.g. helvetica / arial) render poorly when:
Any ‘composition’ is set below the text and the 'composition' is set to ‘pin’
See first scroll page at www.edehorton.com
The top slideshow is 'pinned' and it is this action that creates the issue for text on the whole page.
It also occurs when text is on top of a ‘Browser Fill’ that has an ‘Image added’ and ‘scrolling’ check box left unchecked’
See first scroll page a www.edehorton.com/judaica.html
creates the issue for text on the whole page.
I can remedy these situations by ‘unpinning' the 'compostion’ or placing the ‘pinned' 'composition' above the text
or in the second instance by turning the ‘scrolling’ radio check button in ‘Browser fill’ on.
Screen snap shots below
Comparison 'Web safe font - Helvetica' plus 'Webfont' render
Chrome = all good / Firefox = all good /Safari running on ‘retina’ displays = all good Safari 5.06 on' non-retina' = all good
Safari 7.06 running on ‘non-retina’ displays = bad

OSX 10.5.5 screws up jogl's text renderer

I narrowed down a problem I am having with jogl's text renderer (com.sun.opengl.util.j2d.TextRenderer).
It displays gibberish text with OSX 10.5.5 update. (tested on multiple macs).
I'm stuck and I decided to post here to see if anyone else have the same issues, and perhaps find a solution.
To summarize: com.sun.opengl.util.j2d.TextRenderer displays gibberish text when using OSX 10.5.5 while works fine on previous versions of OSX (and PC).

I ran the gears + text demo form the jogl demo page. My text was extremely corrupted. If I could include an image, I would. It was as if black boxes were overlaid on top of all the characters, making it hard to discern on character from another. Also, the lower-right simply showed FPS: FFF.FF
Source: https://jogl-demos.dev.java.net/
Direct Link: http://download.java.net/media/jogl/builds/archive/jsr-231-webstart-current/Test TextRenderer.jnlp

Apex 4.2 Report region sql query with "apex_item.text" renders wrongly

In APEX 4.2 page i have created region "Report data".
Type="SQl Query".
"User Interface"-->"Template"="Reports Region".
"Region Source"="select apex_item.text(1, '111') as c1 from dual".
Actually the select query is little bit more complex, but generally simplified it is such, that it uses function "select apex_item.text" to construct HTML textfield.
If i run in Sql Developer query
select apex_item.text(1, '111') as c1 from dual;Then result is:
<input type="text" name="f01" size="20" maxlength="2000" value="111" />But in APEX 4.2 the report is rendered so:
<td headers="c1">&lt ;input type=&quot ;text&quot ; name="f01" size="20" maxlength="2000" value="111" /&gt ;</td>(for this forum to display correctly i had to put extra spaces between" &gt" and ";" and so on)
And APEX 4.2 shows ugly html inside report cell/slot for me, displaying characters/symbols ">". The reason is that APEX HTML page source does not have symbol ">" but has " &gt ;" .
In APEX 3 i have similar query working well, without such anomaly.
What attribute should i change in APEX 4.2 region to display my query result as needed?
I need that function "apex_item.text", i cannot remove it.
Edited by: CharlesRoos on 13.02.2013 15:28
Edited by: CharlesRoos on 13.02.2013 15:29
Edited by: CharlesRoos on 13.02.2013 15:29

CharlesRoos wrote:
In APEX 4.2 page i have created region "Report data".
Type="SQl Query".
"User Interface"-->"Template"="Reports Region".
"Region Source"="select apex_item.text(1, '111') as c1 from dual".
Actually the select query is little bit more complex, but generally simplified it is such, that it uses function "select apex_item.text" to construct HTML textfield.
If i run in Sql Developer query
select apex_item.text(1, '111') as c1 from dual;Then result is:
<input type="text" name="f01" size="20" maxlength="2000" value="111" />But in APEX 4.2 the report is rendered so:
<td headers="c1">&lt ;input type=&quot ;text&quot ; name="f01" size="20" maxlength="2000" value="111" /&gt ;</td>(for this forum to display correctly i had to put extra spaces between" &gt" and ";" and so on)
And APEX 4.2 shows ugly html inside report cell/slot for me, displaying characters/symbols ">". The reason is that APEX HTML page source does not have symbol ">" but has " &gt ;" .
In APEX 3 i have similar query working well, without such anomaly.
What attribute should i change in APEX 4.2 region to display my query result as needed?Ensure that the Display As Column Attribute for the C1 column is Standard Report Column.

Text rendered as an image

We have a problem where certain text elements in a Crystal document layout are being rendered as an image.
This causes an issue when using Autodocs as the print service since it needs to intercept text with certain colours to use as its control commands.
The replacement of text with images seems to be quite random and varies from instance to instance when printing the same document several times.
Has anyone seen this before?
SAP version           9.0 PL10
Windows version     Server 2012
SQL version              2008R2
Regards
Rob

Here is a shot fragment of the PDF enlarged to 1600%.
The first line has been rendered as an image and you can see the fuzzy edges while the second line is still in postscript and so looks good.

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