3rd-party mouse drivers

I have a Kensington mouse on my MacBook which uses their Mouseworks software. A search here on "mouseworks" turns up zero, so I wanted to see if anyone with a Kensington mouse had success w/Leopard before I do the upgrade. Without the software the forward/reverse buttons don't work.
I already know now that the driver for the Logitech MX Revolution I bought on Saturday for the G5 isn't going to work as it uses the now-infamous Unsanity APE. Bleh.
(yeah I know about USB Overdrive)

OK, I can now CONFIRM that this problem IS with the latest (but rather old) Kensington V3.0 driver. From Kensington Tech Support:
Subject:
(Info) Expert Mouse & Leopard - scroll ring no longer zooms Mac screen in and out
Discussion Thread
Response (Asif Ali) 11/03/2007 01:05 PM
Thank you for contacting Kensington Technical Support.
I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused to you.
I understand your concern. I regret to inform you that Mouseworks 3.0 on 10.5 breaks the native Ctrl + Scroll to Zoom functionality, but for now the solution is to Uninstall Mouseworks if this functionality is preferred. As we test the Expert Mouse & MouseWorks on the release version of Leopard and found that all functionality/programmability works with MouseWorks installed except for scroll wheel zoom.
However as we have forwarded the issue to our software development team, we are expecting an updated release very soon.
I appreciate your understanding and patience.
Regards,
Asif Ali
Kensington Technical Support

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