3TB Fusion and Bootcamp?

Hi,
I noticed this on the Fusion support page:
Note: Boot Camp Assistant is not supported at this time on 3TB hard drive configurations.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5446
I spend most of my time in Windows as opposed to Mac O/S.  Can I use the bootcamp to atleast run a 2TB partition on the 3TB Fusion drive or it totally wont work?
If I decide to go for the 1 TB Fusion drive instead does the 128gb SSD "cache" work under windows 7 and 8?  Basically is this hardware or software based.  My main cimplaint with the current non-SSD IMAC is that the HD is very slow and so wnated something faster when I upgraded.
Finally, could I just install Windows 7/8 natively on the hardware?  Seems this would be the better solution than any kind of emulation.
Thanks in advance

No you Cannot natively just install Windows on a Mac.  It will not run.  You have to have OS X installed first and then run Windows through Bootcamp or a virtualization app like Parallels.
Hope this helps

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        Size:         1066587906048 B (1.1 TB)
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