4 sticks of memory 400 ddr

i have 4 sticks of memory will only run at 333 ddr dual channel i know guide said 2 stick will run at 400 and 4 stick will run at 333. is there any way i can get it to run at 400 dual channel?
msi k8t neo2-f
fx-55
2 seagate 160 g raid 0
khx3200ak2/1gr kingston hyper x kit (2 kits 4 sticks total each one is 512=2gb total
ati 9800 pro
thank you help

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