5.1 plus stereo audio

Can anyone help me to know how I can render out a quicktime movie with 5.1 surround sound plus stereo pairs on tracks 7 and 8. I'm basically trying to follow the guidelines for Apple iTunes submissions. Can this be done in Premiere CC.
I've been able to make 5.1 surround sound movies by setting the sequence to 5.1 and modifying each of the 6 audio tracks to assign them to specific channels. But I don't know how to add the stereo tracks into the rendering process.
I have found a couple of "work arounds" posted on line like Exporting Multichannel Quicktimes in Premiere Pro | Strypes In Post but none have seemed to work for me. When I follow the instructions not all of the channels play. I've also seen a method where in the sequence settings when setting up the tracks that you alternate the balance pan from -100 for the odd tracks to 100 for the even tracks and then pan the audio in the mixer panel accordingly. However, none of these seemed to work. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Thanks for the reply. Do you have any suggestions for a Windows based
software program that would render the audio tracks together with the video
track to acheive a 5.1 plus stereo mix?
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