5.1 surround sound and removing grain

currently, i'm trying to remove video grain from adobe premiere pro cs4 without paying for plugins. i'm trying to use the remove grain effect found in after effects and then dynamically link it to premiere pro for exporting. However, on after effects, it seems to only export my video as stereo instead on 5.1 surround sound, and the video is a 5.1 surround sound. is there a way i can fix this? is there a way i can use the after effects plugin from within premiere pro? or is there another free alternative solution to remove grain in premiere pro.

Why bother with exporting the sound in the first place? Since you will replace the video in Premiere anyway with the original soundtrack available, what's the point? AE does not support anything beyond stereo, with or without plugins. I'm sure you can find a ton of plugins for Premiere dealing with noise/ grain removal, but if they are really good, they're certainly not free...
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pcm.card0 {
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device 0 #change this to our device
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Last edited by tterranigma (2012-04-12 00:18:59)

Correct about samplerate_best.
Yes, but is there another app that has audio open?
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