508 compliance TouchUp ReadingOrder tool

I'm using Adobe Acrobat X Professional. I'm trying to make a PDF 508 compliant. Certain photos in the PDF don't qualify as tags for some reason, and the TouchUp ReadingOrder tool isn't allowing me to choose a tag region around these photos, all the selection are greyed out when I draw a box over imges that I'm trying to tag manually. Anybody know why this might be happening?

Can you post the PDF to the web and provide a link to it?
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Hi Mukul,
Thanks for the prompt reply!
My compliancy checker sent me the following notes (unfortunately, not as specific as I would like):
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It can be done, but it's a bit of a thorny issue. Here are
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http://viget.com/inspire/a-designers-guide-to-accessibility-and-508-compliance
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Hi,
Attached is my zipped project file. I did create my own buttons in Flash - this might be the problem. I have only been problem solving with navigation on the first four slides.
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Question 1
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I'm opting not to use the playback control skin, only my Flash nav bar.
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When setting up Flash content to be 508 compliant, has anyone encountered any issues in tabbing through the buttons? It seems that the buttons' descriptions aren't being picked up by the screen reader.
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