52 ms input latency on X-Fi Elite pro card/Midi controller prob

Hi, I don't know if someone can help me about this but I just bought an M-Audio keystation pro 88 midi controller and I can't get it to work well with my vst instruments(on my x-fi elite pro card). There is a very noticable delay until I hear the notes I'm playing on the keyboard with non-so-demanding VSTIs.
I noticed that with the creative asio driver selected in nuendo, it has a 52ms input latency which I know is too high. I don't know if that's the answer to my problem but if I trust creative, i should be able to have asio latency as low as one millisecond. So that's already a problem midi controller or not.
I'm sure that these problems can be fixed(asio or controller latency)because I'm able to have no noticeable latency at school with the same vsts and outdated computers way slower than mine connected via midi cables which are also supposed to also be slower than the usb cable I use for my controller.
I thank you for your help if you are to reply to this post and I just want to have a decent sound(not soundblaster synth A or B which are about the only ones i'm able to use in real time)for my expensi've 88 notes hammer action midi controller. I will be very grateful of all the help anyone's going to give me.
EDIT: I don't know why my post can be seen double on the forum index
ps.
I think my question is specific enough to post in a new thread because I already searched the forum for my answer and I haven't found it.Message Edited by Goshyouidiot on -06-200707:38 AM

Are they not just recording audio signals there? The strange thing is that not a single software can detect any midi device on my computer, although there is a midi input in the front panel of the audio card. So this is the way i've done it with windows XP. Just installing drivers from the cd, running auto update and everything worked so fine (memorieeees...) and now I'm not able to record midi signals in cubase?or any other software because the creative vista drivers do not support the midi input of the frontpannel (thats what i think)
I just tried a japanese version of the creative software cd which was modified to work under windows vista. I installed everything that came with this software package, but still no luck. When i plug in a Midi to USB interface, it works fine, but not so with the creative front pannel. So i'm going to take a look on the soundcard to get its "hardware id number" so that i can write an email to the creative support. I just can't find any other threads where x-fi elite pro users are able to record midi via the front pannel on vista 64.
I was soooo in love with this soundcard as long as?i used windows xp. It was a perfect solution to combine gaming with music recording (i used different soundcards for both issues before, but it was just not so comfortable than just using one card for both) But then i finally was brave enough to get a windows vista and there it goes -.- nothing but trouble and wasting time and money since then....(new mainboard, new midi interface, tried dozens of different modified drivers to fix the crackling sound issue that come up with nforce mainboards and so on...) If i wouldn't need all of my 4 GB ram,?i would get back to?my good old?windows XP 32 bit version.
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