570 GTX Twin Frozr II OC - Ok to flash non OC bios?

Hi there,
For stability purposes, is it safe to flash the reference non overclock edition bios for these Twin Frozr II OCs?
I'm sick of having to use MSI Afterburner to slightly lower clocks and if I RMA the cards, they will just run benchmarks and Unigine... deem them fine and send them back.
The problems I have experienced are limited to certain DX11 games and lowering the clocks a bit seems to fix the issue.
I don't mind sacrificing 5 fps if it means stability. I've got SLI so it's not a big deal.

Deus Ex HR ...crashes
BF3 ...crashes
Skyrim ...crash to desktop without error
Lowering the clocks makes the system more stable and I don't want to use a softmod in Windows, rather not use Afterburner tbh.
Why I want to know if using the regular Twin Frozr II bios (non OC edition) would be ok.

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Been noticing lately that i've come across a nasty 280.26 Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding issue with my 570 SLI.
Some people running the 280.26 drivers have also reported, while others have said increasing voltage has fixed their problem.
Could I get some support in finding out how/what to set my voltages too?
The cards are 570 GTX Twin Frozr II OCs. I did get a bios update earlier in the year after some problems, they were clocked at the wrong speed. (786mh instead of 750mhz)
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Is there a newer one?
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Quote from: Arthur Hucksake on 02-September-11, 18:12:57
You say the voltage range is upto 1.25mv , but how can a game be unstable but not make use of the 1.25mV barrier? Who is responsible for using the extra voltage when required?
People state they are increasing their mV to make some DX 11 games stable, but how?
If what your telling me, is that the cards are already set to use an increased voltage, why aren't they doing so?
As you can see, under load.... the higher mV range isn't used so the overclocks on the cards are pointless. The more games which come out that use DX11, the more problems you will get.
If it's down to drivers, someone needs to get onto nVidia from a corporate or business level because they won't respond to the end user, they just blame you guys for everything.
Quote from: Arthur Hucksake on 02-September-11, 18:12:57
You say the voltage range is upto 1.25mv , but how can a game be unstable but not make use of the 1.25mV barrier? Who is responsible for using the extra voltage when required?
Read again my replies, seems you misread most of the parts
Quote from: Arthur Hucksake on 02-September-11, 21:09:00
To add to that, I have to set the voltage to 1.00mv in Afterburner and to get Deus Ex HR more stable with the 280.26 drivers.
So what gives? Is it safe to update the bios to 1.00mv somehow?
Why are these problems only getting found out with the 280.26 drivers?
Where does the customer stand here? There's a direct problem with power handling by all parties involved.
Quote from: Arthur Hucksake on 02-September-11, 21:09:00
To add to that, I have to set the voltage to 1.00mv in Afterburner and to get Deus Ex HR more stable with the 280.26 drivers.
So what gives? Is it safe to update the bios to 1.00mv somehow?
Yes it is, you can use my Tool in signature to do this

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So today, I was tweaking a config file for Rage as everyone knows that game has pathetic graphic options, and I noticed I started getting some weird visual artifacts. I know this game hasn't had the smoothest launch so I thought maybe it was only the game. Now all my games are doing it. I've just tested it League of Legends and Hard Reset and the same thing is happening. These games were working perfect yesterday (And all week).
I was running the new Nvidia 285.38 beta drivers, so I thought maybe it was a driver issue so I back-rolled to the 280.26 drivers and still the same thing. I know the latter driver is stable as I was using it fine before I upgraded to the beta drivers.
I've attached screenshots below on what I am experiencing.
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/542907315034022324/9CBD18E3FABD467364E7665BA44668585FC0C912/
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7882/leagueoflegends20111007.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9748/hardreset20111007164732.jpg
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Oh and I have to mention, this is beyond frustrating. I just had my first Twin Frozr II replaced with this one on Tuesday because of a faulty fan, and now this one isn't looking too good either. I'm seriously not going to be happy if I have to wait 2 weeks again to replace this card, considering I don't have a spare card to use and my motherboard doesn't have onboard video which will render my PC unusable again for 2 weeks if this card is faulty (Possible FORCING me to buy another GPU to use in the mean time). I can't say I'm too impressed with MSI's quality control so far (Unless I just have some serious bad luck) and this might have turned me off their products for good.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Quote from: Svet on 07-October-11, 20:30:00
Yes, flashing to the latest VBIOS can improve VGA stability is you have stability issues.
You can read more about it at: https://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/msi-nvidia-graphics-cards-from-570-580-series-read-here
What utility do I need to flash the VBIOS? And how do I even check what VBIOS I have? Maybe I have the latest version already.
It says
"Users who download BIOS from here (not using Live Update) should use the flash utility included in the downloaded compressed file when doing the BIOS update. To avoid BIOS update failure, please do not use older versions of the update utility or utilities not provided by MSI."
But there is no utility included in NV225MS.222, just the actual NV225MS.222 file?
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Hello everyone,
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Quote from: Wodian on 13-May-11, 03:16:50
yes i am logged in with admin rights not sure why its exiting.
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on info1 i see the info pop up but like i said it exits to fast for some reason
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Quote from: Svet on 13-May-11, 02:52:47
run an "cmd", then goto extracted folder then type:
nvflash.exe -v [ENTER]
you will able to see it.
Other way is get GPU-Z ==> http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2018/TechPowerUp%20GPU-Z%20v0.5.4.html
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Click on the icon:
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then upload it somewhere like http://www.mediafire.com/ and give the link to it

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========== GPU's Core and Memory Speed Information ==========
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Quote from: mikedowen on 29-July-11, 00:14:06
Hi
Just thought that I would just say "thank you" for your assistance / comments. It is appreciated.
I did in the end purchase the MSI 580 GTX OC Twin Frozr and all would appear to be fine (2 hours of looping 3Dmark11 should = fully stable I hope). I was just a bit windy having gone through the hassle of purchasing one make of card and having to return it.
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Hi guys,
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cheers!

Quote from: mejinuf on 19-September-11, 02:11:43
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N210-MD1G-D3.html there you go.
145*84*18 mm [n210]
vs
243*115*42mm [n570 power edition]
heigh marked with red
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i have the geforce n210 which is 2 cm away from touching the cpu cooler (Noctua NH-D14)
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A normal CPU cooler should be not such large to enter and spread above the video card personal space....

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Its a Corsair 750TX V2 (750 watt). I am also running 1 SSD, 2 hard drives and a blue-ray optical drive. You don't think its too much for the PSU do you?
The PSU its plenty enough
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