5800: a music player that remembers where it stopp...

Hi,
I had many reasons to buy the 5800 but one of them was the music player. I listen to it in the gym using BT headphones. Frankly I'm amazed I never see anyone else with BT headphones but that's a different topic. Best music technology ever
The problem is that despite this being an Xpressmusic device the music player is a bit marginal, IMO. The thing I miss most compared to regular mp3 players is the capability to remember where it was stopped the last time. You're listening to a playlist and you turn of the player when you go home. Next time you turn on the player you want it to pick up where it was and continue with the same song in the same location in the same playlist. You could say you could remember where you stopped but that's silly. What if you had a long podcast or audio book? Wouldn't it make sense to continue where you stopped?
I realize I can pause the player and keep it running in the background but that means I can't power of my phone, right?
I've looked at two alternative players and they don't seem to support this most basic feature either. Why? Doesn't anyone take phones seriously as mp3 replacements?
I hope Nokia reads this and considers sneaking in this minor feature in the next 5800 update or as an Ovi download.
Thanks for reading!
Sander
PS pretty impressed with the phone overall!

Well, technically speaking, exiting the music player would still remember what the song was last, but not turning the phone off. I dont think any application can do this as it would require to have the internal extra battery (CMOS battery I think) to continuously supply power to the phone's processor, which it does not.
Also, as a smartphone, it consumes too much battery in powering up and powering down that it is really not advisable to turn it on and off in the first place, and in fact I dont see any situation where you should do that. If a place requires that phones are turned off, you can just set it to Offline Mode, which makes it so that the phone cannot receive any signal.
EDIT: sorry made a mistake in wording. The CMOS battery does supply a little power to the phone while it's turned off. Just remembered that it does this for the clock. LOL. But then again, making an app to make use of this power to remember where it stopped may depend on how much power is being supplied in the first place.
Oh I made a mistake again. I thought you were referring to turning the phone off. Not just the music player.
Also, I'm not sure if you already know this, but for a playlist to remember where you last stopped, it does that. When you go into music player. go to Options>Now Playing. It will show the last song played.
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2. Downgrade is not possible without a heavy risk of bricking the phone.
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