5D3 min. shutter speed hidden feature / bug

The ISO speed settings - Min. Shutter speed setting allows setting the shutter speed automatically based on focal length of the lens or manually to a certain value.
The on screen help indicates this setting only affects photo mode.
But when shooting video the camera will still use this setting to determine shutter speed.
This feature can be used to slow down shutter speed when using a long lens (on a tripod)
The hidden feature thus is to go back to photo mode and modify the setting to either get a shutter speed in video mode that corresponds to the focal length or equal to e.g. 1/60, which allows for a lower iso value.
The issue being this feature is very usable in video mode, but the camera hides this setting when in video mode, as it assumes this shouldn't affect video.
It would be great if this menu item could be enabled in video mode too for a future firmware release.
From wishlist point of view I think it would be great if the minimum shutter speed could be set to automatically slow down shutter speed when a lens with Image Stabilization in mode on are being used. A setting that allows to drop shutter speed by 1/2 or 1/4 with IS activated can be handheld and nicely interact with Auto ISO.
Regards,

Your wish is already discussed here:
http://forums.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS/5D3-Firmware-Hiccups-2-No-IS-Image-Stabilizer-support/m-p/13759#U...
my 2c & HTH,
John Th.

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I am thinking of an upgrade and these days I've read and watched some reviews, pro and cons, etc about Canon products and specially the battle between 5D Mk2 vs.6D.
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canonuser78 wrote:
I really found this as a joke because my old 350D have 1/4000 max shutter speed and on the other hand 7D and even 60Da, 60D (all these below a full frame camera) have higher value (1/8000 max shutter speed).
... you cannot compare the 6d to aps-c because the larger full-frame shutter has to move a larger distance, that's also the reason why the cheaper 60d and so on have 1/250s x-sync and even the 5d3 only has 1/200s (1dx 1/250s, though that is an embarrassment because the competition is better and the original 1d managed 1/500 x-sync and 1/16000 shutter).
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ebiggs1 wrote:
I noticed the same thing when I used to have and use a 5D, 5D Mk II and my 7D. But since I went all 1 series I have not had it happen since. I still believe it is the knobs moving, rubbing, or something else moving them.
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