5diii in camera white balance

I shot (as a guest) at a wedding this past weekend and was playing around with some of the in-camera custom white balance to get around the lovely green and magenta lighting at the reception.
Aperture's processing of these RAW files is COMPLETELY borked. It's not even close.
Here's the embedded preview Aperture was using:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/506024/aperture/preview.png
Here's the Aperture rendered file:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/506024/aperture/rendered.png
Here's DPP's render:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/506024/aperture/dpp.png
Finally, here's the original:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/506024/aperture/330C0579.CR2
Lightroom renders similar to the other pictures in the set where I wasn't using the in-camera settings...

Bizarre is a good word!
I have tested your original in both Aperture 3.2.4 (in Snow Leopard) and Aperture 3.3.1 (in Lion), and also in Preview, Photoshop CS5 and Graphic Converter.
In 3.2.4 it is a challenge to know where to begin. In 3.3.1, and choosing Temperature & Tint option in White Balance rather than Skin or Gray, the starting image is very much the same as that in PS CS5, while with Skin or Gray, the result is equally bizarre to that in 3.2.4, and also in Preview. Graphic Converter, which is not really a RAW converter looked a lot like Preview.
When I look at the EXIF (btw the original is a different shot than the other image links) I note that ISO is 12800 (probably the top?) while shutter is 1 1/640th of a second. In orhter words what I would call extreme settings for this venue and available light.
Also, the High/Low shading is a totally different hot color than anything I have seen -- more orange than red.
What version of Aperture are you using?
Ernie

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I use the Aperture white balance adjustments frequently but unless there is a patch or white or grey I an use the dropper on, I find this particular situation seems to be right off the scale of what I can fix in Aperture. I end up with sliders at the extremes of the scales and no intuitive sense of what numbers to type in manually to try and get realistic colour - so I often end up discarding these photos even if the shot itself is something I'd like to use.
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Or if not, do you have any advice about how to adjust from this very bluey unrealistic colour of image?

Kirkby - thanks for the quick reply.
Didn't know you could drag inside a value field - that's helpful.
But being able to get different numbers on the slider isn't the root of my problem.
In a specific example I have two photos - one taken with white balance set to flash and the photo was with flash, where after a bit of tweaking to get the colour I want the temp slider is at 5000K (and tint 0). The second photo has my shooting error with interior lighting white balance but taken with flash. The two shots were taken from almost the same point of the same view (but different people in frame). The shot with the white balance error comes off camera horribly blue coloured. I can fiddle with the two sliders - I take temperature to 20000K and tint to 40 to do the best with it I can, and with those settings one of the two faces is approaching flesh colour but the wall behind the subjects (which is a light blue in reality) is now appearing light yellow in places. I just can't get a good looking colour effect no matter ow extreme the slider settings.
I may have phrased my question badly - as I totally agree you can't show a raw without a colour setting - so maybe I'm better asking to be able to use a different colour setting on the raw data rather than having to start with adjustments on top of my white balance mistake.
Given the two shots were in the same place against the same background and the same lighting (both with flash) it seems to me I ought to be able to get a similar colour effect on both and I just can't. To illustrate here are the two photos (the one on the left was shot with flash wb and in Aperture I'm viewing it with 5000K and 0 tint, the one on the right was shot with indoor wb and in Aperture I'm viewing it with 20000K and 40 tint and it looks terrible!)
https://www.box.com/shared/qle3t6ovyhrd1egez3vc

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I was using the converter for a few months and it was working fine. Now it will convert the files, but the color is really messed. I know it is not the white balance, because the same files convert fine to TIF files through Nikon's software. I am using this converter for Nikon d610 NEF files. Here's a sample DNG and the same image in TIF. Can anyone help? Thanks!

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So all these files are JPEGs?
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