600% Price increase for educational CLP customers. Anyone mad?

As many of you may know, Adobe killed maintenance contracts for CLP licensing on the first of the year. I work at a small college, and as part of the CLP program, we ordered licenses for Production Premium, as well as a 2-year maintenance contract for $150 per seat. For that $150, we get 2 years of upgrades for Production Premium, whenever they are released. That works out to $6.25 per month, per seat. It was because of this great pricing, we were able to get budget approval to use the Adobe suite of products for my Digital Media department. Adobe even sold us on this plan because it "allowed us predictability in our budgeting." Now, that is gone, and my department is really screwed as a result.
I've been going several rounds with Adobe on the phone, trying to get anyone to explain to me how they can justify yanking the rug out from the educational market by discontinuing our maintenance license. Whenever I ask for an alternative for our Production Premium maintenance contract for our college, they keep reading the same script about Creative Cloud for Teams. That sounds great, except for the price. It's $40 a month per seat for this service. We are currently paying $150 for two years of maintenance licensing, which works out to $6.25 per month per seat. When I tell them that we can't afford a 600% price increase, they keep reading the same line about Creative Cloud not being a single product, and that we get cloud storage, blah blah blah. No real explanation of why they are sticking us with a six-fold price hike. Are there any other educators out there who are as infuriated as me? For each student, over the course of their 4-year academic career, that's an extra $1600.

As per the other thread, the customer also has a Muse subscription and the renewal email he received with a price of £11.11 + VAT was for this subscription not the Photography Plan.
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Bev

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Anyone else hearing anything about this by email (my subscription renews in December so too early for me as yet)? Adobe don't seem to making much public and there's nothing on their main UK site that I can see. I appreciate that Adobe were never going to keep the price at the same rate forever, but bumping it up by 21% or so in little over a year - whilst apparently not doing so for US customers? - is likely going to lose a lot of that goodwill they recovered pretty quickly. And being secretive about it isn't going to help either.
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As per the other thread, the customer also has a Muse subscription and the renewal email he received with a price of £11.11 + VAT was for this subscription not the Photography Plan.
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I should have wrote, "I am better off, purchasing the Creative Suite 6 Design & Web Premium at $1899.00 and upgrading every 2 years at a cost of $375."
So....
Let's do some basic arithmatic
CC Suite is $49.99 x 12 = $599.98 per year || $1199.76 / 2 years || $1799.74 / 3 years || $2399.72 / 4 years || $2999.70 / 5 years || $3599.68
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My graph clearly illustrates this... hopefully I don't annoy the Adobe people with this... not my intention.
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I own CS6 and am happy with it. I have been a PS user since the second version so I have extensive experience with updates and the value I seek. I am an advanced amateur so this is a hobby, not a profit source and Adobe needs to consider us. No one wants to buy a product that can continue to increase in price indefinetly after they already own one or can find substitues. The curret offer is more expensive than upgrading every other time (or when there is a great new feature ) as I normally do. Taking into consideration that the current base pricing for new contracts for PS CC is $20 per month forever it is much more expensive and rise to even more unreasonable heights.
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Noel you make somevery good points.
We never knew what the price of the next upgrade for the perpeual license was to be but if we did not upgrade our cameras then we had perfectly working software, Adobe of course tried to force the issue when issuing new versions of Raw (and excluding previous versions of PS) to many people's annoyance.But that is the Adobe we know....
They could certainly commit to freezing the price as much as we could commit not to buy in on CC or in past not to buy into an upgrade if the new features were not that great. They needed to delight us into giving them our cash.Sadly I don't think they have realloy ever felt that way and although they have innovated within the program and its interface are strating to show it's years (it is more like Windows than any cool app) and DSLR photography is headed in the same direction as Kodak. I am a skilled user and recomend it to anyone wanting to improve their work but I love it enough to konw its limitations.
We can cancel as you siggest but we are left with nothing with CC. I still own and can use PS6 if I don't like their new deal which is worse for them than getting a steady stream of tens for a known timeframe. It is one way of looking at it and maybe not their cup of tea but I think they should consider it.
Not many people take the time to master PS and among the kids I know not many think they need to go past their phone and a coulple of apps. Maybe we are all heading in that direction.

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Good luck with the options team - i tried them today and they wouldn't budge. There's a lower price for new customers and a higher price for exisiting.
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Well, Adobe is off to monopoly pricing.
I got an offer to suspiciously save in the new year. I could save "$30 a month".
This was off the new price for Creative cloud: Raised to $69.99 per month for this new year!
That is _$20_ more than the previous year, regular prices both.
It's slightly better if you do the bait and switch for previous customers.
However, 40% increase in only the second year of this CC program is an amazing display of offshore-orientated management.
Completely unfair, and in a special way idiotic, don;t you think?

Looks like the "for teams" plan is pretty terrible then. If it costs more than the individual license plan paid monthly, that sucks.
I'm not sure what kind of programs you are looking at on the mac as alternatives to adobe, but I know I am very concerned about the next couple of years when pricing doesn't look like it will expand to include sensible solutions for small businesses and small business contractors.
There does appear to be a very 'now-centric' thinking on the CC pricing that simply does not mesh with the thinking of users. It might be justifiable for some big businesses where financial decisions are made by people with budgets and little knowledge of how Adobe Anything works, but in circumstances where the paying decisions are made by the types of people who have spent countless hours studying and learning and in many cases planning for the future with the creation of a business, it's quite plainly a bad financial proposition.
The payment plan for Photoshop and LR are pretty good at $9.99/month, but the primary attraction there is for PS hobbyists and stay-at-home mom's wanting to learn something useful.
There's no real option there for serious professionals either using a basic 2D suite (PS + AI + maybe one other) or a more advanced suite (like Production Premium).
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Profits for staff/wallstreet/ and price increase for us

Adobe Shares held up by The Equity insentive Plan
The plan is ubber cleaver to offer shares to the staff and reduce or eliminate any doubt form staff about the plan. Now as an investor your shares are now diluted by adding in 17.5 million at market price.
From Adobe Forums
Why is that the Adobe Staff is pushing so hard we all get on the cloud. Here ya go Swing over to Yahoo and see that The baord voted to reinstate the 2003 Equity Incentive plan.
Equity Incentive is stock options that incease the amount of shares to by 17.5 mil so at a 45 dollar a share price we are talking about 18x45 810 milion on stock. I think the employes should get paid well. For sure but as for the cloud it is a profit beast set up to get 2x or 3x more money out of you a year.
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/130412/adbe8-k.html
The plan with the cloud is to "Funnel" you into the free or promo price then the price goes up.
Adobe said its Creative Cloud exceeded 500,000 paid individual members and free and trial memberships exceeded 2 million, which the company said could lead to more paid membership.
The company said it added about 153,000 net paid subscriptions during the first quarter and that it expects to reach 1.25 million paid subscriptions by the end of this year.
A Win Win for everyone the share holders see high earnings the staff see some stock options. The only looser is you the consumer. Sorry Adobe be truthfull with us without us you do not thrive!
upon reading this and the confrence call I had an AHAAA moment as to Why they cloud is the only option from the mouth of anyone working at ADOBE
Do yourselves a favor get off the cloud let Adobe come back down to earth. Watch the stock drop. Then upgrade as normal next year if you do there will an Adobe to buy from in ten years if not they may go away. If you own the stock sell ASAP the insiders are!
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=ADBE+Insider+Transactions
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