6309 lite & Tualatin CPU

I have been trying to get a MS-6309 LITE to work with a Celeron 1.1g CPU. It is a Tualatin core. I know it is not supported but I installed a Lin-Lin socket 370 adapter.
The system stops after showing me the sdram installed in #1 & #2 slots.
I have bios 3.7 on the board. I can't even get it to boot to the floppy. Is there a setting in Bios I am overlooking? Should I give up and get a board that supports Tualatin out of the box?
Any help is appreciated.

I think you should give up and get a board that supprt the cpu within the adaptor.

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