64/16/double bit Adjustment layers?

Hi, I have a 64 bit imported RAW, CR2. I have recently got in the habit of using multiple curves adjustment layers.
Indeed, when I apply a Curves adjustment by Ctrl-M, the histogram stays nice and smooth (as 16 bit implies), but if I use even two adjustment layers, stratification occurs- there is a reduced number of colours, resulting in zeros in the histogram followed by instant peaks.
Is there a way to enable high bitdepth adjustment layers? I used to have CC, and I think I noticed that it wasn't even fixed there... I went back to CS6, thought I'd save my money...

Perhaps someone helpful can answer it. By the way, your display picture is crooked.
(I mean all due respect, but after giving a 'get out of here' line, you demonstrated that you understood the question. Is that the kind of thing you get a + next to your name for around here?)
If you don't know the answer, just refrain from posting. In the interests of defending myself I will deconstruct your post:
Not sure what you are getting at. Even 16bit color space isn't unlimited (correct) and depending on how discrete values overlap/ coincide quantization can occur (correct). Only working in 32bit can further expand that range (to the point where most of the time it is imperceptible). That aside it's really not clear how you work and what adjustments you apply (sigh, nor is it relevant). You would have to provide screenshots (because you say so). Furthermore the histogram may not necessarily be an exact representation since it's calculated on the fly(interesting, but beside the point). Plus of course we really don't know anything about your RAW settings, color management, hardware acceleration settings and so on. This is really much more complex(no, and I should know, I have an Engineering degree, plus more than a decade of coding experience) than just saying that the histogram looks crooked. (nice analogy =) )
I've highlighted some words which people trip over online. It's good manners to assume that your readers are intelligent, so if you say something like "depending" you are basically conceding the point. As I noted, that sentence is correct. But (and this should have been obvious) I'm not talking about one of those 'extreme' cases.
Sorry for any offense. Maybe you were just having a bad day, or needed a coffee...

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I hope the above makes some sense to you all and that you can understand what I want to do.
I've briefly looked over the Adobe forum where many people have been trying to find unsuccessfully the answer to this question for many years. If anyone has some sort of workaround for this I would very much appreciate hearing from you.
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