648 Max "A" drive problems

I'm in the process of building my first computer from ground up. And when i go to boot the system up the coputer is looking for the disk to boot from. Consequently the A-drive is constantly running. I replace the drive twice same reults. I replaced the cables twice the same result. The drive looks like it is constantly running. When I leave the power cable connected and remove the data cable from the motherboard socket the drive is off. Any ideas how to resolve this?

You are the master computer genius. I relooked athe the drive and it looks like the mufacturer put the connecter in the drive but the nothch for the cable to slide in as a guide was not cut out. the notch was cut out on top but not the bottom. When i cut the notch out on the bottom of the connecter and slid the cable in the drive worked normal. Thanks again for the help.

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