648 max and HT

alrighty guys, im building my own computer and decided to go with 648-max because my friend has one with radeon9700 pro and 0 problems, so i thoguht id follow his line. anyways, im going to get a P4 3.06 ghz processor with hyper-threading (HT) enabled on it. now i see on MSI's mainboard page there is 2 diff 648-max's, basically one with HT support and one without. now my question is, is the HT support on that board just part of a BIOS upgrade or part of the hardware? i found 648-max's for like 80$ at places liek newegg but i cant find 0 places that specifically state it enables HT in the specs. is this new 648-max, the one with HT, replacing the older? or is it a completely separate board? if it is a different board, could someone please link me to a site selling one, i would like to check it out, thanks you much
-Brian

I have just purchased a 845PE Max with Hyper-Threading ready written all over it. It even has the label stating " Intel 845PE Hyper-Threading Technology" Well guess what? Even though my CPU (P4 2.4Ghz B), and my motherboard 845PE MAX both support Hyper-Threading you still need the BIOS that supports the Hyper-Threading. The BIOS does not come with the option to enable Hyper-Threading.The board comes with the latest BIOS update. I have written to MSI requesting the correct BIOS. I guess it's the luck of the draw? Good luck with your board!

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Thanks for replying .
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You can try going back through the earlier posts. I know there were quite a few dealing with the Radeon9700 and the 648Max. I don't have the Radeon so I can't help much if the problem is really related to that card. One thing you might check right off are the voltage readings in the BIOS. I know you need a pretty good power supply with that combination of motherboard and graphics card. I also know that there were some other issues as well.

SiS 648 Max and Memory, still having pb

OK, I still can't use 3x512Mo of Corsair DDR 400 Mhz! I've tried all kind of settings in the bios, all kind os speed of ratio, it's always the same, it works perfectly with only one memory chip !
So my question is: what memory should I use to be sure that 2 or 3 chips will be OK ?
What if I use 3 x 512 Mo of SEC K4H560838C-TCB3 PC2700 DDR Ram ? They say it has been tested ... am I guarantee that will work normally ??
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Originally posted by EricUSA
I've tried all these combination, using only slot 1, or 2 , or 3, putting 2 chips, or 2. No way, it only works with 1 chip.
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Sound Problems with MSI 648 Max ( MS-6585 ) Board - Help !!!

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i have the MSI Mainboard: MSI 648 Max ( MS-6585 ) and when I put on the microphone i have a bad sound on my soundboxes like scratching or beeping.
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I have Win2000 with SP3.
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Error404,
I since you have a 648 Max and you posted in the Multimedia Forum, I moved the thread to PIV Motherboard Forum for you.
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while reading this review of sis 648 boards:
http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/20021204/sis648-10.html
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How typical of tom....
They ment SiS AGP 1.13.

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This is getting very intersting. This is the third subject
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CLIFF
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Hi,
Hmm, that is strange as i had an AOpen P4 board previously which busted and, it had the ALC650 sound processor onboard but the sound that came out of the front panel/headphones was really good. Anyway I like my MSI 648 Max L. This is not a major issue it was just something which I was kinda annoyed at as I do use my headphones quite a lot. Oh well. If any fixes are available please do keep me posted 8) . Thanks in advance.
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This is a nut I want to break!

I had the same pb with a MB 648 Max and Radeon 9700 pro, and upgrading the bios to version 1.4 solve the problem. I also download the latest version of catalyst drivers, with radeonator software, and everything (finally) work fine, without need to downclock the video card.
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It was probably myt thread...
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/e_service/forum/viewindex.php?threadid=6204&boardid=10&styleid=1
Have done some testing with both DDR333 and DDR400 and my results are in the thread.
Right no I'm using my DDR400 as DDR333, manually set to 167MHz, using DIMM1, and havn't seen any problems. I'll try the DIMM3 to see if I get any changes.
And by the way.. I tried setting my DDR400 manually to 200MHz and it wouldn't boot at all. After a lot of ugly language I finally got it back to the BIOS....after a reset of the CMOS.
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Have you tested the new 1.3 BIOS?

MSI FX5900 Ultra 256 MB and MSI 648 MAX

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Regards,
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Thanks for your help guys. Whilst I have not been able to pick up my new powersupply, I have removed the Q-Tec 400W and put my old 300W PSU back, and guess what?? My PC has not shutdown since.
This power supply lark is totally new to me, and it does seem that a good quality 300W PSU can be better than a average 400W. I have never looked at the 3.3, +5 and +12 before, just the total wattage. Well, you do live and learn. Though it would have been nice if MSI put information like this in the manual of the card, or the WEB FAQ's.
I shall pick up my new 520W PSU on Saturday. Then I can put this new 5900 Ultra through its paces!!
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Macross.

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Its a good idea, but the RAM that I use is the same thats worked fine in the computer earlier. Its DDR DIMM 3100 TwinMOS, and thats a good stuff if I know it right?.
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I take it you're seeing this with the AGPUtil? I have found the same results with my mobo, but (and this is a but) I think it's just reading the info wrong. ATI SmartGart lists AGP 8x and Fastwrites working, while agputil does not.
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