648 Max dead board???

Hello,
I just purchased a "new" 648 Max board on Ebay. I installed a new P4 2.4Ghz CPU, Pony 256Mb DDR-2700, Radeon 7000 and 175WD HD. From the D-Bracket leds, it appears the board will not get past the second POST test (Early Chipset Initialization per the manual ?( ).
To debug the problem I have removed the video card and disconnected the IDE and floppy cables. In addition, reset the CMOS(with power unplugged). Any ideas what the "early chipset initalization" failure really means?
I have contacted the Ebay seller but they are saying change the RAM, power supply and processor. Since the POST passed the CPU check but failed before the RAM check I do not beleive the processor or power supply are defective. Any thoughts on this problem? Is the board dead????
Thanks,
John

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Originally posted by Assaf
Make sure you don't have any of the brass stand offs under the board in places they shouldn't be. If the board is being shorted out it can cause these things.
If you have another memory stick to test with that would be very good.
CPUs almost never die so that's pretty unlikely.
Thank you for the rapid feedback. The MSI board fit perfectly in the new compusa case with new compusa 450w precison power supply. The 6 brass standoffs were securely tightened to case with the 6 screws holding the MB in place. I assume there were no plastic spacers needed to isolate the MB from the chassis? I did purchase additional memory. In addition, I will measure the voltage on each of the power supply pins.

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