648 max, Win98 NDIS.vdx driver prob?

Just installed Win98 on my new 648 Max.
It installed ok, but on statup it says error: NDIS problem
(forget the exact wording), you must restart computer.
I bypassed NDIS.vdx with safe mode step by step
start, and removed Dial up Network in control panel,
as seems this is what uses this driver.
It now boots up OK , but of course no dial up network!
I have the onboard LAN disabled.
Any Ideas

It's probobly the same as this one.

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I've got a 845pe max 2 fisr mobo
My floppy drives' LED is continuously illuminated when I turn on.
Windows 98se says it's an NEC floppy drive even though I didn't insert any drivers for it or anything. When I put a floppy disk in to it the drive can't read and a message in windows indicates that there is no disk inserted.
The thing is the drive worked when I first set up my system but that is the one and only time. I suppose it's a positive thing that the LED works.
Any ideas anyone?

Don't worry, it won't hurt your motherboard. It definitely sounds like that's the problem (floppy cabble upside down). Simply spin it around, and it should fix your problem (the "key" as you put it is facing down on my floppy drive).
If that doesn't fix the problem, try using a different cable.

[SIS Series] SIS 648 Max-L MS-6585 mobo probs. please help.

I have been having tons of issues with this mobo. First off when playing a simple game such as starcraft, it will either restart randomly, or perform an illegal operation. It has massive probs playing any games more complex than that, which is sad. I also had alot of problems with installation of win xp pro. some files failed to copy. Install finally worked but after many tries. some help would be great. thanks.
it had a 2.0ghz 400mhz fsb intel celeron processor but was changed out with a 2.26ghz p4 proc
so heres the specs on this computer
power supply
tigerpro 350 watts
vid card
Abit siluro gf4mx-se
hard drive
80gb western digital wd800
Hitachi 8x dvd rom drive
generic firewire card
s-braket installed
d-braket installed
2.26ghz 533fsb 512k l2 pentium 4 proc w/ stock heatsink+fan
memory
spectek select 512mb which worked in 2 other systems flawlessly
OS
presently a dual boot system with win xp pro and suse linux
oringinally had just winxp pro and had same issues as stated before

see i dont kno. its a 350w psu, and it seems almost as if the ram bank is bad, ie the slot where the ddr mem goes. i change it to a diff bank and it works. starts up fine. but the next restart, will not run. see this is what happens.
1 turn on the computer. it will just sit there with no cmos/post beep and no bios for the mobo or vid card appears on screen. hdd and dvd rom get power as well as the fans
2 the d-bracket 4 leds read all green, signifying that the cpu or heatsink is bad or not installed properly.
sometimes ill release the tension on the heatsink and move it around(the heatsink) then turn it on with the tension loose, and seems to do better like that. plus it will boot. also, another time and pretty much every time since my first post, it seems to start up all the devices, but no boot. I initially thought it was the cpu so i changed that out with another that was known good. then it worked marvelously, but after another restart, refused to start at all. Then after reading the other moderators post i realized it could be the ram. I had the same issue with this board before, before it was RMAed mind you, where it wouldnt work, so i moved the ram to a diff slot and it worked. same case with this new mobo. it started up fine. then same prob arose, but this time, no matter what would not start until i put the new kingston ram in. then i ran that memtest prog. finished, got to 100%, and kept counting, but couldnt stop it or reboot from the menu, so i hit the reset button, prolly not the best idea, but i didnt have a choice. im not quite sure if the ram passed or not, but immediatly after gave me tons of probs. boots runs Suse linux, but wont run windows. As soon as it loads it instantly restarts. this happend even in safe mode. this mobo was originally in the computer i have now, and i think its the same wattage and amperage as the one in the msi mobo case. the reason y i dont see it being the psu is bc im currently runnin a 3.0ghz p4 1 sata 2 eide ok vid card a dvdburner and a cdrw. alot more than this system, but never gave me any probs. but who knows i could be wrong. I appologize for the long post. but i am totally stumped on this one. but it just seems to me like this mobo series (648max-l) is just way buggy. i have had issues with this mobo from day one. as well as the one(exact model) before it. If i have to put anymore money into this mobo, it jsut isnt worth it to me anymore. i will prolly just buy a diff mobo all together. as always any help or suggestions are very much appreciated. once again i appologize for the lengthyness, but i hope this will aid you in your diagnostic. thanks again!

NVIDIA driver 1.13 for 648 max?

while reading this review of sis 648 boards:
http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/20021204/sis648-10.html
I came across nVIDIA driver 1.13 drivers which they appearently used in there testsetup for the chipset. What is this about? Is it some alternative to the sis drivers? Does anyone use it on a msi 648 max and is it any good?

How typical of tom....
They ment SiS AGP 1.13.

Can't update my AGP driver MSI 648 Max-L

Hello, I have the MSI 648 Max-L (SiS 648 motherboard).
When I try to update the SiS AGP driver from 1.13 to anything newer (the latest is 1.16a), nothing happens. The installer fails to run.
What seems to be wrong?
Specs:
WinXP SP1
MSI 648
512MB PC2700
Radeon 9700Pro
Thanks in advance!

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Originally posted by zardoz66
Hello, I have the MSI 648 Max-L (SiS 648 motherboard).
When I try to update the SiS AGP driver from 1.13 to anything newer (the latest is 1.16a), nothing happens. The installer fails to run.
What seems to be wrong?
Specs:
WinXP SP1
MSI 648
512MB PC2700
Radeon 9700Pro
Thanks in advance!
I'm having the same problem while trying to istall SiS AGP driver 1.15 but i have no previous versions installed though.

Degauss prob. w/MSI 648 Max pls help

PC spec. below.....message
Everytime I restart my monitor from Xp or when leaving the bios, my monitor does a degauss. And it gets very irritating X( when you fx. reinstall your PC from start.
The "light" on the monitor also goes from green-orange-green as if it had been shut down.
Have tried conn. the monitor to my other system, and here there are only degauss when i power my pc up.
Have also tried another MSI TD4200 as I have simular in my other PC. no effect at all...
A friend of mine got same PSU and Monitor and his system also degauss only when he power up the PC.
Have anybody ?? noticed a simular problem before, and if what's the "cure".....
To me it "smells" like a bios problems,,,,,,,,,but I be mighty happy to ANY other suggestions.
PC SPEC AS Follows
P4 2,4 533 w/box cooler
MSI 648 MAX
PSU VIP 450w w/an average power on 250w
2x256 Pc2700 Apacer
MSI GF4 TD4200 64mb
ASUS CD
Liteon CDR/W
WD 80gb JB 8mb cache
Monitor AOC 9KLR "new" version

Never the less it does........have tried the VGA card in another PC, and here there are no degaussing.....have also tried another VGA card,,,,,,,,,same deal mate! ?(
Problem is prob. related to the mobo power management......or the comb. of hardware........
I have tried changing every components exept CPU/Memory/Mobo with no changes..........
So to me i'm sorry to say it's looks like a faulty mobo or some mismatch in the bios settings.......... ;(
73/CT

MSI 648 Max and ipods? Prob's connecting.

Please can anyone help?
I have a MSI 648 Max board with on-board usb2 and have problems connecting to my 4G 20Gb iPod. I'm pretty sure it’s the USB connection that is the problem. Has anyone else had this? Can anyone suggest anything to help? This is my last port of call before I’ll have to folk out for a Firewire card which I really don’t want to do.
Thanks.

Thanks for replying .
I have used USB for a number of devices (Printed/Mouse/DigiCam) and have never had any noticeable problems. I’ve tried the disconnecting thing and it didn’t seem to have any effect.
I thought it might be something to do with iPod’s not liking on-board USB and decided to post a topic here to see if anyone else has had a similar problem. Doesn’t seem to be much talk of iPod’s though. I wondered if MSI knew of any problems.
I have been around a few iPod forums but not many people seem to be using on-board USB.
Keep the suggestions coming though. Thanks.

Fastest Compatable DDR RAM For 648 MAX?

I've been reading about all these problems people have been having concerning RAM/motherboard combinations, and have concluded that my RAM is what is causing my problems (XP/2000 installation difficulties, unrecognizable Gainward GF4 Ti4200 card, boot up problems). Right now, I have one Kingston Hyper X 512MB DDR434 RAM (which is going out the door soon) installed on my 648 MAX.
I originally thought the video card problem was BIOS related because the only thing recommended by XP was to update the BIOS (said motherboard does not support your video card's features; try updating your BIOS). I tried that through LiveUpdate, and it messed up somehow during the flash, so I tried to restore the original BIOS, but the system was very unstable after that. I'm about to send my motherboard back for an exchange. I just found out by reading some posts here that other people have been having the same problem with a similar RAM/video card setup.
Also, I'm having extreme difficulty installing Win2000. It installed the first time on a test HDD, but on my new one (WD 80GB 7200RPM ATA100), it wouldn't go in at all. ;( It went up to the final file copying part (after entering the serial number), and crashed. It kept doing that, so I gave up and moved on to XP. XP went in fine the first time, but it wouldn't reinstall after that, even with a reformatted drive. Other people are having similar problems, and said that once they swapped out their RAM, their problems were gone.
I'm just looking for the fastest compatible 512MB DDR RAM available for the 648. Thanks.

Heh, funny thing, I was messing around with some BIOS settings, and somehow got my computer to work this afternoon! 8o Reinstalled everything, and was having a good ol time! :D
Then, and even funnier thing happened. I went out this evening, and when I came back, the computer wouldn't work anymore! X( This thing is driving me nuts. I'm definitely gonna pick up either the Corsair or Winbond memory ASAP. Thanks for the replys everyone!
BTW, I've had the hard drive by itself with the jumperless setting from the beginning. Also, it always wants to be the primary drive, even when it's set to slave and attached at the slave connector on the IDE cable. ?( I know that isn't a problem right now cause I just have it by itself on the cable.

648 Max: HDD capacity only 2GB (should be 30 GB) in WinXP

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I have a problem that seems to be related to my new 648 Max motherboard. Windows XP doesn't recognise the full capacity of my HDD.
The HDD is about two years old (IBM Deskstar 75 GXP, 30.7 GB). Everything seems to be fine when i boot the computer. The motherboard BIOS recognises the HDD correctly. However, when installing Windows XP, the HDD capacity is limited to 2 GB.
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Anyone have any suggestions??

If you use A win98 startup disk and use FDISK how big does it say the disk is and are there any partitions on it ?

Setting my 648 Max-L to 8x agp

I have a 648 max-L. It says it supports agp 8x but I put in a geforce 5900xt 8x and when I check my dispay settings it says it's running on agp 4x. Can someone please tell me how I can set it to 8x.

its universal like most chipset drivers
auto in bios and that installed should be all thats needed
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/driver/dvr/spt_dvr_detail.php?UID=355&kind=1

Skipping sound on 648 Max

I just installed the 648 max board with a 2.4ghz cpu. When I play mp3's or CD's, using the onboard sound, the songs sound like they skip or stutter at random places. Usually happens if I might be moving the mouse, or minimizing, maximizing, opening or closing windows... stuff like that. Then I noticed it would "skip or stutter" even if I was not even making any mouse movements. So I disabled the onboard sound and installed a Sound Blaster Live. Still has the problem but only once in awhile, not as bad as with the onboard. I thought it was the PC Alert that was causing this, but it is not.
Anyone had this problem before? Or any suggestions?
Thanks!

While you're at it also try lower PCI latency timer settings (to keep bus hogs like RAID/IDE controllers in check). The reason for sound skips is that the audio controller has a very limited amout of on-board buffer RAM and therefore relies on constant audio data transfers over the PCI bus - and if something has a very long transfer in progress the bus will not free up in time. (The PCI latency timer defines, in PCI clock cycles, how long a device may lock the bus before giving it up)
Most often this has been a PCI VGA driver issue (where they make use of PCI bursting with very long transfer cycles - this gives them a bit of a performance boost, sacrificing all other users of the bus) - but nothing I've seen with AGP VGA cards...
/WernerJ

648 max maximum allowed hardisk space

Hi everyone,
I am looking to buy a new harddisk for my computer. I currently have a MSI 648 max mainboard with a 80gb maxtor ata133 harddisk.
I have looked everywhere and the manual, and there isn't any info on the maximum allowed storage space. I will probably be buying a 120gb ata133 maxtor harddisk.
Any ideas of the maximum allowed harddisk space?
thanks

hi kingfisher!
thank you very much. I am going to purchase the drive in the next few weeks, lets hope it all work out well.

Weird problem with my 648 MAX-L board

Hello friends:
I recently brought a 648 MAX-L board and had a weird
problem: every time when I power on the system, it
could not find my hard drive (Seagate 80G/7200 rpi).
But when I reboot, the hard drive is found and the system could then boot without problem. So the problem
is that I have to reboot one every time I'd start my
PC. This is weird. I suspect something is wrong with
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Help for SIS 648 MAX-L Startup Problem

I just bought an MSI-648MAX-L, a 2.4GHz cpu and a Jaton GeForce4 TI4200 card. Installed all of the above + PC2700 512 MB RAM and a WD 80GB hard drive, floppy and CD. Turn on the power and my screen flickers all four of the diagnostic leds light up green and then nothing. I hear the hard drive spinning and the CPU fan and video card fan but nothing else. Tried one other AGP video card and a PCI video card but nothing on the screen. Seems like the BIOS is not loading. So I turn the computer off and set the BIOS reset jumper. Turn it back on again and still nothing. Checked all the connections, the seating of the CPU and tried again, still nothing. Any idea what might be wrong?? I hope I don't have to buy another MotherBoard and also I hate the idea of removing my CPU once installed. ;(
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Kumar.

What kind of video card is it?
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What happens with radeon is since the mobo sets the agp automatically, and there is the 8x bug the system doesnt boot. But the card will work fine on machines that have 4x, In this case RMA the card to radeon and make sure to specifiy that you get a 1.3 rev.
Otherwise you stated you have tried other processors and memory that were "known" to be good.
DDR 400 or DDR 333 memory?

9700 Pro / SIS 648 MAX /Games Issues

Hi Everybody!
Everything seem to be find with my PC, but everytime I play a game, I'm sent back to the desktop eventuelly. I have a fresh Install PC with XP SP1, latest driver from ATI (Catalyst version 3.0) directx 9 install, BY the way my mobo is a SIS 648 MAX from MSI with the lastest AGP and IDE Drivers installed (for this motherboard of course) and I have the latest version of the bios. here the description of my Machine.
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SB Audigy
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Try stepping down (underclocking) your RAM tp run @ 266.. There is a huge issue that hasnt been addressed by MSI or ATI at this point. Its a latency issue.
It could be solved by ATI with a new driver that decreases the AGP latency or MSI could update a BIOS that could be flashed that allowed to reduce AGP slot latency manually.
Let me know if it helps you!

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