648 max won't POST

Guys, I have a 648 max and had it running fine but now I can't get any POST. I changed out the video card (I did find out I had a dead card) to a GF4 that works fine in my other box. The box comes up and doesn't beep. the DBracket show all 4 diagnostic lights green and doesn't change. I unplugged all the power, changed the clear CMOS jumper to clear position (2-3) and took the battery out. Left it over night and then it posted! Turned it off to plug in my hard drive and stuff and then I get the same thing - all four LEDs are green and no sign of POST. I have no devices or cables plugged in - just a P4 2.53G, 256 Kingston DDR333 and a GF4 card. I have tried to clear it many times but it will not even give me a beep. What up?!?!? Is it RMA time?

This is getting very intersting. This is the third subject
I've seen about the same problem (mine is down to
this same scenario) I've done everything you've done
and am having the same identical problem.
My PS is TTGI 320 (320 watt) - second one I've installed
just to make certain it wasn't a PS problem.
Do we have a "flaw" in a board ?
Hope not.
CLIFF
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Error404,
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Originally posted by zardoz66
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Originally posted by Assaf
Make sure you don't have any of the brass stand offs under the board in places they shouldn't be. If the board is being shorted out it can cause these things.
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Hmm, that is strange as i had an AOpen P4 board previously which busted and, it had the ALC650 sound processor onboard but the sound that came out of the front panel/headphones was really good. Anyway I like my MSI 648 Max L. This is not a major issue it was just something which I was kinda annoyed at as I do use my headphones quite a lot. Oh well. If any fixes are available please do keep me posted 8) . Thanks in advance.
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