648F Neo and Geforce FX 5200

Hi
Bought a new motherboard and cpu for my better half (648F Neo + celeron 2.4)
We tried to put in my old gfx card (MSI geforce FX5200) but the system keeps "freezing" as soon as we start any programs that demand just the smallest part og the gfx card the whole system stalls (cant move mouse ect). We have now put in at cheap Radeon card in the maschine (Radeon 9200SE) and weirdly enough it runs without any problems at all.
Could be really nice if we could get the FX 5200 card to work instead its alot easier to setup than the Radeon.
Can anyone help me here?
The psu is a brand new Codegen 300W and the ram is Kingston value.
//Mostly

Assuming that the FX5200 is healthy, I would have started with at new PSU
(Q-Tec and Codegan have a bad reputation with low amp on every line ).
A new PSU with your setup should at least be around 3,3v-25amp / 5v-30amp
and 12v- 17amp to be sure that not the source for other problems ( not only the VGA problem )
If you still want to try with your 300w codegan, then try som older or newer VGA driver and see if that make some differans.
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
and raise the mem.voltage in bios to 2.7v while you´re at it !!

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[IMG]http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9497/appleadcconnectorve2.jpg[/IMG]
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extracted from http://www.answers.com/topic/accelerated-graphics-port
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AGP cards are backward and forward compatible within limits. 1.5 V-only keyed cards will not go into 3.3 V slots and vice versa, though "Universal" slots exist which accept either type of card. AGP Pro cards (rarely used) will not fit into standard slots, but standard AGP cards will work in a Pro slot. Some newer cards like nVidia's GeForce 6-series or ATI's X800-series only have keys for 1.5 V to prevent them from installing in older mainboards without 1.5 V support. The graphic cores can only handle 0.8 V for AGP8x and 1.5 V for AGP4x and will be damaged by 3.3 V slots. Some of the last modern cards with 3.3 V support were the nVIDIA GeForce FX5000-series and the ATI Radeon 9500/9700/9800(R350) (but not 9600/9800(R360)).
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