655 Max FISR SATA & Video Card Troubles

Hi all
I put together my 655 Max FISR (non HT) based system 3 weeks ago and have had nothing but problems (this is the third PC I've built and it's the only one to have caused major problems). Initially the memory and video card were problematic, stopping me from installing Windows XP, but having read some of the other threads the poor old 655 seems to have lots of problems with various components.
My motherboard hated the Crucial Technology PC3200 512Mb memory (CT6464Z40B) I put in DIMM 1 and the MSI 5600U VTD-128 video card. Anyway suffice to say I solved the problems easily enough. I swapped the memory and the video card over with that in my MSI 645e Max U (the video card was a Connect 3D Radeon 7500 for info). The 645 runs beautifully with no problems whatsoever, unlike the 655!
I've now upgraded the Radeon 7500 to a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT which works really well. So if you are having problems with a card based on an nVidia chipset (which Win XP keeps saying has drivers that don't pass the compatability test) I'd try the ATI cards.
My main problem now is with the two Western Digital SATA drives I've got setup in a RAID 0 array.
Firstly I'm getting poor disk transfer rates (I used the SiSoftware Sandra utility to benchmark the file system, and got a really poor 23Mb/s). As an example Windows XP loads up in 1 minute 8 seconds from power on, unlike the 645 with a 80Gb Maxtor DiamondMax 9 which does it in 45 seconds - I was getting Windows up in 32 seconds after initial installation of XP!!! Now I know I've got PC2100 memory in this machine, but it seems to have got slower since I did a driver and Windows XP update (hope this isn't anything to do with the I've downloaded).
The second problem is a bit more serious, one of my Raptor drives keeps dropping off line when I run either the error checking or defragmentation tools in Windows. The computer shuts down and re-boots only to tell me there's been a problem (a drive has failed or disconnected) before asking for a boot floppy. Fortunately, if I delete then redefine the array I get the system up and running again, but it is annoying! Problem is, with the 655's reputation, I don't know whether I have a motherboard, cable or drive problem. A limited trouble shoot by swapping over the drives has ascertained which one the system alleges to keep failing, but I'm now stuck, short of trying new cables, or buying a SATA RAID controller and sticking it in the 645 to see if it is one of the drives that's at fault.
So any ideas on the drive situation?
Best regards

Apologies for being away for a while, been busy with work & sorting out a pair of bad Raptors drives! Thanks for the replies from Hellwolf_36 and simps.
I can now report that after I'd worked out that I'd got not one but two damaged 74Gb WD Raptor drive (one had a lot of bad sectors and the other would take over two hours instead of 20 minutes to format which is why I was getting that stop message) and I had replaced the memory with one stick of the Kingston KV400X64C25/512 DDR, my 655 is now working quite well. I haven't got round to checking if I've got the latest C-media driver installed though.
One thing I did do though was set up my Raptor drives as two independant arrays (C: & D:) rather than RAIDing them. This is because, I didn't want to stripe the drives just in case of another failure, plus I have more flexibility over storage space not mirroring the drives, unti lI can afford to by another hard drive or two. Anyway they're really fast in the first place.
For this motherboard I wouldn't bother with any other type of memory other than the KV400X64C25 as recommended on the MSI website, as it's quite fast and no hassle, (can't wait to get my second 512Mb so I can go back to dual channel!!) Only problem is that the price has gone up a little bit over the past couple of months.
So apart from this MoBo being particular about graphics cards and memory it's not too bad. My next challenges are too sort out the center/sub problem and network this baby.

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I am running into a small problem while upgrading a high end workstation at work and wondered if anyone was having the same problem, or could provide some advice. Here are the main specs.
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Very frustrating, I hope that I am just missing something small. I have a tech support email sent to MSI. Thanks in advance if you can help.
Arcteryx~

Andy2 / Wonkanoby,
I will try flipping the cable now and the bios. Only thing is that the cable and board both have the cable guide tab that normally prevents you from putting the cable on the wrong way. Unless I really forced it on without paying attention. I have to go to another office but thank you for your quick response. Hopefully it is that simple.
Whipsnade, yes I have tried two other floppys and one other cable with the same results. Hopefully I will have a postive post when I try Andy2 / Wonkanoby recommendations.
Thank you all for the quick response!

655 MAX-FISR SATA RAID PORT

(wonkanoby, can you use the force to help me on this one?)
Configuration:
MSI 655 Max FISR 6730 (non HT) MoBo
Antec True 400W
(2)Western Digital (10,000 rpm) Raptors
Intel P4 2.66ghz
MSI TI4800 8XAGP
Plextor 48/40/48 burner
MSI 52X CDROM
Problem:
The second SATA port is not working (ser2)
both drives have been tested and work fine. (ser1) shows the drives seperately in the array. (ser2) does not show either of the drives.
I have tried tons of different configurations, cleared CMOS, re-seated everything, disabled/re-enabled SATA in bios, still nothing.
???Does anyone have any ideas/tricks to get this (ser2) port working correctly so I can setup both harddrives???
Background:
I have already had to send back (MRA-NewEgg) this board one time because of a similar problem that I did not spend a lot of time troubleshooting. I know that a lot of people are having problems and that the SiS 655 sucks! :O This time I decided to troubleshoot and that it might be something small I was missing. No such luck. I do not feel like sending this back and losing another week of use on this workstation unless absolutely necessary. I do have this same board on a similar system with (2)SATA Seagate 7200 drives and it works great. I am really losing my respect for MSI though as I have never had a bad motherboard from other companies, and this is 2 in a row for MSI. I even tried this:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/e_service/forum/index.php?threadid=18931&boardid=10&sid=2ffcacaf0448de534331ac97aaa46912
with no luck.
Advice:
If I can't get this working and return, I really do not want to get another 655 board. I have not read up yet on the (Canterwood 875P Chipset) boards from MSI. Has there been similar issues / problems with SATA Raid as the 655 has? Im thinking of just paying the restocking fee with NewEgg and going with an Intel Canterwood board. Sure, the overclocking is not as good as other manufacturers, but this is a work machine so it won't be OC anyway. I would rather go with stability. Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
Arcteryx-

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Problems with 655-MAX FISR

I have an MSI 655-MAX FISR motherboard and I installed a Radeon 9000 128mb Pro on it. I play counter-strike alot and on my old pc, like 2 or 3 months before I built this one it started to skip and I got this motherboard and it skips on counter-strike too. I play for like 10-15 seconds then I freeze for like 5-10 then I play for like 10-15 seconds again and so on. I have tried a Radeon 9700 Pro 128mb and it does the same thing and I have also tried different ram and it does the same thing. What could be causing this problem? Is it the fact that this motherboard only works with Geforce cards ? Plz help me! Thanks.
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655-max Fisr

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I got some problems with my MSI 655-MAX FISR Motherboard. I play alot of Counter-Strike and when I play my comp freezes for about 5 seconds then I can move again for like 10-15 seconds then it freezes again for 5 seconds and so on. It does this over and over and frankly I don't know what the problem is. I have a Radeon 9000 128mb Pro and I tested a Radeon 9700 128mb Pro on it but it did the same thing. Could it be my memory or something???
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Someone please help me with this problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont forget now, Counter Strike is a Very Graphics Intensive 3D Game, And I am in NO way Knocking your Graphics Card But Understand that the Radeon 9000 is NOT Really Built For High Performance Gaming Card. You should Save up for a Higher Performance "Gaming GPU", I mean I have seen the All Powerful ATI-9700-Pro Advertized for $200.00US Dont Forget this Card was Over $400.00 1 Year AGO, and it is Just a Hair Bit Slower than the 9800-XT....Second, I think that You have answered your Own Question as Far as your Current RAM is Concerned, I mean I see where your 655-MAX Even Supports Up to PC-3200 (DDR-400MHZ) RAM >>> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/detail_spec/product_detail.asp?model=655_Max-FISR If you were to Get Even 512MB of some Either Corsair, or Kingston "Value Series" RAM, Your Bandwith would Increase by Leaps and Bounds .
Your Processor is Definitely Fast enough for Great Gaming, along with your MB. So if I were you, I would First Upgrade the RAM, and see where this Brings you, and you can Do this For about $100.00 Bucks. Then worry about updating Graphics Later, Especially if other than the Temporary "Lock-Ups" and resuming, You are Satisfied with the Overall Graphics Quality...............Sean REILLY875

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Video card troubles 8(

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Hey all,
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[edit]
btw... I'm new to RAID arrays, so I'm not sure if I'm doing this right. I put my two (identical) hdds one connected to ser1 and one connected to ser2, on the motherboard. is that how you are supposed to do it? they are WD Caviar SATA drives (120gb) btw. jumpers shouldn't be a problem, the WD web site says for a SATA drive, the jumpers are only for power settings, no master/slave things.
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My 655 Max-FISR motherboard has a Silicon Integrated Systems (SIS) chipset, Device Manager displays the following error message for my Tyan Tachyon G9700 Pro Video Card.
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[Conflicts/Sharing]
Resource Device
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I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB SiS Accelerated Graphics Port
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buenas wonkanoby
thanks for your reply. finally i made it work: its this freaky kingmax-ram....
i exchanged two of the kingmax modules by veritech modules and everything works fine now. instead i got problems now with an MSI 648Max-L Board from which i took the veritech memory......
so if anyone else reads this:
[size=15]IF YOU GOT AN MSI 655 MAX OR 648 MAX AND YOU WANNA USE TWO OR MORE MEMORY MODULES GET VERITECH DDR333/512MB (OR WHATEVER) BUT DEFINITELY NOT CRAPPY KINGMAX DDR333/512MB!!! [/SIZE]
cheers and enjoy :D

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