6950 Twin Frozr III/PE, Low FPS, Low GPU usage

I could use some help, I've tried everything I can think of and no luck so far so maybe someone here can help. I spent all weekend trying to fix it with no luck.
I am having issues with my MSI 6950 Twin Frozr III/Power Edition cards. When playing a games my GPU usage never seems to get above 50%. I've tried each card individually and in crossfire but it never seems to make a difference. My frame rates fluctuate between 70 and 20 FPS while the GPU load fluctuates between 30-50%. Crossfire or not the frame rates and GPU usage stays about the same, never using more than 60% of the GPU. I only recently began seeing issues but I don't remember exactly when it started.
Hardware tried:
MSI 6950 Twin Frozr III/Power Edition (not flashed to 6970)
AMD Phenom II x6 1090T @4.0GHz
MSI 890FXA-GD70
16GB Mushkin DDR3 1600
Mushkin SATA III SSD
NZXT HALE90 850W PSU
14x FN 120RB 120mm fans
Aquacomputer Airplex Radiator with built in D5 Pump
i7-2600K @4.6GHz
ASUS P8P67 Pro
16GB Corsair DDR3 1600
OCZ Vertex 3 SSD
SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W
Corsair H60
Things I've tried (tried with both cards individually and in crossfire with no change, and in both systems, and various combinations)
-Current Drivers 12.10
-Rolling drivers back to 11.11
-Beta 12.11 Drivers
-Set constant voltage in Afterburner (heard that was causing conflict problems between Afterburner and CCC)
-Tried switching the cards between my 1090T @4.0GHz and my i7-2600K @4.6GHz and no change (both CPUs stay at around 60-70% so I dont think thats the bottleneck)
-Set power tune to +20%
-Tried clean install of windows 7 and no change
-Checked both PSUs with tester and both check out fine (not sure if the load is too much for them though)
Games that I've tried (with issues):
-Borderlands 2
-Hawken
-Dishonord
-Skyrim
-Dirt 3
-Saints Row 3
-Need for Speed: Most Wanted (always been bad but doesn't seem to be made any worse like the others)
I'm getting very discouraged and really hoping my graphics cards aren't going bad (they are only a year old). Any help is greatly appreciated.

can you test either of the card in another PC?
have you tried to turn off the vsync?

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Except for problems with the ССС, graphics card behaves quite adequately.
To my letter to AMD told me that I did not reference card and I need to communicate with the manufacturer. Cards from Asus, Sapphire on this system works without problems. I changed the driver 11.6-11.9, reinstalled Windows, it does not help.
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Sorry for the bad English.

I turned off the automatic fan control, set it at 80% to estimate the maximum noise also changed the Ai settings. In both cases, once the artifacts, in 2-3 seconds, the system hung. Drivers - catalist 11.9. On the disk driver is too old.

MOVED: Can I unlock 6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition to 6970 shaders?

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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=148995.0

Quote from: v1p3r on 25-May-11, 09:02:27
Hi,
I have purchased the MSI 6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition.
I was wondering if it can be unlocked to the 6970 shaders? Thanks.
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Can I unlock 6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition to 6970 shaders?

Hi,
I have purchased the MSI 6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition.
I was wondering if it can be unlocked to the 6970 shaders? Thanks.

Quote from: v1p3r on 25-May-11, 09:02:27
Hi,
I have purchased the MSI 6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition.
I was wondering if it can be unlocked to the 6970 shaders? Thanks.
OK, HERE IS THE SKIVY, THE MSI R6950 TWIN FROZER 3 PE OC 2GIG, DOES UNLOCK, I FLASHED THE CARD WITH SUPPLIED BIOS FROM MSI, R6950PEX.BIN IT UNLOCKS ALL, VOLTAGE CORE, OVERCLOCK, ETC. I DID NOT SEE ANY CHANGE HOWEVER IN THE SHADERS, MY GPU-Z IS THE UP TO DATE VERSION. SO NOT SURE IF THEY UNLOCK OR NOT. I ALSO PURPOSELY FLASHED A 6970 BIOS, ON THE CARD AS WELL // CRASHED IT. FLICKED THE **BIOS SWITCH** & BOOM IT BOOTS UP NO PROBLEM, IN WINDOWS, RUNNING, I SWITCHED IT BACK, & REFLASHED THE ORIGINAL BIOS OVER THE 6970 BIOS.....SO FAR EVERYTHING WORKS AWESOME // GREAT DESIGN HERE....THIS IS MY FIRST RADEON BASED CARD IN LIKE 15 YEARS // GONNA PLAY SOME MORE & I WILL REPOST WHEN I FIGURE OUT THE SHADERS.........MrStude2r5

6950 Twin FROZR III Fan blade BROKE!!!!Help!

when i was playing a game, i turned the fan to 80% fan speed and this happened :( the card is 1 week old and newegg can't help me...What can i do... if i leave the fan like this it will die because its unbalanced

Quote from: Svet on 20-April-11, 16:21:29
My advice is best RMA it as is, msi/reseller normally will not accept modified stuffs.
Also the FAN is a new special design introduced with Twin Frozr III Thermal Design called Propeller Blade fan. [images attached]
* MSI Propeller Blade technology generates 20% more airflow than traditional
design, and the airflow covers wider area for the better heat dissipation. Twin Frozr
III thermal design provides 11°C cooler & 13.9dB quieter than reference cooler .
20% More Airflow with Exclusive Propeller Blade Technology
The MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition is equipped with the latest Twin Frozr III dual fan thermal solution. The MSI-exclusive Propeller Blade technology features air channels on the edge of the blades to expand total airflow by up to 20%! The twin 8cm PWM fans, heat pipe technology, large surface-area nickel-plated copper base and high fin density all serve to rapidly draw excess heat away from the graphics card. Under a full load, the R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition GPU runs 11˚C cooler than the reference design, and noise emission is reduced by 13.9 dB— validating the superior cooling performance and silent running advantages of the Twin Frozr III.
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Quote from: Henry on 31-July-11, 05:13:04
Those temps are normal under a heavy load, nothing at all to worry about.
some people said i can lower the fan speed and just let the card run at 80C, so my last question is:
Is 80C under load an acceptable temperature to run this card at for let's say 4 non-stop gaming hours a day?
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Can anyone tell me if MSI is planning to release a Ati 7990 with an Twin Frozr III VGA card?
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Its a Corsair 750TX V2 (750 watt). I am also running 1 SSD, 2 hard drives and a blue-ray optical drive. You don't think its too much for the PSU do you?
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there is not much options then, except to RMA the card and to hope the problem to be there.
[else the problem will remain]

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The card is 2 years old, but how long wasn't it used for and did you ever had any problems with it?
First of all, I would reset CMOS >>Clear CMOS Guide<< so all the OC is removed (write down settings of CPU OC if you want to use it later on).
Then (I don't know Asus boards) would look through the BIOS if it recognises the card. Possible you should get rid of the possible dust in PCIe slot?
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